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Buckeye(OH)

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Did anyone that was accepted to OUCOM just get the letter about how starting August 8th, students will have a four week immersion class in anatomy and OMM before school starts?

Whatever OU, I think that just made by decision between CCOM and OU a hell of a lot easier.
 
Buckeye(OH) said:
Did anyone that was accepted to OUCOM just get the letter about how starting August 8th, students will have a four week immersion class in anatomy and OMM before school starts?

Whatever OU, I think that just made by decision between CCOM and OU a hell of a lot easier.

Personally, I don't know why this causes you to laugh incontrollably. Perhaps you can expand (and some of us might be able to explain?).

As I understand, this was decided because at OU-COM we have two curricula: the CPC and the PCC. The PCC students start anatomy right away in the first quarter with the back. The CPC start anatomy later in the quarter.

Now, both CPC and PCC start OMM at the same time. The issue was that the PCC students were exposed to the anatomy of the back before the CPC students were (paraspinal muscles, vertebral column, etc.) and therefore during OMM class, when they explained some of the techniques the CPC students were a bit puzzled by the anatomical explanations, since they weren't exposed to origins and insertions of back muscles, facet joints, etc. The administration decided to give students an anatomy intensive so that everyone is on the same page when it comes to understanding some OMM techniques.

As far as the OMM intensive, that hasn't changed. We had the intensive when we started school and it's intense, but it really goes a long way to develop your palpatory skills before the "real" OMM stuff begins. The only difference this time is that instead of having the intensive during the regular quarter, the intensive will be held together with the Anatomy intensive.

Also, many second year students are coming to school early so that they can tutor the entering students in anatomy and OMM to help ease the rigors of the Anatomy intensive.

I thought this was a good idea (trust me, the more anatomy you can learn before schools starts, the easier your life will be). If you think this is a compelling reason for you to decline your acceptance at OU-COM please let the admissions office know your thoughts. I'm sure they'll be interested.

Good luck with your future career as an osteopathic physician. You'll get an awesome education whether you attend OU-COM or CCOM.
 
Shinken said:
Personally, I don't know why this causes you to laugh incontrollably. Perhaps you can expand (and some of us might be able to explain?).

As I understand, this was decided because at OU-COM we have two curricula: the CPC and the PCC. The PCC students start anatomy right away in the first quarter with the back. The CPC start anatomy later in the quarter.

Now, both CPC and PCC start OMM at the same time. The issue was that the PCC students were exposed to the anatomy of the back before the CPC students were (paraspinal muscles, vertebral column, etc.) and therefore during OMM class, when they explained some of the techniques the CPC students were a bit puzzled by the anatomical explanations, since they weren't exposed to origins and insertions of back muscles, facet joints, etc. The administration decided to give students an anatomy intensive so that everyone is on the same page when it comes to understanding some OMM techniques.

As far as the OMM intensive, that hasn't changed. We had the intensive when we started school and it's intense, but it really goes a long way to develop your palpatory skills before the "real" OMM stuff begins. The only difference this time is that instead of having the intensive during the regular quarter, the intensive will be held together with the Anatomy intensive.

Also, many second year students are coming to school early so that they can tutor the entering students in anatomy and OMM to help ease the rigors of the Anatomy intensive.

I thought this was a good idea (trust me, the more anatomy you can learn before schools starts, the easier your life will be). If you think this is a compelling reason for you to decline your acceptance at OU-COM please let the admissions office know your thoughts. I'm sure they'll be interested.

Good luck with your future career as an osteopathic physician. You'll get an awesome education whether you attend OU-COM or CCOM.


All good points. However, you said that the CPC kids were behind when school started? Well, this starting early apparently, is for everyone, so now the PCC kids get a double dose?

The laughing uncontrollably was caused by A) that pisses away half my summer and B) I feel as if this should have been mentioned at the interview.

I do feel as if starting a month early, is a somewhat compelling reason for me to choose CCOM.
 
Buckeye(OH) said:
All good points. However, you said that the CPC kids were behind when school started? Well, this starting early apparently, is for everyone, so now the PCC kids get a double dose?

The laughing uncontrollably was caused by A) that pisses away half my summer and B) I feel as if this should have been mentioned at the interview.

I do feel as if starting a month early, is a somewhat compelling reason for me to choose CCOM.

No, the CPC students aren't behind when school starts. They just start anatomy at a different point in their curriculum. The PCC won't get a double dose. The CPC and the PCC will start anatomy together now and the curricula adjusted accordingly. This way, nobody is at an advantage/disadvantage when OMM starts.

As far as the summer before school starts, yes it does take up some time off the summer but hey, it's med school. Welcome to hard work (not trying to sound condescending or anything, but it's truly hard work. It'll pay dividends when the quarter starts. Any anatomy you learn in those four weeks is anatomy you don't have to learn when you're in the middle of a tough block).

The reason it probably wasn't mentioned at the interview is because the plan to start students early wasn't finalized until recently. It wouldn't be right to inform the later interviewees of the intensives while the early interviewees weren't informed of it during their interview. That's my guess as to why it wasn't brought up.

Again, if you want the full scoop talk to admissions. Otherwise, if you already made up your mind I'm sorry you won't be coming to OU but you gotta do what you gotta do.
 
August 8th is still a week more summer than I will be seeing--NSU starts orientation on August 1st which I believe leads directly into classes.

Oh well, I asked for this...Bring it on.
 
UNECOM starts in July. Why would you avoid a school that offered more education?
 
if I get into the early anatomy program at Western, I will be taking most of my gross anatomy in 8 weeks or so which starts in June! so no complaining about August start dates here buddy 🙂
 
i think it starts in july
 
kahoo99 said:
i think it starts in july

nope, just looked through my interview booklet, it says the program runs from June til July.
 
thanks,
then when does "normal" class start?
 
Anyone know when KCOM starts classes?
 
MSUCOM is starting July 7. We're taking a 7wk Gross anatomy before the rest of our classes start at the end of August.

raDiOnut
 
I couldn't handle that. This is MY last summer, and I'm gonna enjoy it.
 
Buckeye(OH) said:
I couldn't handle that. This is MY last summer, and I'm gonna enjoy it.

agreed 👍
 
Buckeye(OH) said:
Did anyone that was accepted to OUCOM just get the letter about how starting August 8th, students will have a four week immersion class in anatomy and OMM before school starts?

Whatever OU, I think that just made by decision between CCOM and OU a hell of a lot easier.
I guess it is kind of funny for a school to listen to its students. It is my understanding that students in the CPC continually complained about not having a good background in anatomy prior to starting OMM. This 4 week immersion was designed to do this. The faculty and staff didn't just get together and decide, "Hey, let's screw them all and start school 4 weeks early!" They are doing this because we as students asked for it. The school is doing this at great expense to themselves (Do you have any idea how much an extra 4 weeks is going to cost the school?) to do this for the students.
 
DORoe said:
I guess it is kind of funny for a school to listen to its students. It is my understanding that students in the CPC continually complained about not having a good background in anatomy prior to starting OMM. This 4 week immersion was designed to do this. The faculty and staff didn't just get together and decide, "Hey, let's screw them all and start school 4 weeks early!" They are doing this because we as students asked for it. The school is doing this at great expense to themselves (Do you have any idea how much an extra 4 weeks is going to cost the school?) to do this for the students.

While I understand where you are coming from, I still would rather have known about this up front.

Furthermore, I understand that it was still in the works when I interviewed, but they didnt give the slightest hint that such a change may be coming.
 
Buckeye(OH) said:
While I understand where you are coming from, I still would rather have known about this up front.

Furthermore, I understand that it was still in the works when I interviewed, but they didnt give the slightest hint that such a change may be coming.

Yes, but why announce something that wasn't approved? There was a lot of investigation as to budgets, faculty availability, student tutors availability, etc. Also, the anatomy lab couldn't be used because there are summer programs in progress that can't be disturbed, so in addition to all the above a new anatomy lab had to be planned (and it's being built as we speak - it will be on the ground floor at Grosvenor). The feasibility wasn't set in stone at the time OU-COM started interviewing prospective students.

It's best to announce the approved plan rather than say "we're thinking of doing this" then have some students get excited about starting anatomy early and choose OU-COM for that reason, and then have the school say "by the way, the plan fell through and it's not going to happen."
 
Buckeye(OH) said:
While I understand where you are coming from, I still would rather have known about this up front.

Furthermore, I understand that it was still in the works when I interviewed, but they didnt give the slightest hint that such a change may be coming.

I agree with you. It is quite suspect that this was not mentioned at your interview. This would certainly weigh heavily on my decision as well considering it is your last summer. I certainly would not blame you for choosing CCOM. I thought the anatomy intensive for four weeks was a horrible idea personally since I wager most students won't remember it and will end up having to read it again before OMM labs anyhow. All that said, OUCOM is a great school and I suspect you would really enjoy it here. Everyone here is great and supportive. It is really an awesome place. Good luck wherever you choose.
 
it was metioned that they were thinking about it-at some point at least
we were in the same group
 
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