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Is it worth going to gross or not? I mean, obviously I need to go to the lab, but should I waste two hours in the lecture? I tend to be the type that studies best from a book. I get almost nothing from lectures - usually.
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surebreC said:
The smartest thing you can do is try it both ways and see. Some people are not great self starters and get less done if they don't attend lectures. Others are too prone to distraction and get nothing out of it. No one can tell you what works because it's different for everyone.
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Tough call. I'm a lecture person, but anatomy really varied at our school depending on the lecturer. There are *some* things that can be easily explained or highlighted in a lecture (including some basic spatial relationships, and also the functional aspects like what muscle corresponds to a particular movement). However, the ones that were worthless were so worthless I wanted to gouge my eyes out.
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I personally would say that yes, it's immensely important. Like others have said, whether it is useful or not depends on the quality of the lecturers, how much of a direct connection exists between what you're learning in lecture and later in lab, etc. In my experience, I learned most of anatomy in lecture and really used lab dissection to reinforce that. It was tougher for me to learn anatomy from a book and much, much easier to learn by having someone explain physical relationships verbally and graphically.
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Personally I think it's important, not so much for the boards, but for the tests from your school. Lectures tend to let you know what the professor thinks is important.. and therefore what he's going likely to test you on for the exam.
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very true...but if your school provides comprehensive notes, lecture powerpoints posted online and recorded mp3's of each lecture.....I'd rather go to lecture on my couch whenever I feel like I'm in the mood to pay attention. When I'm tired or bored...I take a break. When the prof is speaking too fast or something is really important and I want it repeated...I press pause and rewind. Its not that I don't like my professors or lecture in general....I just learn better when I'm comfortable, alert and can break up a dense day of back to back lectures however I want and not miss anything.ayznshorti said:
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I don't know if we have the powerpoints online (i think we do) but we do have comprehensive notes. So, I will know what the professor covered in class. I think I will check it out for the first week or so and see how it works.
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surebreC said:
It depends on lot's of factors, the professor, your attention span, and your out of school study habits. You'll have to find what works for you.
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Agreed....and as much as I prefer to learn on my own, as I described above, any professor that makes visual presentations or tends to draw things free-hand on the board to help explain things is one I will not usually miss. If you have a professor in anatomy who will demonstrate w/ 3-D models or uses their body for musculoskeletal function/injury mechanism demonstrations it is probably worth going to. Otherwise...I learned how to read a powerpoint a long time ago....Hernandez said:
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Taus said:
bingo, I'm preferentially an auditory learner, but I did my best studying from 7pm to 4 am, so I tended to sleep in a bit.
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I'm also an auditory learner and study best late at night.....I'm about to go to "class" right now (ie put on the mp3 and open the powerpoint...) I'll prob wake up at noon tomorrow....gotta take advantage of the last year that I can set my own schedule probably until I retire....Hernandez said:
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OSUdoc08 said:
you know what, after 3 weeks of having internal arguments with myself over skipping lectures, i completely agree with you - sadly, i don't get a D*MN thingh out of lectures - at all. hey, i can read, so when i print out the powerpoint lecture notes, i can sleep until 6 am instead of getting up at 4 to commute to hear somebody read them to me!! anatomy is no different, how sad!!!
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Taus said:
how sad that this appears to be a nationwide trend - the whole "let me read the powerpoint TO YOU" routine. the day lecture is worth my time is the day i will start going again.
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I probably wouldn't go if it wasn't right before lab and if we didn't get some points from quizzes at the end of lecture. I'm not seeming to get a lot out of attending lecture.
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well, biochem and physiology lectures are absolutely useless, yawnfests. I still haven't decided on gross yet.
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Goose-d said:
Nah, I went today but I won't go back. It's a total waste of time.
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I am a second-year, and I don't feel that I get much out of lecture. Last year, I mostly went to lecture but went through a period where I purposely did not. Now I always go, though, for several reasons:
1. It keeps me on a good schedule. If I don't go to lecture, I tend to sleep in instead of waking up and studying on my own.
2. My school does not have audio or video of lectures available online. It also does not have a note-taking service. The syllabus (PowerPoint slides plus text written by the lecturers), in addition to textbooks, is all we have.
3. I feel disconnected and out of touch with what's going on when I don't attend class.
4. How do I know that lecture doesn't help me? The fact that I feel like it doesn't help much means little. I bet I get more out of lecture than I think I do.
The vast majority of us learn by repetition. Lecture is an exposure to that material. If you have audio and/or video of the lectures that you can watch anywhere, anytime, then you aren't missing much by not going (other than the structure it provides). If your school does not have these resources, then you still might not need lecture, but I think it's a bigger risk.
As others have said, you need to figure out what works best for you. It's sucky that a one-size-fits-all strategy doesn't exist, but hopefully we will be better off in the long run as a result of the experiment.
1. It keeps me on a good schedule. If I don't go to lecture, I tend to sleep in instead of waking up and studying on my own.
2. My school does not have audio or video of lectures available online. It also does not have a note-taking service. The syllabus (PowerPoint slides plus text written by the lecturers), in addition to textbooks, is all we have.
3. I feel disconnected and out of touch with what's going on when I don't attend class.
4. How do I know that lecture doesn't help me? The fact that I feel like it doesn't help much means little. I bet I get more out of lecture than I think I do.
The vast majority of us learn by repetition. Lecture is an exposure to that material. If you have audio and/or video of the lectures that you can watch anywhere, anytime, then you aren't missing much by not going (other than the structure it provides). If your school does not have these resources, then you still might not need lecture, but I think it's a bigger risk.
As others have said, you need to figure out what works best for you. It's sucky that a one-size-fits-all strategy doesn't exist, but hopefully we will be better off in the long run as a result of the experiment.
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Heh, yeah Phys and MBOD are total sleepers 😴 Gross is interesting enough to keep me awake, but with our class notes system in full swing, it's kind of tempting to just show up for lab only. I think I'll wait till Block 2 before I start playing hooky though.
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I've decided I actually like anatomy lecture. I don't know why, but somehow I learn something in it.
The other two remain boring as hell. I just wish they didn't do the pop quiz thing in physiology or i would ditch it too.
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You fell into that trap too? I had absolutely no faith in myself to go to all the lectures, so I didn't bother.
As for me, I've completely given up on MBOD, and I don't go to Phys depending on the lecturer. As of right now I'm going to Anatomy, but we will see about that next block.
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My school records most classes and posts the videos online so we can see the class any time. We also have the powerpoint presentations used for each lecture available to view at any time online. The only ecxeption to this rule is the Anatomy/ embriology/ Histology block. For some reason the faculty refuses to record vidoes of each class. They say they do it to force students to attend lecture. The powerpoint presentations are available though.
The good thing about going to class is that sometimes tha faculty does emphasize certain important points in the lecture, which you can be sure WILL be on the exam. I'm definately am not a morning person, so when attend lecture I am usually falling asleep by the second hour.
The good thing about going to class is that sometimes tha faculty does emphasize certain important points in the lecture, which you can be sure WILL be on the exam. I'm definately am not a morning person, so when attend lecture I am usually falling asleep by the second hour.
