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When i grow up, I want to be like you ! The slow n steady banking is just the way to go with GT, less stress, more time to let things sink in, and u're done banking early and can incorporate other things! Way to go!
What's ur daily GT load like?
I've been done banking for a little over a month now, and I still keep up with my daily review questions. For me, I think it's still incredibly useful to get the repetition. There is stuff that I've seen literally 20+ times, but I'm constantly surprised at how stupid stuff can slip through the cracks. (Today, I had to think harder than I would have liked in order to remember S3 vs S4).
I plan on sticking with the daily GT review right up til test day (June for me). Right now I'm focusing on UWorld and reading (currently RR Path). Since RR Path is kind of a b*tch to get through, I like to take a break every 2-4 pages and do 10 GT questions. That way I feel compelled to keep reading RR Path until my daily question load is up...lol
Aw thanks My daily load is typically around 150 or so, ranges between 80 and 200.
To get through the last block of information you hadn't been taught, you just taught it to yourself or what?
I've been done banking for a little over a month now, and I still keep up with my daily review questions. For me, I think it's still incredibly useful to get the repetition. There is stuff that I've seen literally 20+ times, but I'm constantly surprised at how stupid stuff can slip through the cracks. (Today, I had to think harder than I would have liked in order to remember S3 vs S4).
I plan on sticking with the daily GT review right up til test day (June for me). Right now I'm focusing on UWorld and reading (currently RR Path). Since RR Path is kind of a b*tch to get through, I like to take a break every 2-4 pages and do 10 GT questions. That way I feel compelled to keep reading RR Path until my daily question load is up...lol
Yeah I think I'm going to do something similar, except with Pathoma instead of RR. The integration in RR is great, but it's useless if you can't get through it. My attention span is not long enough to do RR.
I'm guessing you're a fan of Pathoma? I actually have a tab open in my browser on the purchase page of the Pathoma, but I just haven't pulled the trigger yet. I know there is a whole thread on here that talks about Pathoma, but I haven't had a chance to read through it. Do you find it to be a good way to integrate all the information? Also, is it reasonable to watch it at 2x? I watch all my class podcasts at 2x, and it makes getting through an hour lecture much more reasonable.
Sorry for thread-jacking, but this seems like a good place to ask how us GTers can integrate something like pathoma in with it.
The book is only ~200 pages, but it's deceptively dense. It's not as comprehensive and detailed as RR [for example I can't find anything about porphyria's in it], but it has 99% of everything you need. MOST IMPORTANTLY it reads very easily, unlike RR which is always a dreadfully plodding read.
That being said the real value of the program is the videos. He's just a really good teacher By that I mean, he explains things very clearly, makes "whiteboard" drawings for complex things, never sounds dull, never just reads to you, etc. I watch the videos at 1x the first time, then 1.7x the second time. I annotate into the book's margins. Oh and of course I bank the relevant cards on GT!
I'd like to take this moment to state my opinion that there is no such thing as "the right" method/books. Spending alot of time researching/tinkering with different resources is a huge temptation we must resist; we'd be much better served not jumping back and forth but sticking to something and putting in the time to master it. Sometimes you have to jump around a little to find what works for you, but some people never move past the indecision phase and that is fatal.
The book is only ~200 pages, but it's deceptively dense. It's not as comprehensive and detailed as RR [for example I can't find anything about porphyria's in it], but it has 99% of everything you need. Most importantly it reads very easily, unlike RR which is always a dreadfully plodding read. I get a lot more out of something I enjoy reading and can get through over a more highly rated resource I don't like reading and can't get through.
That being said the real value of the program is the videos. He's just a really good teacher. By that I mean, he explains things very clearly, makes "whiteboard" drawings for complex things, never sounds dull, never just reads to you, etc. I watch the videos at 1x the first time, then 1.7x the second time. I annotate into the book's margins. Oh and of course I bank the relevant cards on GT!
I'd like to take this moment to state my opinion that there is no such thing as "the right" method/books. Spending alot of time researching/tinkering with different resources is a huge temptation we must resist; we'd be much better served not jumping back and forth but sticking to something and putting in the time to master it. Sometimes you have to jump around a little to find what works for you, but some people never move past the indecision phase and that is fatal.
Btw I don't know if you guys have checked out the short videos GT is putting out on FB/Youtube via Firecracker but I think they're pretty good. They should integrate them onto the cards themselves though rather than having to go on youtube.
I was also considering Pathoma, but I ended up figuring that I could force myself through RR (and I was a cheapskate)... but it looks like a really awesome program. I will say that once you've done GT, getting through RR path is a lot easier than attempting to go at it without any prior review.
You already get those 4 or 5 Qbanks free for your school so go ahead and pull the Pathoma trigger. Based on reading your posts, you'd love it.Thanks for the run down. I totally agree on the point about picking a review source and sticking to it. I've seen people buy every book out there, but just having the books or programs or whatever does you no good if you can't use them properly. Right now, I am trying to decide what to use along with GT to supplement and give me a complete picture. I already have RR, so I was thinking of using that (and saving the $85) but then I also hear good things about pathoma. I keep wondering if I'll have enough time for all the videos...then again, getting through RR will take at least as long as watching all the videos. Oh well, I still have a couple days of getting caught up with school work before I really need to start worrying about this.
You already get those 4 or 5 Qbanks free for your school so go ahead and pull the Pathoma trigger. Based on reading your posts, you'd love it.
Having the corresponding GT card open along with a pathoma video in the window beside it is amazing. They both hit the same points, but each has a slightly different perspective. On one side of the screen you have your GT summary card and pictures and the other is the video of Sattar explaining, drawing diagrams, and highlighting. Good mix of learning methods.
You can watch all the videos on Pathoma on 1.7x speed and probably get down with it all in 3-5 days depending on how long you can sit for. I feel the videos have way more than just the book and don't even use it.
Check out the sample videos they have and see if you like it.
You already get those 4 or 5 Qbanks free for your school so go ahead and pull the Pathoma trigger. Based on reading your posts, you'd love it.
Having the corresponding GT card open along with a pathoma video in the window beside it is amazing. They both hit the same points, but each has a slightly different perspective. On one side of the screen you have your GT summary card and pictures and the other is the video of Sattar explaining, drawing diagrams, and highlighting. Good mix of learning methods.
You can watch all the videos on Pathoma on 1.7x speed and probably get down with it all in 3-5 days depending on how long you can sit for. I feel the videos have way more than just the book and don't even use it.
Check out the sample videos they have and see if you like it.
I'd be careful at getting too many sources. As you approach the end, it's probably best to stick to the core stuff. Especially if you have a daily GT load.
More resources isn't always better. Better to know one quality resource cold than to know 3 good resources pretty well.
Yes, basically just used GT + wikipedia as needed to learn it. It was certainly slower and more difficult than banking things I had already seen in class, but since it was only for a two (fairly straightforward) subjects it wasn't too bad. Now that I've banked them on GT, class is soooo much easier.
No matter where you go to school, I figured there is inevitably material on the boards that you haven't seen in class, so at some point we all pretty much have to teach ourselves something
Hey just curious guys...how do you compare GT path with RR path for those who have looked at the material in both areas...do you think GT Pathology + Pathoma videos = cover all of rapid review Path? I was wondering is necessary at that point if GT path tends to have a lot of Path?
Another Q - Do y'all bank craploads of stuff then do all the quiz questions? Or bank some, quiz some, bank some, quiz some?
Hey just curious guys...how do you compare GT path with RR path for those who have looked at the material in both areas...do you think GT Pathology + Pathoma videos = cover all of rapid review Path? I was wondering is necessary at that point if GT path tends to have a lot of Path?
RR path covers a lot more than GT (obviously), but of the topics where GT overlaps with RR, the GT cards are often lifted straight from RR path. I haven't done Pathoma (only watched one of their free trial videos), but from what I've seen it's extremely unlikely that GT + Pathoma = RR path. Both GT and (probably) Pathoma are not as in depth as RR.
Another Q - Do y'all bank craploads of stuff then do all the quiz questions? Or bank some, quiz some, bank some, quiz some?
Does it affect your mastery percentage between levels 4 and 5? I thought that above 4 would be "mastered," but I think I've "mastered" almost all of cardio at at least level 4, and it still says I'm at ~70% mastery....Does 4 not raise the percent as much as 5?
Thanks!
I'm not sure, but I recently went through and banked the last ~30% of GT and rated everything as a 4, but my percent mastery only increased by like 20% instead of the 30+% I was anticipating. I didn't worry about it really, because I knew I would be going back on a second pass of that material and rating it as a 2 or 3, so my percent mastery was sure to drop from that; however, I was confused why the percent mastery increase didn't match the percent of GT that I had banked. Maybe you're on to something here, perhaps a 4 isn't worth a full "point" of mastery?
Also, for those interested, I have been doing pretty good keeping up with my daily questions (usually like 400-600), but I messed up Wednesday. I only got like 25 of 575 done that day...that meant yesterday I wound up with 1024 questions. I got through them, but damn, I am not going to let one day roll over into the next again. That was brutal. Makes my 430ish questions today seem like nothing.
I thought the card average determined your mastery if you went through it more than a couple of times. Do any of those cards have averages of 3.5/3.6? It make take two times through with 4+ ratings to bump it over 4. Anyone else figure it out? This is my unconfirmed suspicion.
I thought the card average determined your mastery if you went through it more than a couple of times. Do any of those cards have averages of 3.5/3.6? It make take two times through with 4+ ratings to bump it over 4. Anyone else figure it out? This is my unconfirmed suspicion.
I thought 5 was full mastery, 4 half mastery (as far as your total mastered). Also I thought it was independent of repetitions.
I think CatFactorial may have it right regarding the mastery percentage calculation. Also, I think some of the automatically calculated stats are a little buggy (for instance, my homepage tells me I have banked 1065 out of 1064 flash cards...). So don't get too wound up over mastery percent, it may just be a placebo number
I'm going to go with something like this.
For example, I went through all of the behavioral sci stuff one day. Then I repeated it all about a week later, and had all but a handful of cards rated as mastered, but set most to a 4 since I remembered them immediately right then, but also knew it was really fresh in my mind so wanted to see them one more time. I recently went through that last time, but my rating of cards didn't change much. So every single card right now is a 4 or 5, but I'm only at 83% mastery - to get full mastery it must need a 5.
Yah, as 12/21/12 approaches, you'll probably see a lot more of this attitude. We're all pretty much f***ed.Supposedly the step 2 program or an upgrade of some kind is imminent. I emailed them a couple of weeks ago about a minor glitch and they said it wasn't worth fixing because the update would be soon.
I have a new dilemna with gunnertraining haha.
So after going over endocrine and reporoductive physio I decided to take a day to just chill out with first aid open banking the relevant cards since I hadn't banked in a while.
So I quickly realized that EVERY GT section had extra little bits of info that FA didn't have and I ended up spending like 20-30 minutes per card slowly searching through FA to see if the info was elsewhere and then annotating it into FA and it just made me take at least 4 times as long to do my cards. It took me an hour just to bank like 2-3 cards right now.
I'm not sure if this will help me in the long-run... sometimes I feel like these could be the little details that FA is missing and will help my score and other times I feel like learning these new little details everyday will just bog me down and hold me back from knowing my HY info cold and it will cause me to have an extra 50 GT q's a day because it'll take longer to master them.
I'm also worried about annotating too early and filling up FA and then being low on space when it's Uworld time and my FA will just become one big mess that will be hard to sift through.
ARHH I hate these dilemnas, I feel like I have a new one everyday to distract me from getting my days worth of material covered.
This was one of my problems with GT. I also would advise not annotating, just realize they are giving you background information to help you understand, in the end the FA material will be what you need to know. Definitely do not stress over the details, just try to understand them.
GT should make a FA mode.
No. There are differences in diagrams and flow charts between the two. GT has done a good job adding images to each card, but they're not the same.so this has probably been said a billion times before...does GT basically cover everything in First Aid and by "cover" i mean including some of the flow charts and mneomonics that some people including myself value at times? With this mind...isn't first Aid futile if you can just rely 100% on an online system that hones in your weaknesses and easy to navigate...I actually even like the notion of annotating GT instead of First Aid
Does anyone use the detailed analytics page or do you just look at your percent mastery on the dashboard? I fall into the latter.
Sorry, don't want to answer your question.What is the general consensus on GT?
Is it essential and/or a very useful tool for Step 1? (Sorry, don't want to read 28 pages)
What is the general consensus on GT?
Is it essential and/or a very useful tool for Step 1? (Sorry, don't want to read 28 pages)
Does anyone use the detailed analytics page or do you just look at your percent mastery on the dashboard? I fall into the latter.