Grade Replacement: Exceptions to Credit Equivalence Policy?

[ganch0]

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Hey guys,

The UC school where I took my classes is on the quarter system, and by my luck is the only school in the UC system that has their typical science class at 5 quarter units. The rest of the UC's typically have 4 unit classes.

To my understanding, even if they are the same exact class, I cannot replace my original science coursework from any other UC school due to the non-equivalent credits (5 vs 4 units).

This leaves State and CC schools as an option, which typically have 3 unit semester courses, which are again non-equivalent (3 Semester Units = 4.5 Quarter Units)

This is incredibly frustrating. I was told by DO faculty that there are ways around this, and to inquire on this board.

Can anyone shed some light on what the policy is on such circumstances?

Thank you!

 

[Cardboard101]

Try De Anza community college in San Jose.
It operates on the quarter system and has 5 unit classes/6 unit class+lab for upper level science. Classes run 6/29-8/06

 

[ganch0]

Thank you! Unfortunately I had an advanced biology degree and took quite a bit of upper division bio classes which aren't offered by CC's. De Anza seems to be no exception.

Has anyone else been in a similar situation?

 

[Cardboard101]

Hmm. Double check. De Anza offers several upper division biology classes over the year, just not during summer. As does SDCCD. If you need something like genetics or microbiology SDCCD offers 5 semester unit lass + lab. Its a lot of extra works since 5 semester = 7.5 quarter, but you can do grade replacement.

 

[IDK22]

Hmm. Double check. De Anza offers several upper division biology classes over the year, just not during summer. As does SDCCD. If you need something like genetics or microbiology SDCCD offers 5 semester unit lass + lab. Its a lot of extra works since 5 semester = 7.5 quarter, but you can do grade replacement.

Which upper div bio classes do they offer if you don't mind me asking?

 

[Cardboard101]

At De Anza: Microbiology, Human Anatomy/Physiology and Marine biology this past Spring. I believe they also offer a neuro/genetics intro class over Fall/Winter.
I don't know if your school classifies Human Anatomy/Marine Biology as upper div bio, but mine does.
This is the catalog for SDCCD: http://schedule.sdccd.edu/index.cfm?action=search_class

What classes are you looking for specifically? I can try asking some of my friends if the offer the classes since the course catalogs aren't up yet for the standard year.

 

[ganch0]

Genetics (common), cell bio, eukaryotic molecular bio, developmental bio, and neurobio (possible replacement with neuroscience)

I've been hard pressed trying to find these courses offered outside the UC sytstem

 

[Cardboard101]

Eukaryotic mol bio and neurobio are going to be hard.

I know developmental biology is offered. Its usually listed as general biology B.

I think I read somewhere that replacement classes do not have to the equivalent or greater credit hours. So I emailed AACOMAS asking. This is their reply to me:

"Good morning,

Thank you for contacting AACOMAS. You can use any course to replace any other
course as long as it is equivalent, but it does not have to have equivalent
credits."

 

[blkgrnblkylw]

Eukaryotic mol bio and neurobio are going to be hard.

I know developmental biology is offered. Its usually listed as general biology B.

I think I read somewhere that replacement classes do not have to the equivalent or greater credit hours. So I emailed AACOMAS asking. This is their reply to me:

"Good morning,

Thank you for contacting AACOMAS. You can use any course to replace any other
course as long as it is equivalent, but it does not have to have equivalent
credits."

I wouldn't put too much stock into what the reps are saying. Seems like they might be providing inaccurate information when it comes to the retake policy and the credit equivalency not mattering. Also, that reps email doesn't really make sense. What does it mean by "You can use any course to replace any other course as long as it is equivalent, but it does not have to have equivalent credits." Isn't that kind of a contradiction, how is a course equivalent if the credits aren't equivalent, unless they mean equivalent course title only.

 

[Cardboard101]

Equivalent as in subject matter. Like you can't use Developmental Bio to replace Genetics.
The question I asked was if a 4.5 quarter unit class could replace a 5 quarter unit.

 

[FutureDrB]

I think I read somewhere that replacement classes do not have to the equivalent or greater credit hours. So I emailed AACOMAS asking. This is their reply to me:

"Good morning,

Thank you for contacting AACOMAS. You can use any course to replace any other
course as long as it is equivalent, but it does not have to have equivalent
credits."

Yes, the replacement class must be equivalent or greater in hours. A 5 hour class can replace a 4.5 hour class.

As the above poster said, AACOMAS is having some issues right now with the information it is providing. Look for recent posts by @gonnif relating to this.

 

[Cardboard101]

Yes, the replacement class must be equivalent or greater in hours. A 5 hour class can replace a 4.5 hour class.

As the above poster said, AACOMAS is having some issues right now with the information it is providing. Look for recent posts by @gonnif relating to this.

We're talking about the opposite. 4.5 unit replacing 5 😛

 

[FutureDrB]

We're talking about the opposite. 4.5 unit replacing 5 😛

Ooops my bad, read that wrong. It will have to be equivalent or more, it definitely can't be less.

With that said, I don't know anything about the quarter unit system since all we have around here are semesters.

Who knows, maybe a regular 4-hour semester is equal to/greater than 4.5 quarter units...but I've never heard that and would doubt it.

 

[Cardboard101]

Yeah, AACOMAs uses 1.5 quarter = 1 semester.
Unfortunately some quarter classes are 5 units where as most colleges only offer 3 unit semester classes. 3 semester = 4.5 quarter which previously didn't replace, not sure about now. Gonnif says nothing's changed so I'm gonna stick with what he says.

 

[ganch0]

Thank you gonnif! Can anyone provide a link to AACOMAS documentation on this matter? I have found nothing but the instruction manual which is too vague, and I'm getting a different answer for every rep that I talk to

 

[FutureDrB]

Thank you gonnif! Can anyone provide a link to AACOMAS documentation on this matter? I have found nothing but the instruction manual which is too vague, and I'm getting a different answer for every rep that I talk to

Maybe something here:
http://help.unicas.com:8888/aacomas...cademic-history-2/transcript-entry/index.html

 

[Dochopeful13]

Has there been any update whether or not credits have to be same or greater?