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Do surgeons perform this procedure or do dermatologists?
seewell said:dermatological surgeons.
(dermatologists with extra surgery training)
DOCTORSAIB said:Not true. Anyone can do hair transplants. Do a quick search and you'll see that there are FP's, Urologists, Radiologists, General surgeons, Dermatologists, etc who have switched fields into hair transplant surgery.
fedor said:Can you provide a link to a radiologist doing hair transplant surgery?
DOCTORSAIB said:Not true. Anyone can do hair transplants. Do a quick search and you'll see that there are FP's, Urologists, Radiologists, General surgeons, Dermatologists, etc who have switched fields into hair transplant surgery.
As far as I know, all you need to do is a one year training program through something like MHR (Medical Hair Restoration) and you're good to go. HT surgery is a field that many students don't even think about when considering specialties. If you want big $$$ and 9-5 lifestyle, HT surgery is definitely a GREAT option.
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NRAI2001 said:How much on average do these hair transplant surgeons make per year? Is it a competitive field to enter?
How much is the cost of a single surgery?
DOCTORSAIB said:I don't think annual income for HT surgeons is published. One of my dad's friends had HT surgery. He paid over $6,000 (cash). If you do 2 of those per day x 5 days/wk x 4 wks/month...that equals $240,000/month!![]()
That explains why a dermatologist or a radiologist would drop their practice and switch to HT surgery. I'm definitely keeping my options open...![]()
NRAI2001 said:In the article with the radiologist HT surgeon it said that he did only one surgery per day. Didn't say how many per week.
ny skindoc said:Anyone can take a class and say they do hair transplants.There are significant liabillity issues in this field.As for getting 6K per procedure,and filling up your week with this..dont count on it.There are limited numbers of people who will pay this kind of money and there are many plastic surgeons,dermatologists etc who have practices focused on cosmetic procedures who get the bulk of the patients.If you go to a physician shortage area it may be easier to do this.
ny skindoc said:Anyone can take a class and say they do hair transplants.There are significant liabillity issues in this field.As for getting 6K per procedure,and filling up your week with this..dont count on it.There are limited numbers of people who will pay this kind of money and there are many plastic surgeons,dermatologists etc who have practices focused on cosmetic procedures who get the bulk of the patients.If you go to a physician shortage area it may be easier to do this.
DOCTORSAIB said:Not true. Anyone can do hair transplants. Do a quick search and you'll see that there are FP's, Urologists, Radiologists, General surgeons, Dermatologists, etc who have switched fields into hair transplant surgery.
As far as I know, all you need to do is a one year training program through something like MHR (Medical Hair Restoration) and you're good to go. HT surgery is a field that many students don't even think about when considering specialties. If you want big $$$ and 9-5 lifestyle, HT surgery is definitely a GREAT option.
J14 said:how do we apply?
DOCTORSAIB said:Sounds like someone's been enlightened! I remember reading this a while back when I was researching this stuff on the net. Google "Medical Hair Restoration" and somewhere on there is a link to their application and requirements. Perhaps you can contact the person in charge and get the down-low on this enigma of a field. Let us know. I'm sure there are plenty of other people interested.![]()
ny skindoc said:Anyone can take a class and say they do hair transplants.There are significant liabillity issues in this field.As for getting 6K per procedure,and filling up your week with this..dont count on it.There are limited numbers of people who will pay this kind of money and there are many plastic surgeons,dermatologists etc who have practices focused on cosmetic procedures who get the bulk of the patients.If you go to a physician shortage area it may be easier to do this.
novacek88 said:Hair transplantation isn't a part-time job. Most plastic surgeons aren't involved with this field because
a. ) They lack the training (they too have to enroll in of these fellowships)
b.) education.
droliver said:The cutting of the grafts & implantation is mostly grunt work done by their assistants in many clinics.
caldoc44 said:So how effective are hair transplants?Anyone have any experience with them? Had one? Observed any cases?
teaparty123 said:medicine is a business after all and the money is if you can market yourself well and also if you're good at what you do. the word will get around if you do a great job, people dont give a crap about what kind of a specialty you are if you can do the job well. Also even if dermatologists can do this but have no business sence for recruiting patients and run a profitable clinic they will collapse as well. there are excellent primary docs who have mastered the outpatient system and make tons of cash, efficient and successful at their job so after all the training in hair transplants or cosmetics make sure you take a business course...
10 years forwad. Is the situation any different now?
Perhaps they're just asking a too high price for the procedure? Couldn't it be cheaper?Pretty much the same. Some of the technology (e.g. Neograft) is newer (some can argue whether it is technically better)
The same barriers to success exist. I live and work in a rather affluent area and recruitment for hair transplant patients is still sparse.
I'm slightly receding 2/2 med school stress (not even close to bald) and thought this might be a good pre-residency present. So looked into getting one of these myself. Was shocked I couldn't find anywhere within 5 states of me that offered this under $7000 with all the fees, etc. Additionally the soonest availability was 2 months out. They must be doing something correct. It would be interesting if a HT doc or someone who has worked with a HT doc could comment about the field. I'm sure they don't want to say much as having others entering the field would only create more competition for themselves. I highly doubt to many medical students have the opportunity to shadow one with how secretive the business it. The whole thing seems like a very successful scam---cash pay, $6+ per graft, many hidden fees, etc. There's no way that any HT doc isn't bringing in at least 1mil/yr.
Not true. Anyone can do hair transplants. Do a quick search and you'll see that there are FP's, Urologists, Radiologists, General surgeons, Dermatologists, etc who have switched fields into hair transplant surgery.
As far as I know, all you need to do is a one year training program through something like MHR (Medical Hair Restoration) and you're good to go. HT surgery is a field that many students don't even think about when considering specialties. If you want big $$$ and 9-5 lifestyle, HT surgery is definitely a GREAT option.
I'm from Europe though. Do they teach foreigners?The US Transplant Academy is the best. It's superior to The International Pilar Consortium, but just by a hair.
I'm pretty sure they have an online training program. You can print your certificate upon completion. You should google them.
Where's the best place to study this?
DHI!?
You've got to be kidding me!
DHI can't hold a tuft of hair to the USTA or the IPC.
Unfortunately, both are pretty elite groups (think of the movie The Skulls from the 90s), and so it's invite only. You're going to have to put in the legwork if you wanna play with the big wigs.
What about these places?
Turkey: Hair Transplant Training and Hair Restoration Training FUE Courses for doctors Turkey
Turkey: Hair Transplant Training – Tayfun Oguzoglu Hair Transplant Clinic
India: Hair Transplant Training - AK Clinics
Hungary: Hair Transplant Training Course - Learn HT at Fue.Center
London: Hair Transplant Training London
Some of them seem to have appeared just recently. All of them offer a 1-week-course.
Thanks! That is a good point.Most of them teach FUE. You will also need to learn the strip method because not everyone is a good candidate for FUE.
You can achieve that by going out of the country. Living there for about 6 months and just doing cases of all kinds. Living in another country like turkey won't cost much. When you return you will need to learn how to run the business of hair transplants. Then you will make lost of money doing it once you are established. I will cost you as I said above and then the cost of opening and marketing a highly competitive business.
3 months sounds very nice for the same price the others offer just 1 week. At least you won't feel as ripped of even if it is a scam, because living in India for 3 months may be a fun experience on its own.The one in India that's 3 months long. I would do that and see if you could stay 3 months more. India is cheap to live in. Then I would go to the US and find a guy who can teach you the business side and be a mentor for about a year (you may have to pay for that). You may need a mentor if a difficult case comes along.
So I figure with equipment, training, travel, lodging, business buildout, marketing, six months survival money you looking at about 200 to 250.
The average Hair restoration is aroung 5000 to 7500 per patient. You can had PRP to it and get another 1500 -2000 for some patients. You can do the math. It's a business. Good luck.