Grade Replacement Please Help

[ImDiene0412]

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I just realized that the GPA for my Dual Enrollment courses I took during High School weren't taken into account for my Undergraduate GPA. I finished Undergrad with a 3.67 (which was also my science GPA), but my Dual Enrollment GPA is 2.27-3.0 depending on how they calculate it. I took almost 60 credit hours. It was stupid, but at the time I thought it was smart and a way to be able to pay for my college.

Does anyone have any advice? I'm so upset, I thought I was in an okay place applying. I can't believe courses I took in high school will have such a huge affect...

 

[Yhorm the Giant]

I'm so sorry. Yeah my 32 credits at a like 1.1 gpa from almost years ago are taking me from 3.48 to 3.01 when grade replacement disintegrated. I was 18, now almost 28, and yeah it's hard to believe your past can haunt you this much. I think you really need to figure out if you are above a 3.0 or not. There are other threads on some schools still taking grade replacement and some schools who don't have a minimum gpa requirement, so you can at least avoid being screened automatically. What aren't you sure about which gpa you have? You can download an aacomas or an amcas gpa calculator Excell spreadsheet and just put in every college course you've ever taken, repeat or not, and that is what yours will be. A 2.27 is hard, even with a post bac or smp I think. I genuinely feel for you, and I hope there is some up side to this for you.

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[ImDiene0412]

Thank you so much for the support, I'm so sorry to hear about your situation too 🙁. What are your plans?

I'm unsure of how they will calculate the dual enrollment GPA since their grading scale was A B C etc. vs. A+ A A- ect. I'm not sure if they will adjust for that or what my grades would be in that case. If they did, and all of my grades were on the minus side, my cumulative GPA would be 3.29 and science 3.33. If I count them as just A B etc. my cumulative ends up being 3.47 and science 3.46. Overall, this is how it will look on my application:

HS: Cumulative: 2.7-3.0 BCPM: 1.91-2.21
Freshman: Cumulative: 3.16 BCPM: 2.87
Sophmore: Cumulative: 3.79 BCPM: 3.77
Junior: Cumulative: 3.82 BCPM: 3.82
Senior: Cumulative: 3.96 BCPM: 4.0

Cumulative Undergraduate GPA: 3.29-3.46
Cumulative Undergraduate BCPM: 3.33-3.39

Once again, depending on how high school dual enrollment courses are calculated... Hopefully on the upper end and they would see I'm a stronger student than what my high school college courses show... :/

 

[bears1992]

Dual enrollment courses are calculated the same as any other college course.

I don't think your GPA will be an issue for DO as both of your overall GPAs are within 1 standard deviation of the 2016 matriculate class AND you have a killer upward trend.
http://www.aacom.org/docs/default-s...riculant-profile-summary-report.pdf?sfvrsn=10

There is an adcom for a DO school that posts frequently on this site @Goro and he generally says that low GPA can be forgiven as long as the applicant shows 1-2 years of sustained academic excellence. Most people that have killer upward trends like yours face the problem of having an overall GPA that is not high enough to make it past the auto screens. The highest autoscreen for DO is KCU at 3.25. Since your app will not be getting screened out for DO, every school will get eyeballs on your app and it will be apparent very quickly that your lowish overall GPAs are not an accurate measure of your current academic performance.

According to the DO adcom from this site, AACOMAS displays your overall cGPA and sGPA and then lists your cGPA and sGPA for each year. Your grade trend would be very apparent right away. As for MD schools, your dual enrollment GPA gets separated. It still gets calculated into your overall GPAs but the high credit amount and low GPA will be seen as HS. Either way, your upward trend will be easy to see.

 

[Goro]

Bears summed it up quite nicely. You have shown that the you of now is not the you of then.

Thank you so much for the support, I'm so sorry to hear about your situation too 🙁. What are your plans?

I'm unsure of how they will calculate the dual enrollment GPA since their grading scale was A B C etc. vs. A+ A A- ect. I'm not sure if they will adjust for that or what my grades would be in that case. If they did, and all of my grades were on the minus side, my cumulative GPA would be 3.29 and science 3.33. If I count them as just A B etc. my cumulative ends up being 3.47 and science 3.46. Overall, this is how it will look on my application:

HS: Cumulative: 2.7-3.0 BCPM: 1.91-2.21
Freshman: Cumulative: 3.16 BCPM: 2.87
Sophmore: Cumulative: 3.79 BCPM: 3.77
Junior: Cumulative: 3.82 BCPM: 3.82
Senior: Cumulative: 3.96 BCPM: 4.0

Cumulative Undergraduate GPA: 3.29-3.46
Cumulative Undergraduate BCPM: 3.33-3.39

Once again, depending on how high school dual enrollment courses are calculated... Hopefully on the upper end and they would see I'm a stronger student than what my high school college courses show... :/

 

[ImDiene0412]

Dual enrollment courses are calculated the same as any other college course.

I don't think your GPA will be an issue for DO as both of your overall GPAs are within 1 standard deviation of the 2016 matriculate class AND you have a killer upward trend.
http://www.aacom.org/docs/default-s...riculant-profile-summary-report.pdf?sfvrsn=10

There is an adcom for a DO school that posts frequently on this site @Goro and he generally says that low GPA can be forgiven as long as the applicant shows 1-2 years of sustained academic excellence. Most people that have killer upward trends like yours face the problem of having an overall GPA that is not high enough to make it past the auto screens. The highest autoscreen for DO is KCU at 3.25. Since your app will not be getting screened out for DO, every school will get eyeballs on your app and it will be apparent very quickly that your lowish overall GPAs are not an accurate measure of your current academic performance.

According to the DO adcom from this site, AACOMAS displays your overall cGPA and sGPA and then lists your cGPA and sGPA for each year. Your grade trend would be very apparent right away. As for MD schools, your dual enrollment GPA gets separated. It still gets calculated into your overall GPAs but the high credit amount and low GPA will be seen as HS. Either way, your upward trend will be easy to see.

Thank you very much for your help. If I get a decent MCAT score (I'm currently scheduled for April 22), do you think I have a chance of acceptance in any MD programs? Also, I'm not a traditional applicant, I took some time off to work before applying, some of which was in the hospital. I want to hi-light this in my application, along with the fact that I am 100% sure medical school is right for me, but do you have any other advice on how to make my application stand out, or things I should be careful of because I'm non-traditional?

 

[bears1992]

Thank you very much for your help. If I get a decent MCAT score (I'm currently scheduled for April 22), do you think I have a chance of acceptance in any MD programs? Also, I'm not a traditional applicant, I took some time off to work before applying, some of which was in the hospital. I want to hi-light this in my application, along with the fact that I am 100% sure medical school is right for me, but do you have any other advice on how to make my application stand out, or things I should be careful of because I'm non-traditional?

"Chancing" applicants with weak overall GPAs and upward trends are tough because AACOMAS and AAMC do not release matriculate data on grade trends. To figure out how your grade trend would affect your MD chances you would need to have an MD adcom weigh in @gyngyn. Based on your overall GPA, I'd say you'd have a tough time with MD as the average matriculate GPA is 3.7 BUT you have a huge upward trend so it depends on how much weight that trend holds with adcoms. I'm just a premed so I really can't give advice on things that have no published data.

 

[gyngyn]

Post in WAMC when you have the rest of the data and we'll be happy to help.

 

[ImDiene0412]

Post in WAMC when you have the rest of the data and we'll be happy to help.

Thanks so much, I'll post when I have my MCAT scores, although at that point it will be late May so I'll probably have to have started the application process.