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My question is if the medical school states this:

"official transcript from each college or university attended for all undergraduate and graduate studies. The transcripts must evidence that the applicant has a general academic index of 2.75 or above on a scale where A=4.0."

Does that mean that I must have a GPA of 2.75 at the time of applying or that I must finish my year prior to medical school with at least a 2.75 GPA?
 
alfredo24pr said:
My question is if the medical school states this:

"official transcript from each college or university attended for all undergraduate and graduate studies. The transcripts must evidence that the applicant has a general academic index of 2.75 or above on a scale where A=4.0."

Does that mean that I must have a GPA of 2.75 at the time of applying or that I must finish my year prior to medical school with at least a 2.75 GPA?
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I would hope both would be above 2.75 😵
 
alfredo24pr said:
My question is if the medical school states this:

"official transcript from each college or university attended for all undergraduate and graduate studies. The transcripts must evidence that the applicant has a general academic index of 2.75 or above on a scale where A=4.0."

Does that mean that I must have a GPA of 2.75 at the time of applying or that I must finish my year prior to medical school with at least a 2.75 GPA?
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It doesn't matter what they say because if your GPA is < 3.0 it's going to be close to impossible to get accepted.
 
2.75 at the time of applying.

But seriously you should have atleast a 3.5 when u apply. Ideally a 3.7.

You will always hear about the rare case of someone getting in with a 3.3 or something. But its extremely unlikely. And ive never heard of anyone get in with a gpa less than 3.2
 
Depends on the color of your skin.
 
hellocubed said:
2.75 at the time of applying.

But seriously you should have atleast a 3.5 when u apply. Ideally a 3.7.

You will always hear about the rare case of someone getting in with a 3.3 or something. But its extremely unlikely. And ive never heard of anyone get in with a gpa less than 3.2
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Over 3 thousand people had below a 3.3 last year and were accepted to US medical schools. Yes, higher is better, but throwing around numbers with zero validation is just silly.
 
AdrianVeidt said:
https://www.aamc.org/download/157958/data/table25-mcatgpa-grid-white-0911.pdf

Get a 33-35 on MCAT and there's a 30% chance of getting accepted with a 2.75 GPA as someone of the Caucasian race. 30% isn't bad I would say, so no, it doesn't depend on the color of your skin. Although percentage would increase if he/she was someone's who skin color was not white or yellow, it does happen regardless of skin color.
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Isn't that the definition of "depends"?

(Just having fun with you 😛)
 
Technically, sure.

but then again, the question at hand is do you have to have the minimum GPA at the time of matriculation or at the time you apply, and that would not depend on race at all, thus making his post, my 2nd post, your 2nd post and this post all nonsensical in the scope of this thread.
 
in my country, the best med school has an average MCAT score is 24. English is not our first language.

Im hoping that a 30 MCAT and my final GPA will be around 3.2.

I just had a really bad college start and lack of motivation. So does anyone know if its at the time of applying?
 
AdrianVeidt said:
Technically, sure.

but then again, the question at hand is do you have to have the minimum GPA at the time of matriculation or at the time you apply, and that would not depend on race at all, thus making his post, my 2nd post, your 2nd post and this post all nonsensical in the scope of this thread.
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Psh since when does making sense matter?

😎
 
^^ good point

alfredo24pr said:
in my country, the best med school has an average MCAT score is 24. English is not our first language.

Im hoping that a 30 MCAT and my final GPA will be around 3.2.

I just had a really bad college start and lack of motivation. So does anyone know if its at the time of applying?
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I would think it would be at the time of applying.
 
MedPR said:
Depends on the color of your skin.
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Bro I've seen you troll this URM thing a little too much around studentdoc. It's not appreciated.
 
flodhi1 said:
Bro I've seen you troll this URM thing a little too much around studentdoc. It's not appreciated.
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I think she was being sarcastic.

Regardless, she's right. If OP is Black, she needs a 30 on the MCAT to have a 60% chance of acceptance. Overall, 14% of Blacks with a GPA between 2.60 and 2.79 are accepted.

If OP is White, no MCAT score is high enough to comparably compensate for such a low GPA. With an MCAT score between 39 and 45, she would have a 33.3% chance of acceptance. Overall, 10.4% of Whites with a GPA between 2.60 and 2.79 are accepted.

If OP is Asian, no MCAT score is high enough to comparably compensate for such a low GPA. With an MCAT score between 33 and 35, she would have a 21.1% chance of acceptance. Overall, 5.8% of Asians with a GPA between 2.60 and 2.79 are accepted.
 
This topic has been discussed way too many times. Not only is it getting old but absolutely annoying. I would highly suggest you read previous threads and utilize the search button. Don't let another thread end up being a troll war. For those whining about URM have less competitive stats, I state the following.

1) You are crying about usually less than 10% of the slots in a class, which makes no impact in the bigger picture.

2)
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You have a wonderful evening now.
 
Gnomo said:
I think she was being sarcastic.

Regardless, she's right. If OP is Black, she needs a 30 on the MCAT to have a 60% chance of acceptance. Overall, 14% of Blacks with a GPA between 2.60 and 2.79 are accepted.

If OP is White, no MCAT score is high enough to comparably compensate for such a low GPA. With an MCAT score between 39 and 45, she would have a 33.3% chance of acceptance. Overall, 10.4% of Whites with a GPA between 2.60 and 2.79 are accepted.

If OP is Asian, no MCAT score is high enough to comparably compensate for such a low GPA. With an MCAT score between 33 and 35, she would have a 21.1% chance of acceptance. Overall, 5.8% of Asians with a GPA between 2.60 and 2.79 are accepted.
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Is it really that tough for Asians?
 
flodhi1 said:
This topic has been discussed way too many times. Not only is it getting old but absolutely annoying. I would highly suggest you read previous threads and utilize the search button. Don't let another thread end up being a troll war.
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Nobody said anything inflammatory so I don't know why you're so upset. A few folks pointed out the important fact that one's chances of being accepted into medical school depend in part on one's race. It's not possible to accurately "chance" someone or provide an acceptable GPA range without knowing her race.
 
Gnomo said:
Nobody said anything inflammatory so I don't know why you're so upset. A few folks pointed out the important fact that one's chances of being accepted into medical school depend in part on one's race. It's not possible to accurately "chance" someone or provide an acceptable GPA range without knowing her race.
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I have seen other comments made by that user. I know exactly what she was trying to say, as I stated, it's not new news to me.
 
flodhi1 said:
I have seen other comments made by that user. I know exactly what she was trying to say, as I stated, it's not new news to me.
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I agree dude, that wasn't an appropriate comment. If I were URM I'd be pretty pissed reading that.
 
ShenanigansMD said:
I agree dude, that wasn't an appropriate comment. If I were URM I'd be pretty pissed reading that.
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Ironically URM don't get pissed reading it. Sometimes it's the URM themselves that troll this topic just to get a rise out of people and I'm pretty sure you can take a wild guess who that might be in this thread :laugh:
 
Gnomo said:
Black with 3.3 and 28: 83% chance of acceptance

Asian with 3.3 and 28: 18% chance of acceptance
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I like how the percentage of black acceptances somehow dictates the percentage of Asian acceptances and the degree of difficulty that an Asian experiences.

Apples and oranges my friend, apples and oranges.
 
AdrianVeidt said:
I like how the percentage of black acceptances somehow dictates the percentage of Asian acceptances and the degree of difficulty that an Asian experiences.

Apples and oranges my friend, apples and oranges.
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You may analyze the facts however you choose.
 
Gnomo said:
You may analyze the facts however you choose.
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And the same goes for you, but it seems that you have a bone to pick with the URM advantage for African-Americans and your using statistics for African-Americans to validate the difficulty that Asians have. 2011 White accepted students had an average GPA of 3.70, while Asians had a 3.69, practically the same, so no, it is not really that tough for Asians (all of a sudden your statistics aren't alarming when compared to comparable demographics; like I said, URM to Asians is just like apples to oranges).

Comparing the average Asian applicant and the average URM applicant simply cannot be justifiably done as numbers do not correctly portray the huge disadvantage that URMs go through in order to achieve the slight advantage in an application process.
 
AdrianVeidt said:
And the same goes for you, but it seems that you have a bone to pick with the URM advantage for African-Americans and your using statistics for African-Americans to validate the difficulty that Asians have. 2011 White accepted students had an average GPA of 3.70, while Asians had a 3.69, practically the same, so no, it is not really that tough for Asians (all of a sudden your statistics aren't alarming when compared to comparable demographics; like I said, URM to Asians is just like apples to oranges).

Comparing the average Asian applicant and the average URM applicant simply cannot be justifiably done as numbers do not correctly portray the huge disadvantage that URMs go through in order to achieve the slight advantage in an application process.
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When did I mention this "URM advantage" of which you speak?

Anyway, here are some more facts:

Average Black matriculant: 3.44 / 26.3

Average American Indian or Alaska Native matriculant: 3.59 / 28.2

Average Mexican-American matriculant: 3.53 / 29.0

Average White matriculant: 3.70 / 31.5

Average Asian matriculant: 3.69 / 32.3
 
Gnomo said:
When did I mention this "URM advantage" of which you speak?
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Forgotten so quickly? Well let me refresh your memory.
Gnomo said:
I think she was being sarcastic.

Regardless, she's right. If OP is Black, she needs a 30 on the MCAT to have a 60% chance of acceptance. Overall, 14% of Blacks with a GPA between 2.60 and 2.79 are accepted.

If OP is White, no MCAT score is high enough to comparably compensate for such a low GPA. With an MCAT score between 39 and 45, she would have a 33.3% chance of acceptance. Overall, 10.4% of Whites with a GPA between 2.60 and 2.79 are accepted.

If OP is Asian, no MCAT score is high enough to comparably compensate for such a low GPA. With an MCAT score between 33 and 35, she would have a 21.1% chance of acceptance. Overall, 5.8% of Asians with a GPA between 2.60 and 2.79 are accepted .
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Also note your use of the words 'comparably compensate'. As I stated, it is quite crazy to compare two extremely different demographics.
 
AdrianVeidt said:
Forgotten so quickly? Well let me refresh your memory.
Also note your use of the words 'comparably compensate'. As I stated, it is quite crazy to compare two extremely different demographics.
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Still wrong. 🙄
 
AdrianVeidt said:
You're the one who advised me to analyze the facts as I choose so there's no way I could possibly be wrong, I just chose to analyze from a different (and much more accurate) point of view than you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_pfzYD1dXY

Just don't blame URM's if you never get to talk to your father again.
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If your argument is that Asian culture fosters academic and professional success, then we agree.
 
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