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It's final exam today and the dude got busted redhanded by the TA and got escorted out of class. What an idiot.
 

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wow! the same dude in the other thread you posted?? serves him right!
 

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Imagine that. Now he's given up all that he has worked for because he was trying to take the easy way.

I wonder if someone "snitched". If so, good for them. He deserved it.
 

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After all the drama of the other thread, I'm glad this happened.
 

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blah, don't revive the other thread.
 

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That's good. Hopefully he'll learn.

Did the professor see the notes on his ipod or pda or whatever gadget he was using?
 
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Yep, the prof saw all the notes on his blackberry and busted him in class and escort him out.
 

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Some of the responses in the previous thread and other threads on this subject suprise me.

I can't believe some people's "mind your own business" attitude towards cheating.

You owe it to the profession, the patients you ultimately serve, and yourself to report those that cheat.

You allow cheating to become rampant and we'll have a legion of doctors, pharmacists, nurses, and other professionals who are a danger to society rather than an asset.

It's simple as that, there is no gray area. This is, in fact, one of the few examples of a black and white issue.
 

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Please do not resurrect the other thread. In fact, I think it bears repeating:

PLEASE DO NOT RESURRECT THE OTHER THREAD!!!
 

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I'm glad that someone like that got caught before they got into pharmacy school. That person would have taken a spot away from a person that really wanted it and would do more with it. There is no room for cheating in this profession as we are typically in the top five most respected professions in the country. Plus, you can't cheat when you're in clinical rotations your fourth year or on the NAPLEX.
 

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Please do not resurrect the other thread. In fact, I think it bears repeating:

PLEASE DO NOT RESURRECT THE OTHER THREAD!!!

I agree I would appreciate if Farmercyst closed this thread as well before the trolls get here.
 

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I'm surprised the student let the professor look into his blackberry? How did the prof even know how to navigate around blackberry? What happened to privacy? Students can have private photos etc, private notes, diaries like Paris Hilton's Sidekick phone... Can he sue? lol

Unless the professor were behind the cheater's back? Something like this... "I CAUGHT U!!!" Then again if the professor were behind him, he would've sensed that.
 

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I'm surprised the student let the professor look into his blackberry? How did the prof even know how to navigate around blackberry? What happened to privacy? Students can have private photos etc, private notes, diaries like Paris Hilton's Sidekick phone... Can he sue? lol

Unless the professor were behind the cheater's back? Something like this... "I CAUGHT U!!!" Then again if the professor were behind him, he would've sensed that.
I don't know what schools you go to, but all of the schools I have attended don't allow you to use any electronic devices during testing unless it's a math or science course you were making calculations in and only with an approved calculator, i.e. no graphing where you can enter formulas etc.
 

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I don't know what schools you go to, but all of the schools I have attended don't allow you to use any electronic devices during testing unless it's a math or science course you were making calculations in and only with an approved calculator, i.e. no graphing where you can enter formulas etc.
Obviously the prof let the student use his blackberry until dnguyen emailed the prof and got suspicious.
 

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Obviously the prof let the student use his blackberry until dnguyen emailed the prof and got suspicious.

Are you like high when you write your posts ?
 

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Are you like high when you write your posts ?
Can you please read carefully. Last time you responded to my note, you claimed that I called you "evil" LOL!!!!!!


And this time, I have no idea what the hell you're talking about!

P.S. No, I'm not high. Whatever you're smoking tho, let me get some!
 

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Obviously the prof let the student use his blackberry until dnguyen emailed the prof and got suspicious.

You know what they say about people who ASSuME things right? I don't know of any professor who allows students to use electronic devices while they still have their exams. That in itself is grounds for being asked to leave the examination room and at the minimum, failure of the exam.
 

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You know what they say about people who ASSuME things right? I don't know of any professor who allows students to use electronic devices while they still have their exams. That in itself is grounds for being asked to leave the examination room and at the minimum, failure of the exam.
Well, let's take a look.

Student pulls out his blackberry during the last exam (or maybe every class?). Why didn't the professor say anything? So obviously the professor saw him with the blackberry. However, he was not aware he's cheating. Dnguyen stated that the prof didn't just pull him out because he has a "cell phone" while taking the exam. The prof "busted" him in class, actually read the notes, and then escorted him out. It wasn't a bad assumption. It was just obvious.

Btw, if gadgets weren't allowed, the prof could've just escorted the student out. He had no right to go through his phone. It's really unlikely that the prof was behind the student and said "I READ UR NOTES...I CAUGHT YOU!!"
 

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Well, let's take a look.

Student pulls out his blackberry during the last exam (or maybe every class?). Why didn't the professor say anything? So obviously the professor saw him with the blackberry. However, he was not aware he's cheating. Dnguyen stated that the prof didn't just pull him out because he has a "cell phone" while taking the exam. The prof "busted" him in class, actually read the notes, and then escorted him out. It wasn't a bad assumption. It was just obvious.
I would say that it's bad logic. You assumed quite a bit of information there without any basis of what was actually stated.
 

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I can't believe the professor allowed the use of the cellphone before class. Whenever I had exams, we were not allowed to use any electronic devices unless it was a calculator(Graphing or non-graphing)
 

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Actually, any issue of privacy is nulled at most schools, especially private schools. I learned this after I was banned for a week from the wireless network because they found out I was actively pirating movies, software, and music.

I mean, the professor must have told him to either let him see the Blackberry or the exam gets voided, if you have nothing to hide, then he would have let him see it.
 

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Actually, any issue of privacy is nulled at most schools, especially private schools. I learned this after I was banned for a week from the wireless network because they found out I was actively pirating movies, software, and music.

I mean, the professor must have told him to either let him see the Blackberry or the exam gets voided, if you have nothing to hide, then he would have let him see it.


Exactly. :) It same at all private institutions.
 

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My pchem2 final on Tuesday, we had to turn in all our electronic devices to our professor before we were even allowed to use a bathroom. All the other finals, electronic devices were permanently banned.
 

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pchem? i assume you mean ochem? :laugh:

And yeah, most classes I had would make us leave backpacks and even hats in the back. If a cellphone went off and we had it in our posession, ZERO! I was even asked to leave my sunglasses in the back. I'd like to see someone actually try typing answers small on clear paper and paste it into their sunglasses. Now that would be a trick.
 

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pchem? i assume you mean ochem? :laugh:

And yeah, most classes I had would make us leave backpacks and even hats in the back. If a cellphone went off and we had it in our posession, ZERO! I was even asked to leave my sunglasses in the back. I'd like to see someone actually try typing answers small on clear paper and paste it into their sunglasses. Now that would be a trick.
No, I mean pchem, physical chemistry.:) I've been feeling orgasmic that I am done with pchem, at least untill pharm school !
Yeah we have a 0 score policy too if the cell phone goes off.
 

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pchem? i assume you mean ochem? :laugh:

And yeah, most classes I had would make us leave backpacks and even hats in the back. If a cellphone went off and we had it in our posession, ZERO! I was even asked to leave my sunglasses in the back. I'd like to see someone actually try typing answers small on clear paper and paste it into their sunglasses. Now that would be a trick.

Pchem could be physical chemistry.
 

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No, I mean pchem, physical chemistry.:) I've been feeling orgasmic that I am done with pchem, at least untill pharm school !
Yeah we have a 0 score policy too if the cell phone goes off.
Pchem is crazy hard subject, but it is extremely interesting and fun!!! Good luck man!
 

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I would say that it's bad logic. You assumed quite a bit of information there without any basis of what was actually stated.

Actually, I only assumed that the prof must've allowed the student to play with his blackberry. Zapages assumed that the prof allowed his student to use his cellphone also. I wasn't the only to have noticed it..it's pretty obvious.

At my school, all syllabus says "NO CELL PHONES IN CLASS" but somehow profs usually forget this and you'll see people chatting on their Sidekick..Iphone..etc. And when prof. forgets, they are allowing students to play w/ their cell phones.

So if Dgnuyen's class policy is "NO CELL PHONES", then why did he have to email the prof? The prof could've figured that policy out without Dguneyen having to remind him. Naseuy, what do you think? I think the logic is..and I said it previously, the professor allowed the student to play with his blackberry, but was not aware of cheating.
 

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pchem? i assume you mean ochem? :laugh:

And yeah, most classes I had would make us leave backpacks and even hats in the back. If a cellphone went off and we had it in our posession, ZERO! I was even asked to leave my sunglasses in the back. I'd like to see someone actually try typing answers small on clear paper and paste it into their sunglasses. Now that would be a trick.
Actually, I think its just because with the sunglasses, you could have your eyes on someone else's paper, and the professor wouldn't know.

But, I came up with an idea for sunglasses, that maybe when I have enough money, I can invent.

There are currently sunglasses out there with that have bluetooth connections and can be connected to cell phone's, etc. They have earphones attached as well.

My idea was to have sunglasses that have a transparent LCD built in, so that you can view stuff on your cell phone from your sunglasses, even when your cell phone is in your cup holder.
 

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Actually, I only assumed that the prof must've allowed the student to play with his blackberry. Zapages assumed that the prof allowed his student to use his cellphone also. I wasn't the only to have noticed it..it's pretty obvious.

At my school, all syllabus says "NO CELL PHONES IN CLASS" but somehow profs usually forget this and you'll see people chatting on their Sidekick..Iphone..etc. And when prof. forgets, they are allowing students to play w/ their cell phones.

So if Dgnuyen's class policy is "NO CELL PHONES", then why did he have to email the prof? The prof could've figured that policy out without Dguneyen having to remind him. Naseuy, what do you think? I think the logic is..and I said it previously, the professor allowed the student to play with his blackberry, but was not aware of cheating.

I don't know what school you have been going to, but generally speaking, playing with a cell phone during an exam = failure of the exam. Either the professor was not aware of it, or did not enforce it due to incompetence. I'm more likely to believe the first. I don't necessarily think that a professor is allowing a student to cheat if they do not know it is happening.
 

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My idea was to have sunglasses that have a transparent LCD built in, so that you can view stuff on your cell phone from your sunglasses, even when your cell phone is in your cup holder.

LOL
 

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Actually, I think its just because with the sunglasses, you could have your eyes on someone else's paper, and the professor wouldn't know.

But, I came up with an idea for sunglasses, that maybe when I have enough money, I can invent.

There are currently sunglasses out there with that have bluetooth connections and can be connected to cell phone's, etc. They have earphones attached as well.

My idea was to have sunglasses that have a transparent LCD built in, so that you can view stuff on your cell phone from your sunglasses, even when your cell phone is in your cup holder.
I thought they had those already. the commercial had some guy sitting on a park bench in a park and he was talking to himself and doing hand gestures and then it went to his view and it showed this screen on the sunglasses things he was wearing.

And yeah, the sunglasses thing to see other peoples papers... I think we always had to leave a seat in between us. THOUGH, we did have someone that tried writing answers on the desk with pencil. She had us all sit in different seats. I used to have this thing where I would "look" at other peoples papers near me to compare, but I never actually copied their answers. My grades were evident of that. :D I sat next to stupid people often.
 

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Actually, I think its just because with the sunglasses, you could have your eyes on someone else's paper, and the professor wouldn't know.

But, I came up with an idea for sunglasses, that maybe when I have enough money, I can invent.

There are currently sunglasses out there with that have bluetooth connections and can be connected to cell phone's, etc. They have earphones attached as well.

My idea was to have sunglasses that have a transparent LCD built in, so that you can view stuff on your cell phone from your sunglasses, even when your cell phone is in your cup holder.
"Pinky and the Brain" beat you to it.
 
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I don't know what school you have been going to, but generally speaking, playing with a cell phone during an exam = failure of the exam. Either the professor was not aware of it, or did not enforce it due to incompetence. I'm more likely to believe the first. I don't necessarily think that a professor is allowing a student to cheat if they do not know it is happening.

The Syllabus did have a No CellPhone Rule. The guy was sitting in the very back row by himself. I doubt the prof saw what he was doing until today when the TA came in late and saw what the student was doing with his blackberry.
 

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The most creative method I have ever heard of is this. I know someone who has a black light pen. I'm not sure what the other component is, but all I know is that the other component is invisible.

The person writes down any critical information with the invisible marker, prior to the class beginning, then uses a black light pen during the exam to illuminate the information they wrote down on the desk.
 

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The most creative method I have ever heard of is this. I know someone who has a black light pen. I'm not sure what the other component is, but all I know is that the other component is invisible.
The person writes down any critical information with the invisible marker, prior to the class beginning, then uses a black light pen during the exam to illuminate the information they wrote down on the desk.
wow that's a pretty good idea LOL.

anyways, i don't think we should be exchanging cheating ideas on here!!
 

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wow that's a pretty good idea LOL.

anyways, i don't think we should be exchanging cheating ideas on here!!
Actually, I'm gonna be buying one of these sets to use in scenario paintball. Radios are fine for communication, but when you gotta be silent and have to get a message to the platoon leader 3/4 mile away, you can just tell him to come over to a special point where you've written down instructions via the magic marker on some tree.
 

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Actually, I'm gonna be buying one of these sets to use in scenario paintball. Radios are fine for communication, but when you gotta be silent and have to get a message to the platoon leader 3/4 mile away, you can just tell him to come over to a special point where you've written down instructions via the magic marker on some tree.
Paintball is cool, how did you get hooked up on it ?

I wish I could do something fun like that from time to time.
 

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Paintball is painful... but yeah, totally fun. Just don't go with a bunch of military guys!
 

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Paintball is painful... but yeah, totally fun. Just don't go with a bunch of military guys!
It is not painful. It is a momentary thing and then the endorphins are released.

If it's the first time you're playing, you'll be scared at first because you haven't been hit yet. I adjusted myself to the pain by shooting myself. After you get shot, you're not as scared and it gets really fun.

This is what I tell women about paintball. There are more painful things out there, such as bikini waxes. :scared:

I got hooked to it in high school. I joined up, started as a private, overshot somebody so I got sent to a firing squad as punishment. Eventually (like 8 months), I made it to Captain because I'm able to quickly change strategies in the middle of a battle, kinda like Peyton Manning.
 

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Yeah it doesn't really hurt that much during paintball... it's afterwards. I was soooo sore all over and exhausted! I keep in shape but I still had trouble keeping up with 20 yr old army guys who run 5 miles everyday no sweat and are trained to hunt down the enemy... but hey it's all fun! Definitely something you got to try at least once.
 

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Yeah it doesn't really hurt that much during paintball... it's afterwards. I was soooo sore all over and exhausted! I keep in shape but I still had trouble keeping up with 20 yr old army guys who run 5 miles everyday no sweat and are trained to hunt down the enemy... but hey it's all fun! Definitely something you got to try at least once.
But that's not from paintball, that's just from your body not being used to the work out that comes from all the running, change in terrain, etc.
 
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