Has anyone gotten into top 10 Med, from 4 tier undergraduate?

[kamran]

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Has anyone gotten into top 10 Med, from 4 tier undergraduate?

What is the best possible school to get into from low tier schools?

 

[just one]

Has anyone gotten into top 10 Med, from 4 tier undergraduate?

What is the best possible school to get into from low tier schools?

Assuming you want a genuine answer, list YOUR top 10 (since that is the only top 10 that is possible) and your exact schools meeting tier 4 criteria.

 

[GoSpursGo]

Yes. Your GPA and MCAT matter much more than where you went.

 

[DrYoda]

Has anyone gotten into top 10 Med, from 4 tier undergraduate?

Yes.

What is the best possible school to get into from low tier schools?

Doesn't matter. Get good grades and kill the MCAT.

 

[Jolt21]

What is the best possible school to get into from low tier schools?

the best one you get accepted to based off your stats.

 

[mechtel]

Yes, definitely.

I went to a "top 10" undergrad and met many of the med students while doing research and taking a class at its "top 10" medical school. Most of the students I met did not come from "top 10" undergrads.

 

[TopSecret]

Has anyone gotten into top 10 Med, from 4 tier undergraduate?

What is the best possible school to get into from low tier schools?

Probably not too many since most seem to come from the top 50 universities and liberal arts colleges.

You can search on Mdapps to see who went to which schools.

 

[mipp0]

So what qualifies a university to be 4th tier? I assume this is what you meant.

Make a list. I'm curious...

 

[mmmcdowe]

I go to a top ten medical school from arizona state. According to US News ASU is a tier one, but I don't really know what you are using.

Yes, definitely.

I went to a "top 10" undergrad and met many of the med students while doing research and taking a class at its "top 10" medical school. Most of the students I met did not come from "top 10" undergrads.

I'd say that a huge chunk of them do though. At least 2/3 of my medical school are top 20 (counting both LAC and University top 20s). Almost half is Ivy.

 

[DrYoda]

So what qualifies a university to be 4th tier? I assume this is what you meant.

Make a list. I'm curious...

I'm assuming the OP is basing the tiers off the USNews. they break undergrads up into tiers 1-4.

 

[calnation]

The word tier should be banished from this forum

 

[TopSecret]

Yes. Your GPA and MCAT matter much more than where you went.

It still counts for something.

For instance, if a Harvard grad with a 42 MCAT and a 3.8 GPA and a East Tennessee State University (acceptance rate of 90%) with a 42 MCAT and a 3.8 GPA were both applying to the same school, the Harvard grad would have preference over the ETSU grad.

 

[mmmcdowe]

It still counts for something.

For instance, if a Harvard grad with a 42 MCAT and a 3.8 GPA and a East Tennessee State University (acceptance rate of 90%) with a 42 MCAT and a 3.8 GPA were both applying to the same school, the Harvard grad would have preference over the ETSU grad.

Not necessarily. Some schools, such as Yale, pride themselves in taking as many universities as possible in a given class. Besides, this is a case of all things being equal, and its not like that really ever happens.

 

[Beta Cell]

It still counts for something.

For instance, if a Harvard grad with a 42 MCAT and a 3.8 GPA and a East Tennessee State University (acceptance rate of 90%) with a 42 MCAT and a 3.8 GPA were both applying to the same school, the Harvard grad would have preference over the ETSU grad.

The 42 MCAT is the way to objectively measure them. Everyone seems to complain about Harvard's rampant inflation and everyone also loves to cite Harvard's latin honors rates, so a 3.8 GPA at Harvard could possibly be easier than at ETSU.

I do agree, though, I would most certainly look at least slightly more favorably on the Harvard graduate due to his or her continued commitment to academic excellence. It takes hard work to get into Harvard undergrad, that GPA and MCAT demonstrate continued excellence, so why would that student's performance in medical school be any different?

I, myself, go to UF for financial reasons. I'm hoping adcoms don't think the way I outlined above because that could potentially hurt my chances for the 2011 cycle.

 

[TopSecret]

Not necessarily. Some schools, such as Yale, pride themselves in taking as many universities as possible in a given class. Besides, this is a case of all things being equal, and its not like that really ever happens.

That may be the case for Yale.

Harvard, on the other hand, prefers its own. I know a couple of Harvard docs. They both went to Harvard for undergrad, Harvard for medical school, and Harvard (Mass Gen) for residency.

 

[Beta Cell]

I go to a top ten medical school from arizona state. According to US News ASU is a tier one, but I don't really know what you are using.



I'd say that a huge chunk of them do though. At least 2/3 of my medical school are top 20 (counting both LAC and University top 20s). Almost half is Ivy.

I have a question about that dyanmic: Do people still try to say their alma mater, (insert ivy league school), is better than all the other ivies? Do students from the same ivy alma mater tend to stick together?

 

[Beta Cell]

Class Statistics
There were 5,138 completed applications for the August 2008 entering class.
Annually, Harvard Medical School interviews between 800-1000 applicants for a class of 165.
All entrants took the MCAT and had baccalaureate degrees.
The class is made up of students:

• from 64 undergraduate institutions, 34 states and 13 foreign countries
• 66% of whom majored in the sciences
• 16% of whom were social science majors, and 7% of whom were humanities majors
• the age at entrance ranged from 21 to 36
• 49% are women, 51% are men
• 50% are students of color, and 18% of the student body are members of under-represented minority groups

165 seats and 64 undergraduate institutions represented gives an approximately 3 seat per institution average. Every school seems to show preference to students of the school's undergrad, but probably because they are familiar with the student's letter writers, familiar with the student, familiar with the rigor of the program, etc. I think MIT sends around 11 to Harvard Med per year and Harvard sends around the same. It's not much preference; Harvard is fair.

 

[jla314]

Not necessarily. Some schools, such as Yale, pride themselves in taking as many universities as possible in a given class. Besides, this is a case of all things being equal, and its not like that really ever happens.

Lol Yale took exactly 30 kids from Harvard last year...14 of them matriculated. With 30 spots out of 200ish acceptances going to ONE school, I'd say Yale is definitely showing some undergrad bias. Statistically, going to Harvard or another Ivy gives you a better shot at Yale than going to any of the other *hundreds* of undergraduate institutions in the U.S.

 

[jla314]

Class Statistics
There were 5,138 completed applications for the August 2008 entering class.
Annually, Harvard Medical School interviews between 800-1000 applicants for a class of 165.
All entrants took the MCAT and had baccalaureate degrees.
The class is made up of students:

• from 64 undergraduate institutions, 34 states and 13 foreign countries
• 66% of whom majored in the sciences
• 16% of whom were social science majors, and 7% of whom were humanities majors
• the age at entrance ranged from 21 to 36
• 49% are women, 51% are men
• 50% are students of color, and 18% of the student body are members of under-represented minority groups

165 seats and 64 undergraduate institutions represented gives an approximately 3 seat per institution average. Every school seems to show preference to students of the school's undergrad, but probably because they are familiar with the student's letter writers, familiar with the student, familiar with the rigor of the program, etc. I think MIT sends around 11 to Harvard Med per year and Harvard sends around the same. It's not much preference; Harvard is fair.

Last year HMS accepted 26 Harvard students, with 18 matriculating.

 

[diosa428]

Class Statistics
There were 5,138 completed applications for the August 2008 entering class.
Annually, Harvard Medical School interviews between 800-1000 applicants for a class of 165.
All entrants took the MCAT and had baccalaureate degrees.
The class is made up of students:

• from 64 undergraduate institutions, 34 states and 13 foreign countries
• 66% of whom majored in the sciences
• 16% of whom were social science majors, and 7% of whom were humanities majors
• the age at entrance ranged from 21 to 36
• 49% are women, 51% are men
• 50% are students of color, and 18% of the student body are members of under-represented minority groups

165 seats and 64 undergraduate institutions represented gives an approximately 3 seat per institution average. Every school seems to show preference to students of the school's undergrad, but probably because they are familiar with the student's letter writers, familiar with the student, familiar with the rigor of the program, etc. I think MIT sends around 11 to Harvard Med per year and Harvard sends around the same. It's not much preference; Harvard is fair.

Yeah that's not really how it works. You'll still end up with large portions of the class being from Harvard, other Ivies, top LACs and top state schools (ie, Berkley) and like 1 student from each of the other 50 schools.

 

[flip26]

Class Statistics
There were 5,138 completed applications for the August 2008 entering class.
Annually, Harvard Medical School interviews between 800-1000 applicants for a class of 165.
All entrants took the MCAT and had baccalaureate degrees.
The class is made up of students:

• from 64 undergraduate institutions, 34 states and 13 foreign countries
• 66% of whom majored in the sciences
• 16% of whom were social science majors, and 7% of whom were humanities majors
• the age at entrance ranged from 21 to 36
• 49% are women, 51% are men
• 50% are students of color, and 18% of the student body are members of under-represented minority groups

165 seats and 64 undergraduate institutions represented gives an approximately 3 seat per institution average. Every school seems to show preference to students of the school's undergrad, but probably because they are familiar with the student's letter writers, familiar with the student, familiar with the rigor of the program, etc. I think MIT sends around 11 to Harvard Med per year and Harvard sends around the same. It's not much preference; Harvard is fair.

The per institution average is misleading if not totally meaningless...

For the OP: your best source of information is your school's pre-med office assuming they track grads and maintain stats on where people applied, got accepted, and then attended...chances are that once in a blue moon, someone from your school cracks the Top 10, but that is not going to mean much for your situation.

Apply broadly. Is your goal medical school, or a Top 10 medical school? If the latter, you are headed for a load of frustration and heartbreak no matter what undergrad you attended.

 

[mmmcdowe]

Lol Yale took exactly 30 kids from Harvard last year...14 of them matriculated. With 30 spots out of 200ish acceptances going to ONE school, I'd say Yale is definitely showing some undergrad bias. Statistically, going to Harvard or another Ivy gives you a better shot at Yale than going to any of the other *hundreds* of undergraduate institutions in the U.S.

And it has nothing to do with the quality of applicants? If you still have the sheet with you, who has more students accepted, Duke/Stanford or Dartmouth (I'd say Cornell, but they pump out so many applicants so I wouldn't be surprised if they were a major presence). If it's true that Dartmouth rocks out more Yale acceptances than Duke/Stanford, I'll concede that Yale has Ivy bias. Otherwise, in my mind its because of the fabulous quality of applicants such as yourself. Give yourself some credit, it's you not your school that is getting invites.

 

[longhorn09]

Why not ? It happens a lot every year.

 

[Dissected]

Maybe so many from Harvard and the other ivy league schools get in to these choice institutions because they are really super smart and dynamic people to begin with...Harvard has pretty rigorous undergrad entrance requirements, it seems like they are the cream of the crop to start with, and the top 30 pre-med kids that graduate are likely to have some pretty spectacular applications. I wouldn't necessarily look it as a 'school bias', its just a bunch of really smart, motivated people congregated in one place. So if its 'not about the institution you went to,' harvard, yale, blah blah blah would have no reason to turn down a fair number of their own school's applicants. . Thats the way I see it.

 

[WashMe]

Has anyone gotten into top 10 Med, from 4 tier undergraduate?

What is the best possible school to get into from low tier schools?

According to USNews, if that's what you're looking at, I went to a school that is "tier 1" but not ranked in the top 100 schools. I don't know how "bad" it looks to be from a tier 2-4 school, but I can say that my undergrad definitely did not help me get interviews/acceptances anywhere... Anyway, I was accepted last cycle to two "top 20" schools (1 "top 5") despite the fact that I never ran across anyone on the interview trail who knew anything about my school.

 

[JJMrK]

It still counts for something.

For instance, if a Harvard grad with a 42 MCAT and a 3.8 GPA and a East Tennessee State University (acceptance rate of 90%) with a 42 MCAT and a 3.8 GPA were both applying to the same school, the Harvard grad would have preference over the ETSU grad.

And you know this how? What if the ETSU grad was a better fit? You can't say this like it's a hard and fast rule, because nothing about medical school admissions is set in stone.

 

[Guest43236]

Someone from my no-name got into WashU. He interviewed at lots of top places and most of his interviewers had no idea where the school was. Had a 3.99 and a 39.

I heard some schools, specifically NW, are less likely to accept their own students.

HMS- the ivies are the ivies. TopSecret said, same stats, the guy from Harvard is going to get the nod. A Harvard degree doesn't carry as much weight if the world didn't know it's an ivy, and that, accurate or not, Harvard only takes the top students. Let's be honest, anyone who graduated from another institution be it Yale, or worst school in the US, could successfully complete the coursework at Harvard. The thing about Harvard, is its network. Employers know more likely than not, what leaves the school will be capable. When the first recruit from Harvard works out well, the employer is going to say "last harvard guy was good, let's go get another one." The cycle repeats.

There is a reciprocal relationship where employers, adcom, know the name Harvard and that top students go there. Students know a Harvard degree will (usually) take them further than adegree from somewhere else. The minute employers stop picking up Harvard grads, the Harvard degree will lose its value.

Here is the Jeopardy College Tournament Winners.
2009 - Notre Dame
2008 - Mississippi State
2007 - UCLA
2006 - Stanford
(2005 not listed)
2004 - Carnegie Mellon
2003 - Middlebury College
2002 - Texas A&M

The list goes back to 1989, and not a single winner came from an ivy. Yes, there are more non-ivy that ivy colleges by a landslide, but I was surprised.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeopardy!_College_Championship

 

[vickpick]

abt three years ago a kid from ECU went to harvard... so answer is yes, depending on what ECU is considered 4th or 3rd tier..

 

[Dissected]

Here is the Jeopardy College Tournament Winners.
2009 - Notre Dame
2008 - Mississippi State
2007 - UCLA
2006 - Stanford
(2005 not listed)
2004 - Carnegie Mellon
2003 - Middlebury College
2002 - Texas A&M

The list goes back to 1989, and not a single winner came from an ivy. Yes, there are more non-ivy that ivy colleges by a landslide, but I was surprised.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeopardy!_College_Championship

Wikipedia + Jeopardy winners. Hard evidence at its best.

 

[Beta Cell]

Someone from my no-name got into WashU. He interviewed at lots of top places and most of his interviewers had no idea where the school was. Had a 3.99 and a 39.

I heard some schools, specifically NW, are less likely to accept their own students.

HMS- the ivies are the ivies. TopSecret said, same stats, the guy from Harvard is going to get the nod. A Harvard degree doesn't carry as much weight if the world didn't know it's an ivy, and that, accurate or not, Harvard only takes the top students. Let's be honest, anyone who graduated from another institution be it Yale, or worst school in the US, could successfully complete the coursework at Harvard. The thing about Harvard, is its network. Employers know more likely than not, what leaves the school will be capable. When the first recruit from Harvard works out well, the employer is going to say "last harvard guy was good, let's go get another one." The cycle repeats.

There is a reciprocal relationship where employers, adcom, know the name Harvard and that top students go there. Students know a Harvard degree will (usually) take them further than adegree from somewhere else. The minute employers stop picking up Harvard grads, the Harvard degree will lose its value.

Here is the Jeopardy College Tournament Winners.
2009 - Notre Dame
2008 - Mississippi State
2007 - UCLA
2006 - Stanford
(2005 not listed)
2004 - Carnegie Mellon
2003 - Middlebury College
2002 - Texas A&M

The list goes back to 1989, and not a single winner came from an ivy. Yes, there are more non-ivy that ivy colleges by a landslide, but I was surprised.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeopardy!_College_Championship

That really sounds like you're talking about the same guy who posted on this thread, WashMe. I think he was OnlyNeedOneYes before. He had probably the most interesting application cycle of anyone I had seen last year. He had a 3.99 GPA (I believe it was 3.99 or very close) and a 39 MCAT. No acceptances until he got off two waitlists. Pretty awesome stuff, lol.

 

[WashMe]

That really sounds like you're talking about the same guy who posted on this thread, WashMe. I think he was OnlyNeedOneYes before. He had probably the most interesting application cycle of anyone I had seen last year. He had a 3.99 GPA (I believe it was 3.99 or very close) and a 39 MCAT. No acceptances until he got off two waitlists. Pretty awesome stuff, lol.

lol 👍

I didn't go to school w/ BetaCell though

 

[jla314]

Maybe so many from Harvard and the other ivy league schools get in to these choice institutions because they are really super smart and dynamic people to begin with...Harvard has pretty rigorous undergrad entrance requirements, it seems like they are the cream of the crop to start with, and the top 30 pre-med kids that graduate are likely to have some pretty spectacular applications. I wouldn't necessarily look it as a 'school bias', its just a bunch of really smart, motivated people congregated in one place. So if its 'not about the institution you went to,' harvard, yale, blah blah blah would have no reason to turn down a fair number of their own school's applicants. . Thats the way I see it.

I agree with you that my peers are incredibly talented and without question deserve to get in to medical school, but i know that going to a top tier school certainly gives you leeway with your numbers. Medical school applicants from harvard are accepted with lower gpa's than the national average for matriculants. according to our office of career services, 91% of harvard students who apply with a gpa of 3.3 or above get in to medical school. you can't tell me that a 3.3 from somewhere else would have the same rate of admission. nation-wide the acceptance rate to even *one* medical school hovers around 45-50%.

 

[Beta Cell]

I agree with you that my peers are incredibly talented and without question deserve to get in to medical school, but i know that going to a top tier school certainly gives you leeway with your numbers. Medical school applicants from harvard are accepted with lower gpa's than the national average for matriculants. according to our office of career services, 91% of harvard students who apply with a gpa of 3.3 or above get in to medical school. you can't tell me that a 3.3 from somewhere else would have the same rate of admission. nation-wide the acceptance rate to even *one* medical school hovers around 45-50%.

Harvard also offers a lot more unique opportunities than other schools do like Harvard/Princeton in Beijing, etc. It's not all a numbers game. You're insulting the rest of your classmates if you contend that they had an incredible amount of help from just the Harvard name rather than what the school itself has to offer.

 

[jla314]

And it has nothing to do with the quality of applicants? If you still have the sheet with you, who has more students accepted, Duke/Stanford or Dartmouth (I'd say Cornell, but they pump out so many applicants so I wouldn't be surprised if they were a major presence). If it's true that Dartmouth rocks out more Yale acceptances than Duke/Stanford, I'll concede that Yale has Ivy bias. Otherwise, in my mind its because of the fabulous quality of applicants such as yourself. Give yourself some credit, it's you not your school that is getting invites.

i think the quality of applicants from all the schools you listed are on par if not better than the quality of applicants from harvard. unfortunately the list i have is from harvard's office of career services and therefore only lists stats about harvard students 🙁

but i think for my earlier point i should have said 'top tier schools' to be more inclusive of the trends i've seen. for example, taking a quick look at vanderbilt's represented undergraduate schools (https://medschool.vanderbilt.edu/admissions/undergraduate-schools-represented), the numbers are heavily in favor of top tier school attendees.

and since we are talking about yale in particular, here is the list of undergraduate colleges represented (this list was given to me at my interview, and it only contains colleges from which 2 or more students enrolled):
BC - 2
Brown - 3
Columbia - 2
Cornell - 5
Duke - 3
Harvard - 14
MIT - 5
Stanford - 4
UCLA - 2
UGeorgia - 2
UPenn - 3
USC - 2
Vanderbilt -2
Yale - 10

again, it looks like you're better off if you've gone to a top tier school. I guess i have to take back my previous post and say that yale just disproportionally takes students from harvard and itself since they seem to not draw so much from the other ivies.

 

[ThaliaNox]

I think we're getting a bit off topic here, guys. Yes, the prestige of going to a great undergrad would probably help someone, but that's not what the OP is asking. He's asking if it is possible to get into top tier schools from a bottom rung school.

The answer, of course, is yes. I went to what may arguably be one of the lowest prestige schools in the midwest. Regardless of this fact we do just fine at getting into med school. 15 of us applied this year. 15 got in. Two went to University of Michigan. Last year someone went to Yale, another to Mayo. The same person who went to Mayo turned down U of M and Harvard. Someone else went to University of Michigan as well last year. It IS possible to go to a top tier school from a bottom tier undergrad.

OP, keep in mind that far more people APPLY from prestigious undergrads than nonprestigious ones. There were 15 senior pre-meds at my undergrad. How many were there at Harvard? Hundreds? Thousands? Of course there will be more medical students from these schools. Don't let the skewed numbers fool you.

 

[ChubbyChaser]

And you know this how? What if the ETSU grad was a better fit? You can't say this like it's a hard and fast rule, because nothing about medical school admissions is set in stone.

I think he was implying pretty much identical ppl just from different Undergrads🙄

 

[jla314]

Harvard also offers a lot more unique opportunities than other schools do like Harvard/Princeton in Beijing, etc. It's not all a numbers game. You're insulting the rest of your classmates if you contend that they had an incredible amount of help from just the Harvard name rather than what the school itself has to offer.

*sigh* i feel that i personally have been helped a lot by having gone to harvard. my EC's are weak. it wasnt my intention to insult the rest of my classmates, because as i've already said, they are incredibly and ridiculously talented people. many do take advantage of those really unique extracurricular opportunities you've mentioned, but i cant help but feel that harvard has done something for me in this admissions process since i have none of that.

 

[mmmcdowe]

i think the quality of applicants from all the schools you listed are on par if not better than the quality of applicants from harvard. unfortunately the list i have is from harvard's office of career services and therefore only lists stats about harvard students 🙁

but i think for my earlier point i should have said 'top tier schools' to be more inclusive of the trends i've seen. for example, taking a quick look at vanderbilt's represented undergraduate schools (https://medschool.vanderbilt.edu/admissions/undergraduate-schools-represented), the numbers are heavily in favor of top tier school attendees.

and since we are talking about yale in particular, here is the list of undergraduate colleges represented (this list was given to me at my interview, and it only contains colleges from which 2 or more students enrolled):
BC - 2
Brown - 3
Columbia - 2
Cornell - 5
Duke - 3
Harvard - 14
MIT - 5
Stanford - 4
UCLA - 2
UGeorgia - 2
UPenn - 3
USC - 2
Vanderbilt -2
Yale - 10

again, it looks like you're better off if you've gone to a top tier school. I guess i have to take back my previous post and say that yale just disproportionally takes students from harvard and itself since they seem to not draw so much from the other ivies.

Sorry, I should have clarified. I meant just the list that Yale gives you at your interview (no princeton? really!?).

I never doubted that more applicants from top schools go to top medical schools. What we are contending is WHY. Why does Harvard have 15 matriculants and Yale have 10 and MIT have 5. I argue that it is because of the superiority of their students, not the superiority of the schools name. However, this has been debated endlessly on SDN so lets not worry about that too much and instead let me wish you the best of luck getting in to your top choice medical school one way or another 😉.

 

[FuturaDocta]

Last year HMS accepted 26 Harvard students, with 18 matriculating.

That's it! I am transferring to Harvard right this minute.

Wikipedia + Jeopardy winners. Hard evidence at its best.

That would me amazing to have Jeopardy player as an EC. Even better would be winning the darn thing 😉

 

[WNT Signaling]

The list goes back to 1989, and not a single winner came from an ivy. Yes, there are more non-ivy that ivy colleges by a landslide, but I was surprised.

Yeah, but a lot of the winners were from top 20 schools that have equally excellent academic and institutional resources

Grinnell '94
Harvey Mudd '98
Chicago '99
Stanford '01
Middlebury '03
Carnegie Mellon '04
Stanford '06
Notre Dame '09

 

[Dissected]

I agree with you that my peers are incredibly talented and without question deserve to get in to medical school, but i know that going to a top tier school certainly gives you leeway with your numbers. Medical school applicants from harvard are accepted with lower gpa's than the national average for matriculants. according to our office of career services, 91% of harvard students who apply with a gpa of 3.3 or above get in to medical school. you can't tell me that a 3.3 from somewhere else would have the same rate of admission. nation-wide the acceptance rate to even *one* medical school hovers around 45-50%.

👍

 

[JJMrK]

I think he was implying pretty much identical ppl just from different Undergrads🙄

If he had said that I wouldn't have taken issue with it.

 

[kamran]

So can someone coming with tier 3-4(US News ranking) get into H/S/Y/JH?

With kill gpa,mcat,ECs....

 

[RogueUnicorn]

i think the quality of applicants from all the schools you listed are on par if not better than the quality of applicants from harvard. unfortunately the list i have is from harvard's office of career services and therefore only lists stats about harvard students 🙁

but i think for my earlier point i should have said 'top tier schools' to be more inclusive of the trends i've seen. for example, taking a quick look at vanderbilt's represented undergraduate schools (https://medschool.vanderbilt.edu/admissions/undergraduate-schools-represented), the numbers are heavily in favor of top tier school attendees.

and since we are talking about yale in particular, here is the list of undergraduate colleges represented (this list was given to me at my interview, and it only contains colleges from which 2 or more students enrolled):
BC - 2
Brown - 3
Columbia - 2
Cornell - 5
Duke - 3
Harvard - 14
MIT - 5
Stanford - 4
UCLA - 2
UGeorgia - 2
UPenn - 3
USC - 2
Vanderbilt -2
Yale - 10

again, it looks like you're better off if you've gone to a top tier school. I guess i have to take back my previous post and say that yale just disproportionally takes students from harvard and itself since they seem to not draw so much from the other ivies.

represent!!

 

[ChubbyChaser]

So can someone coming with tier 3-4(US News ranking) get into H/S/Y/JH?

With kill gpa,mcat,ECs....

Yes. Undergraduate institution does little to get you into med school. 90% of the reason why harvard has such a good track record at getting ppl in, is because they pick the smartest to attned their school, thus they are more likely to get good MCAT scores.

 

[MilkIsGood]

i go to a no name not flagship state university. this girl graduated last year and is now at yale med. another guy 2 years back went to mayo. it can be done. they were both extraordinary though

 

[JJMrK]

So can someone coming with tier 3-4(US News ranking) get into H/S/Y/JH?

With kill gpa,mcat,ECs....

Absolutely.

 

[Beta Cell]

*sigh* i feel that i personally have been helped a lot by having gone to harvard. my EC's are weak. it wasnt my intention to insult the rest of my classmates, because as i've already said, they are incredibly and ridiculously talented people. many do take advantage of those really unique extracurricular opportunities you've mentioned, but i cant help but feel that harvard has done something for me in this admissions process since i have none of that.

You have a 3.99 GPA and a 40 MCAT. Your success at attaining interviews isn't surprising.

 

[FirefighterDoc]

My undergraduate college has only 6 MDapps in the whole website. 1 this cycle, 3 M.D. acceptances and 2 D.O. acceptances. It looks like I have a tough road ahead of me lol



At least they all have acceptances SOMEWHERE right?.......................right?

 

[FuturaDocta]

My undergraduate college has only 6 MDapps in the whole website. 1 this cycle, 3 M.D. acceptances and 2 D.O. acceptances. It looks like I have a tough road ahead of me lol



At least they all have acceptances SOMEWHERE right?.......................right?

mdapps isn't a very reliable resource as far as statistics go. Relative to the amount of actual applicants, there are only a few people representing their schools. I mean, my school only has 6 total mdapps as well and there are a butt load going to med school each year. So, don't sweat it and mainly focus on yourself. As some people said before, the reason why Harvard and Yale students look like they have it easier is not because of the school itself, but because the student there are usually pretty smart anyway.