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Hey everyone, this is my first post on sdn, though i've been reading around awhile. I was hoping to get some insight into the HES and their post bac program. Here are a few questions I had regarding their Health Careers Program.
1. Was the 2 years a good prep for the MCAT/med school?
2. What areas are best for living around the Cambridge area
3. Is it possible to really work part-time, volunteer, and take 3 classes at once?
4. What did you honestly think of the program or wish you knew about it before you started it?

Any help is much appreciated. Thanks everyone! 🙂
 
Bump. Would like to know how difficult the coursework is compared to other postbacs. I hear physics is insanely hard.
 
I'm entering into my second year at the HCP, researching 40 hours/week at MGH, and I'm an executive of the HEPS (Harvard Extension PreHealth Society). So, I'll see if I can provide any insight.

1) I've yet to take the MCAT, but due to how rigorous the courses are, I've heard that they serve as adequate prep for the test.

2) It depends on what you deem "best". Cambridge and surrounding areas of Boston are incredibly expensive (and I came from San Diego!). There are also some areas that are a little rough--not unlike other major cities--so the best area for a student would probably be something closer to campus, relatively cheap, and in a safe neighborhood. Hard to come by.

3) No. Just....no. Although each class is only 4 units on paper, you sink about 10-15 hours a week into that one course. There are labs, sections, review days, homework, and studying to consider for each. I currently work 40 hours/week while taking two classes and everyone says that I am insane. Even the Director of the program. But, the research position I have is absolutely invaluable to me, so I make it work. I have a couple of friends who took 3 courses (and did NOTHING ELSE), so if you'd like I can give you their information and they can tell you how grueling it was.

4) I wish I had really known the scope of how rigorous this program is. I'm going to be very blunt with you: our attrition rate is about 60-70%. Approximately 400 students enter into each class and by the end of the two years, only about 40 sponsorship letters are written. The program is an absolute ass kicker. For instance, I came away with 4 B's by the end of last year, completely stagnating my GPA. This isn't to say that I would go anywhere else: I think that the Harvard program is pumping out some very qualified and prepared candidates. But, really be prepared for what you're up against. I've learned from my mistakes and now know what I'm up against for the second year, so I intend to rock it. But, people getting C's in these course is not uncommon.

As a side note about physics: Yes, this course is crazy difficult. The learning will be the complete responsibility of the student as the professor doesn't teach concepts, and the text is too convoluted to glean any solid information from. Taking Rueckner's class is definitely a rite of passage. And, after we took the first mid-term, about half of the class dropped out the next day. But, again, the BS that we put ourselves through is probably going to pay off when it comes time to take the MCAT (or, at least that's what we tell ourselves to get us through the nights).
 
Thanks for the detailed response BeachBlondie, it definitely helped a lot! I'm absolutely positive I will be applying there for next fall, though what I think I will do is just stick to 2 courses and a part time job that is hopefully research oriented. All this scare about the physics course is definitely freaking me out though, time to start reviewing some of those math concepts! What exactly does the medical society you mentioned do? Is it purely a place for students to have study groups and find support?

As for finding a place to live, I can only continue to keep searching around padmapper.com and craigslist, still got awhile to go. Is it true that the social scene is completely dead and the place is filled with gunners and unfriendly people? The other posts on this topic I feel were just being completely trolled. Thank you again for the response! 🙂
 
Thanks for the detailed response, it definitely helped a lot!
 
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I've got a quick follow up question for Beach Blondie (or someone else who knows). I wouldn't be enrolling in the full HCP program because I've already taken gen chem and orgo, but I might be interested in taking physics and a bio class or two this fall. I'm noticing that there are two tuition prices for each class: an "undergraduate credit" price, which is cheaper, and a more expensive "graduate credit" price. On the website it says that students taking courses for graduate credit sometimes have different assignments, etc. Does this mean that in order to be taken seriously by med schools, you need to take Harvard Extension classes for graduate credit? I wouldn't mind the extra work (in fact, I'd appreciate it) but the money might be a problem.
 
Hi there!

Just completed the HCP and agree with everything that was said above. I also worked full time during the program, participated in HEPS, had two weekly volunteer positions and my grades were decent - not perfect, but good enough (i hope!). If I had a choice, I would've probably worked part time instead, but with paying for classes, rent, etc...part time was not an option for me!

As for the graduate vs. undergrad credit - you definitely do NOT have to take the classes for graduate credit. I'm sure Dr. Fixsen would be happy to explain that to you! And believe me - the undergrad classes are plenty of work 🙂 It was HARD, but excellent prep for the MCAT!
 
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