MD GPA 3.92 90-100% MCAT (let's assume 34-35) School List?

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White Male
Son of a physician
Midwest resident
cGPA: 3.92 - similar sGPA Just finished Junior year at a public U.

May 2015 MCAT:
Chem/Phys: 85-100%
CARS: 65-80%
Bio/Biochem: 85-100%
Psych/Soc: 81-96%
OVERALL: 90-100%
For sake of ease, let us assume I got about a 34-35 worth on this thing? I would love opinions with this in mind.

Extracurriculars: (Pretty much continuing all of them during cycle, but they are light...)
- 130 hours clinical volunteer (PCU and ER)
- CNA certification (no work experience)
- 65 hours Volunteer Tutor at my university
- 60 hours job shadowing many different areas
- *Running has been a big part of my life the last 8 years. Spend one semester competing in a D1 program (then school and lab took over...)
- Joining the Track Club at my university for some lighter competition this summer and next year.
- *Research...
Research:
Coming up on two years of research in a non-clinical lab on campus. So far one undergraduate poster presented and more to come. I work in here for credit anywhere from 10-25 hours a week (first semester vs summer days). I put in 850 estimated hours, but I feel like that was pretty conservative...

Awards/Honors:
- Deans list every semester
- National Merit Scholarship for 1st year of college
- 1 highly sought-after university-wide research scholarship (sorry for being vague)

Potential School List: (I keep adding schools - help me DELETE some?!)
Emory
Stanford
JHU
Case
Cincinnati
UCLA
UCSD
UMich
Vanderbilt
UNC Chapel Hill
Northwestern
Boston
NYU (How do I know if I want to live in NY if I've never been there...?)
Einstein
NYMC
Hofstra
Rochester
Baylor
Creighton
Drexel
Duke
Georgetown
Loyola
MCOW
U Wisconsin
Oregon
St. Louis
Thomas Jefferson
U Colorado
UFCM
U Illinois
U Iowa
U Minnesota
U Virginia
Vanderbilt
Virginia Commonwealth
Wake Forest
Wash U in St. Louis (*Keeping no matter what. Legacy here and other places, but even if it doesn't help I'm keeping it)

Would like to get out of the Midwest at some point in my life... I'd rather not stay in one spot for all of my life. I don't know that I would tolerate hot hot weather though; as a runner I prefer it cool. I have all of my college paid for, but I AM a little afraid of getting into 200K+ debt if I don't end up going into Dermatology or something crazy.

Hopefully someone could help me out and direct me here?

Thank you SDN, I owe you so much.
 
Too many low-tiers and non-OOS friendly schools...go through MSAR and delete any schools where you're over the 90th percentile stats-wise. Then you should have a good 25 schools
 
The Real SVB said:
Too many low-tiers and non-OOS friendly schools...go through MSAR and delete any schools where you're over the 90th percentile stats-wise. Then you should have a good 25 schools
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eternelle said:
I agree with taking off non-OOS friendly schools but I don't think you have too many low-tier schools overall. Especially since you do not have a concrete MCAT score and you're expecting your CARS score to be lower than the other sections. I'd play it safe if I were you.
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Additionally, I would recommend removing the UC schools (tough schools for even IS applicants), Stanford (your research isn't substantial enough), Drexel (too many apps and the worst of Philly triplets), and Georgetown (too many apps).
 
eternelle said:
I agree with taking off non-OOS friendly schools but I don't think you have too many low-tier schools overall. Especially since you do not have a concrete MCAT score and you're expecting your CARS score to be lower than the other sections. I'd play it safe if I were you.
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Why's a concrete MCAT score necessary? Those percentiles are good enough. People will be benchmarking percentiles anyway for the new MCAT
 
Hmm... Thanks for the responses! It looks like a lot of the OOS schools were for the state's awesome weather and landscapes. Would it be really bad to still hold onto Colorado? I'm also thinking of holding onto a few close OOS schools... Still deciding on deleting Stanford. Am I just going to get screened out? I did have an uncle attend that med school a while ago, but if there is no chance for me I will delete it...

Also any thoughts in general on the NY schools? I feel a little clueless on them and the city.

School List:

Emory
Stanford
JHU
Case
UCLA
UCSD
UMich
Vanderbilt
UNC Chapel Hill
Northwestern
NYU (How do I know if I want to live in NY if I've never been there...?)
Einstein
NYMC
Hofstra
Rochester
Baylor
Duke
Loyola
MCOW
U Wisconsin
Oregon
St. Louis
Thomas Jefferson
U Colorado
U Illinois
U Iowa
U Minnesota
Vanderbilt
Wake Forest
Wash U in St. Louis (*Keeping no matter what. Legacy here and other places, but even if it doesn't help I'm keeping it)

ADDED:
U Miami

Deleted:
XCincinnati
XCreighton
XDrexel
XGeorgetown
XUFCM
XU Virginia
XVirginia Commonwealth

Thanks again everyone! I'm almost excited to start pre-writing secondaries!
 
NYU is fine, NYMC not worth it. Loyola is low-yield for you, MCW as well. Overqualified for Hofstra/SLU maybe
 
Ohhh thanks for those catches guys. I don't know how I didn't see Loyola was so low-yield before. (I'm Midwest but not IL)
 
Hupsty said:
Ohhh thanks for those catches guys. I don't know how I didn't see Loyola was so low-yield before. (I'm Midwest but not IL)
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Any OOS place where you're hovering around the 80-90th percentile is likely to be low-yield for you, unless they are big public flagship schools (e.g., Mich, UVA, Wisconsin, etc.)
 
The Real SVB said:
Any OOS place where you're hovering around the 80-90th percentile is likely to be low-yield for you, unless they are big public flagship schools (e.g., Mich, UVA, Wisconsin, etc.)
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Can you explain why (this percentile)? Is it because they want more out of OOSers, or don't think they would actually attend if accepted?
 
Remove Stanford UCLA, UCSD, UNC, UFC, Oregon, Baylor and JHU to start. You aren't near competitive for WASHU.
I would hesitate to recommend applying to these schools with a 33ish MCAT and ECs that are on the lighter side: Vandy, Case Western, NYU, Duke, Michigan, Northwestern. Where exactly you are in the midwest from will dictate how smart it is to apply to Iowa, Wisconsin Cincinnati, Minnesota and Illinois but I certainly wouldn't apply to all 5 regardless of where you are from.

Emory, Boston U, Einstein, NYMC, Hofstra, Rochester, Creighton, Drexel, Loyola, MCW, St Louis, Jefferson, VCU and Wake Forest are all solid choices. Add any state schools and add a couple others like USC, Miami, Temple and Tulane to name a few and you'll have a solid list.
 
Why would Loyola be considered low-yield in this condition?
 
themoonman2 said:
Why would Loyola be considered low-yield in this condition?
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It's not. And schools that take less than 20% OOS usually aren't worth the application fee due to low yield. I don't agree with the above saying you are overqualified for some schools and hence should remove them. It's not worth applying to GW and Georgetown for example with a 3.9/33 because it's not worth bothering with a school that gets 14K apps in that situation. But for schools like Hofstra where the median MCAT is around the OP's no way are they overqualified.
 
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jih said:
Can you explain why (this percentile)? Is it because they want more out of OOSers, or don't think they would actually attend if accepted?
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If you're OOS and you have stats much higher than their median, there is real risk of being seen as a "safety school" unless you specifically articulate well why you're interested in that public school.
GrapesofRath said:
It's not. And schools that take less than 20% OOS usually aren't worth the application fee due to low yield. I don't agree with the above saying you are overqualified for some schools and hence should remove them. But for schools like Hofstra where the median MCAT is around the OP's no way are they overqualified.
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OP's MCAT is ≥34 according to those percentiles and assuming the score distribution stays around the same (no reason to suspect now that the distribution will be wildly different). Thus I stand by my statement that 3.9/35 for a new school like Hofstra is overqualified. Same goes for Loyola
 
The Real SVB said:
If you're OOS and you have stats much higher than their median, there is real risk of being seen as a "safety school" unless you specifically articulate well why you're interested in that public school.

OP's MCAT is ≥34 according to those percentiles and assuming the score distribution stays around the same (no reason to suspect now that the distribution will be wildly different). Thus I stand by my statement that 3.9/35 for a new school like Hofstra is overqualified. Same goes for Loyola
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Chem/Phys: 85-100%
CARS: 65-80%
Bio/Biochem: 85-100%
Psych/Soc: 81-96%
OVERALL: 90-100%

Those who are taken as OOS at state schools where the OOS% isn't particularly high as @Goro will often tell you NEED stats above the median of that school. Makes sense as those spots are fewer and more competitive. Being above the 90th percentile of a school's stats is when we start talking about schools screening out for high stats as @gyngyn has said in the past. Having a 35 when a school's median is a 33? That's not even close to being high enough to be screened out. Rather, that fits Goro's description of having to be better than the school's average to even consider applying. If there is an argument one might consider making maybe perhaps it would be that a 35 vs 33 might not high enough to warrant applying.

And speaking of those MCATs scores and saying its greater than 34 lets actually look at them. If the OP gets the middle of all these ranges, 92, 72, 82, 89------that's around the 84th percentile. That's not anywhere close to a 35. Now, there's a reason the overall is 90-100, but saying the OP got a 35(95th percentile) based off those ranges is just baseless speculation.

For the OP to get around 93.4% which would be a 34(and not greater) if we are making a rough estimate the Bio and Chem section would have to be around 99% and the Psych a 96% and the CARs 80%. Averaging all 4 of those would get about 93.5 percentile. Now, like I said this is a rough estimation, it's possible scores are calculated in a way that doesn't just average all 4 of these. ADCOMs can chime in on this. But based off this considering those ranges that the OP listed we're being very generous to assume that is what the OP's score will be. The most realistic estimation based off all this is the OP gets a 33, which is 91st percentile.

https://www.aamc.org/students/download/361080/data/combined13.pdf.pdf

Hofstras median MCAT is a 34 and average 33. Calling someone who has a 35 overqualified is not something I would say at all.

None of this discussion even accounts for EC's that if anything are on the lighter side for the OP. Bottom line from all this is someone with a 3.9/33 with EC's that wouldn't be considered a strength should not at all be worrying about being over-qualified for schools.
 
Okay I'll yield to your opinion on this one because you've obviously spent more time thinking about it than I have. OP – disregard what I said.
But yes, you are correct. I had not noticed that OP's ECs are pretty light.
 
So MCAT 2015 early test takers have an advantage in this cycle?
 
ciruji said:
So MCAT 2015 early test takers have an advantage in this cycle?
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? Those who took in May or June will not have their AMCAS delayed since their scores will be out and ready by the time transmission to schools begins on July 1. Anyone who has their app and score ready by then is on the same page. Anyone who took the MCAT later than that, in any year, is going to be delayed a little bit.
 
The Real SVB said:
? Those who took in May or June will not have their AMCAS delayed since their scores will be out and ready by the time transmission to schools begins on July 1. Anyone who has their app and score ready by then is on the same page. Anyone who took the MCAT later than that, in any year, is going to be delayed a little bit.
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I was referring to comparing old MCAT vs new MCAT. A lot of may test takers got a total MCAT score around 90-100th percentile which would translate to 33 in the old MCAT if is in the 90 for example. This can create disadvantage to old mcat applicants since the new MCAT scores will show percentile ranks that will show the percentage of test takers who received the same or lower score.
 
ciruji said:
This can create disadvantage to old mcat applicants since the new MCAT scores will show percentile ranks that will show the percentage of test takers who received the same or lower score.
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...no. Old MCAT percentiles are now also directly shown on the application, just like new MCAT percentiles. These percentiles were always around but never made their way onto the application. Now they are there alongside the score, complete with a "confidence band" as well.
 
Ya, again, I just wanted to make everything easier for everyone and assume I got 34-35. Arguing over how I came to that or if that is true is not worth the time on here. I appreciate the input and so far I now have ~25 schools.

I'm still working on cutting that down, but thanks for all the comments!
 
I am in the same boat, but I don't really have a desire to live o the East Coast, so that eliminates a lot of schools. I would remove the OOS publics like Minnesota, Oregon and Colorado (but keep Iowa since it has relatively high OOS acceptance rates) and I wouldn't put JHU, Stanford or the CA schools on the list unless you come back with a score around 516+.
 
Unless you are from MN or have strong ties to MN, you could probably eliminate it. MN heavily favors residents or strong ties (grandparents, parents, siblings live there, summers spent in northern MN on the lakes, volunteering on the NAI reservations, etc)
 
The Real SVB said:
If you're OOS and you have stats much higher than their median, there is real risk of being seen as a "safety school" unless you specifically articulate well why you're interested in that public school.

OP's MCAT is ≥34 according to those percentiles and assuming the score distribution stays around the same (no reason to suspect now that the distribution will be wildly different). Thus I stand by my statement that 3.9/35 for a new school like Hofstra is overqualified. Same goes for Loyola
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I would argue that being at the 90th percentile for a school is great. I had lots of success with a ~39 mcat (and 3.9 gpa) at many mid tier schools where I was >90%. Hofstra offered me an interview fwiw. There is a thing as being overqualified, but I'd peg that at around 8-10 pts above the median mcat score, which means OP is not overqualified for any MD school with a 34.
 
I suggest:

Emory
JHU
U AZ
U VM
Case
Cincinnati
Toledo
Boston
Einstein
Hofstra
Rochester
Creighton
Georgetown
Loyola
MCW
U Wisconsin
St. Louis
Thomas Jefferson
Virginia Commonwealth
Wake Forest
tulane
U Miami
Keck
Possibly these:
Pitt
Northwestern
Baylor
JHU
UCLA
Vandy
Columbia
NYU OR Sinai OR Cornell [Proceed with caution]
 
Goro said:
I suggest:

Emory
JHU
U AZ
U VM
Case
Cincinnati
Toledo
Boston
Einstein
Hofstra
Rochester
Creighton
Georgetown
Loyola
MCW
U Wisconsin
St. Louis
Thomas Jefferson
Virginia Commonwealth
Wake Forest
tulane
U Miami
Keck
Possibly these:
Pitt
Northwestern
Baylor
JHU
UCLA
Vandy
Columbia
NYU OR Sinai OR Cornell [Proceed with caution]
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Out of curiosity- why proceed with caution for the schools in bold? Because they're in-state friendly? Or simply because they're such competitive schools?
 
Yeah I may need to wait till June 30th. Will that delay me? Someone said schools will receive apps the 27th this year?! I thought it was July 1st...
 
Oh my gosh I didn't realize I wasn't in WAMC! Sorry guys and thanks!
 
Still on the fence about Cincinnai, Boston and U of Minnesota...

I just hope my MCAT is high enough and then I can take out a couple lower ones and keep it under 25?

Emory
Stanford
JHU
Case
UCLA
UCSD
UMich
Vanderbilt
Northwestern
Einstein
Hofstra
Rochester
Baylor
Duke
MCOW
U Wisconsin
St. Louis
Thomas Jefferson
U Minnesota
Wake Forest
Wash U in St. Louis *
Boston
Cincinnati
U Miami

Too many?
 
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Also a side question: I have a professor who I asked to write a LOR for me almost two months ago... He said he would do it quickly and it hasn't been uploaded. I emailed him once 3 weeks ago and the response was pretty much "I haven't sent it in yet, but will do so soon".

Any thoughts on how to politely remind him and ask for it to be done in the next 10 days? I DO need this particular letter for my application.

Thank you!
 
Your current list looks fine if your MCAT comes out to be 517+.
 
Hupsty said:
Still on the fence about Cincinnai, Boston and U of Minnesota...

I just hope my MCAT is high enough and then I can take out a couple lower ones and keep it under 25?

Emory
Stanford
JHU
Case
UCLA
UCSD
UMich
Vanderbilt
Northwestern
Einstein
Hofstra
Rochester
Baylor
Duke
MCOW
U Wisconsin
St. Louis
Thomas Jefferson
U Minnesota
Wake Forest
Wash U in St. Louis *
Boston
Cincinnati
U Miami

Too many?
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It's all MCAT dependent. And no if you are going to apply that top heavy it's not too many
 
Banco said:
Your current list looks fine if your MCAT comes out to be 517+.
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Thanks guys.

From what I have seen from other people my score could be anywhere from 512-518. It shouldn't be 512, but its possible it won't be that 516+ 95%ile+... Iwill look for some schools that I can quick swap when the time comes!
 
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GrapesofRath said:
Chem/Phys: 85-100%
CARS: 65-80%
Bio/Biochem: 85-100%
Psych/Soc: 81-96%
OVERALL: 90-100%

Those who are taken as OOS at state schools where the OOS% isn't particularly high as @Goro will often tell you NEED stats above the median of that school. Makes sense as those spots are fewer and more competitive. Being above the 90th percentile of a school's stats is when we start talking about schools screening out for high stats as @gyngyn has said in the past. Having a 35 when a school's median is a 33? That's not even close to being high enough to be screened out. Rather, that fits Goro's description of having to be better than the school's average to even consider applying. If there is an argument one might consider making maybe perhaps it would be that a 35 vs 33 might not high enough to warrant applying.

And speaking of those MCATs scores and saying its greater than 34 lets actually look at them. If the OP gets the middle of all these ranges, 92, 72, 82, 89------that's around the 84th percentile. That's not anywhere close to a 35. Now, there's a reason the overall is 90-100, but saying the OP got a 35(95th percentile) based off those ranges is just baseless speculation.
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Overall percentiles are not the average of the subset scores. They are usually much higher.

I took the old exam and scored 97% overall, but one of my subsections was a ~65%
 
Lancer said:
Overall percentiles are not the average of the subset scores. They are usually much higher.

I took the old exam and scored 97% overall, but one of my subsections was a ~65%
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It's within the realm of possibility. If you got a 36 overall(97th percentile) to get a 9(which is about 65th percentile) on one subsection and then to get 13/14 on the others would be just like you claimed. We'll just have to see but 13/14 are 98%+ percentile and that would require the OP to hit the top of their projected range on multiple subsections. Certainly alot to ask for. But this is all besides the point no use speculating when the OP has their official score they can adjust accordingly.
 
Lancer said:
Overall percentiles are not the average of the subset scores. They are usually much higher.

I took the old exam and scored 97% overall, but one of my subsections was a ~65%
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Yeah I agree with this, you can't simply average them and expect to get the final percentile; my overall percentile was also a bit higher than a couple of my subsections.
 
Just realized I've been writing UCLA, but I have been meaning Keck USCali. I think keck is better for OOS
 
Goro said:
All will depend upon MCAT scores.

They are indeed very competitive schools.
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If you're going to apply to one NYC school, you might as well apply to all 4, since you don't know which of them are going to bite, particularly if you're in the 35-37 MCAT range.

@Goro and I disagree a little bit on the strategy here (look at my previous posts from late April/early May if you want to see our conversation about the subject). I advise what I call "average top tier candidates" (such as yourself) to apply to many (like 15+) top schools and hope a couple shoot an II your way while Goro recommends a more targeted approach. I disagree with a targeted approach towards top schools for these applicants in particular because we really have no idea what they're looking for in this applicant pool. Anyways, it's up to you what you want to do.
 
Actually there are 7 NYC schools...the 4 kings in Manhattan, Einstein, SUNY DS and Touro-NY. Then just a little further outwards, you've got NYMC, NYITCOM, and SUNY-SB. A superfluity of med schools!

WedgeDawg said:
If you're going to apply to one NYC school, you might as well apply to all 4, since you don't know which of them are going to bite, particularly if you're in the 35-37 MCAT range.

@Goro and I disagree a little bit on the strategy here (look at my previous posts from late April/early May if you want to see our conversation about the subject). I advise what I call "average top tier candidates" (such as yourself) to apply to many (like 15+) top schools and hope a couple shoot an II your way while Goro recommends a more targeted approach. I disagree with a targeted approach towards top schools for these applicants in particular because we really have no idea what they're looking for in this applicant pool. Anyways, it's up to you what you want to do.
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Goro said:
Actually there are 7 NYC schools...the 4 kings in Manhattan, Einstein, SUNY DS and Touro-NY. Then just a little further outwards, you've got NYMC, NYITCOM, and SUNY-SB. A superfluity of med schools!
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I meant the 4 ultra selective Manhattan ones ones 😛

But good point
 
Goro said:
I consider that if one is applying to NYU, Sinai should also be on the list, but Cornell is a tad higher in median stats for matriculants than Columbia. Go figure.
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Interestingly, according to the newest MSAR, NYU, Cornell, and Sinai all have 37 medians (along with most of the non-UC schools ranked in the top 20), and all 4 have ~3.85 median GPAs. The 36 medians are Hopkins, Columbia, Pitt, and Duke (which fluctuates between 35 and 36), and then UWash has a 31 or 32 median (but it also has different circumstances).

I don't think you can make the argument that Sinai is more selective than Hopkins just based on a higher MCAT median (and similar c/sGPAs). They're both incredibly selective schools. I don't think the difference is significant. People are randomly rejected by NYU but get into Columbia (me) and vice versa. People are rejected by Sinai but get into Harvard and vice versa. People get into WashU but are rejected by Cornell.

Once you're at this ridiculous level of competition, differentiating between schools with 36 and 37 MCAT medians will not tell you anything (literally 97th vs 98th percentile), and saying that x top 20 is more difficult to get into than y top 20 is not really going to be verifiable or necessarily accurate.
 
WedgeDawg said:
Interestingly, according to the newest MSAR, NYU, Cornell, and Sinai all have 37 medians (along with most of the non-UC schools ranked in the top 20), and all 4 have ~3.85 median GPAs. The 36 medians are Hopkins, Columbia, Pitt, and Duke (which fluctuates between 35 and 36), and then UWash has a 31 or 32 median (but it also has different circumstances).

I don't think you can make the argument that Sinai is more selective than Hopkins just based on a higher MCAT median (and similar c/sGPAs). They're both incredibly selective schools. I don't think the difference is significant. People are randomly rejected by NYU but get into Columbia (me) and vice versa. People are rejected by Sinai but get into Harvard and vice versa. People get into WashU but are rejected by Cornell.

Once you're at this ridiculous level of competition, differentiating between schools with 36 and 37 MCAT medians will not tell you anything (literally 97th vs 98th percentile), and saying that x top 20 is more difficult to get into than y top 20 is not really going to be verifiable or necessarily accurate.
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I've also noticed that if you check the school sites, the MCAT numbers differ. The MSAR numbers are "accepted" students, whereas matriculant numbers tend to be 1-2 pts lower for schools that have 37 MCAT medians. GPAs tend to be lower too. These schools accept a lot of the same candidates, but they only go to one place in the end.

Some examples:

NYU: (3.79/35) https://www.med.nyu.edu/school/admissions/about-us/student-composition
Yale: (3.8/36) http://medicine.yale.edu/facts/education/index.aspx
Harvard: (3.8/36) https://hms.harvard.edu/departments/admissions/applying/selection-factors-admissions-statistics
Northwestern: (3.87/36) http://www.feinberg.northwestern.edu/admissions/process/class-profile.html
Hopkins: (3.87/35) http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/som/admissions/md/students/class_statistics.html
Penn: (3.84/37) https://www.med.upenn.edu/admiss/2006_class.html


Schools that are similar to MSAR stats:

Pitt: (3.85/36) http://www.medadmissions.pitt.edu/our-students/
Columbia: (3.82/36) http://ps.columbia.edu/education/admissions/faqs


Indeed the numbers aren't necessarily everything once one reaches the 35/3.8 range for schools in the top 20.
 
I had forgotten about that! I was still thinking that Sinai and NYU were at 36.

From now on. I'll just refer to them as the either the 4 Kings in Manhattan, or the Manhattan Quads.


WedgeDawg said:
Interestingly, according to the newest MSAR, NYU, Cornell, and Sinai all have 37 medians (along with most of the non-UC schools ranked in the top 20), and all 4 have ~3.85 median GPAs. The 36 medians are Hopkins, Columbia, Pitt, and Duke (which fluctuates between 35 and 36), and then UWash has a 31 or 32 median (but it also has different circumstances).

I don't think you can make the argument that Sinai is more selective than Hopkins just based on a higher MCAT median (and similar c/sGPAs). They're both incredibly selective schools. I don't think the difference is significant. People are randomly rejected by NYU but get into Columbia (me) and vice versa. People are rejected by Sinai but get into Harvard and vice versa. People get into WashU but are rejected by Cornell.

Once you're at this ridiculous level of competition, differentiating between schools with 36 and 37 MCAT medians will not tell you anything (literally 97th vs 98th percentile), and saying that x top 20 is more difficult to get into than y top 20 is not really going to be verifiable or necessarily accurate.
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Also for these stats there is a difference between median and mean. Just as an extreme example Commonwealth on their site says their average GPA is 3.5. The median GPA others such as MSAR report is 3.65.
 
WedgeDawg said:
@Banco

Some of the school-reported stats also are a few years old. IIRC, Columbia in particular had their 2011 data up until this spring.
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The ones that I reported are all from entering 2014 or 2013 classes. I made sure not to pick old ones.
 
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