Health Concepts

[xxVixx]

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As you may know there are five main health concepts: physical, mental, spiritual, emotional and social. What are the challenges posed by those concepts held by health professionals and the general public? Any ideas? 🙂

 

[amaprez]

As you may know there are five main health concepts: physical, mental, spiritual, emotional and social. What are the challenges posed by those concepts held by health professionals and the general public? Any ideas? 🙂

 

[FuzionR]

This reminds me of an essay I wrote for a heath course.

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[PADPM]

As you may know there are five main health concepts: physical, mental, spiritual, emotional and social. What are the challenges posed by those concepts held by health professionals and the general public? Any ideas? 🙂

Answering that (those) questions could literally take hours and it's really not practical to answer in this forum, unless someone has way too much time available.

Sorry, I'd like to help but this one is basically a small project, not a simple response.

 

[347932]

This post is a little too "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" for me...and those of you who know me, know that's saying A LOT.

 

[flyhi]

What I wanted to try and express in words... which was impossible.

 

[Adam Smasher]

This reminds me: does studying for an MPH degree cause one to ask those questions? Or do those kinds of questions cause one to pursue an MPH? 😴

 

[amaprez]

This reminds me: does studying for an MPH degree cause one to ask those questions? Or do those kinds of questions cause one to pursue an MPH? 😴

More like a paper due tomorrow caused the OP to ask those questions

 

[flyhi]

More like a paper due tomorrow caused the OP to ask those questions

This 👍

 

[bobdolerson]

Hmm...

There's a lot of stigma attached inappropriately to a lot of things. I recall recently learning about psilocybin as a toxin to the brain, which is just not true.

There are a lot of walls that could be broken through for the benefit of the patient and the general public, but too many recently created close-minded barriers exist.

I'm not talking about "hey man, let's go shroom", I'm talking about the blank stares and disapproving looks when I attempt to bring up the efficacy of psilocybin as a means to occasion mystical experiences and mediate the attribution of personal meaning and significance, and how the studies have pointed to an increased sense of well being even 14 months after it's use.

Or studies that have pointed to psychedelic experiences with Ibogaine as an incredibly successful means to treat opiate addiction.

But hey...let's not talk about that....even controlled studies that point to it's beneficence are just for druggies and stoners. Not for the community of the suit-and-tie doctors who already know the answers.

I think psychedelics in controlled settings and more study regarding their usefulness would be one of the biggest changes to increase the national sense of general well-being.

Let me be clear; this isn't a push for the decriminalization of marijuana (for some reason that crap always permeates any legitimate discussion of this sort...). My political views regarding civil liberties and personal responsibilities aside, more studies should be done into these things, and aren't being done. The evidence is there, but so is the stigma, and until a lot of that changes, we're stuck in this close-minded place.

 

[Ferocity]

Hmm...

There's a lot of stigma attached inappropriately to a lot of things. I recall recently learning about psilocybin as a toxin to the brain, which is just not true.

There are a lot of walls that could be broken through for the benefit of the patient and the general public, but too many recently created close-minded barriers exist.

I'm not talking about "hey man, let's go shroom", I'm talking about the blank stares and disapproving looks when I attempt to bring up the efficacy of psilocybin as a means to occasion mystical experiences and mediate the attribution of personal meaning and significance, and how the studies have pointed to an increased sense of well being even 14 months after it's use.

Or studies that have pointed to psychedelic experiences with Ibogaine as an incredibly successful means to treat opiate addiction.

But hey...let's not talk about that....even controlled studies that point to it's beneficence are just for druggies and stoners. Not for the community of the suit-and-tie doctors who already know the answers.

I think psychedelics in controlled settings and more study regarding their usefulness would be one of the biggest changes to increase the national sense of general well-being.

Let me be clear; this isn't a push for the decriminalization of marijuana (for some reason that crap always permeates any legitimate discussion of this sort...). My political views regarding civil liberties and personal responsibilities aside, more studies should be done into these things, and aren't being done. The evidence is there, but so is the stigma, and until a lot of that changes, we're stuck in this close-minded place.

I concur.

 

[Adam Smasher]

As you may know there are five main health concepts: physical, mental, spiritual, emotional and social. What are the challenges posed by those concepts held by health professionals and the general public? Any ideas? 🙂

I've been thinking about this a lot over the past day. Not actually trying to answer the question, mind you, but rather the nature of the question being asked.

See, the OP will almost assuredly become a healthcare administrator. He is already speaking their language. It's not so bad per se. It's a great way to get involved in healthcare without the messy business of learning basic sciences or interacting with patients. You just need to be well-intentioned but paternalistic, and enjoy stringing words together. You find some likeminded individuals, attend catered lunch meetings, and produce reams of paper together full of words that don't mean a whole lot.

Take the OP's first sentence. He's asking about health concepts. If pressed, I could probably define the words "health" and "concept," but this is the first I've ever heard of "health concepts." It's probably something somebody cooked up in order to publish a paper to justify their tenure tracked position in a University.

Furthermore, he lists not 4, not 6, but 5 health concepts. To make a good list, its contents should be mutually exclusive and exhaustive. For instance, in a podiatry progress note, we usually cover 4 systems (integument, vascular, nervous, and musculoskeletal). Objective findings usually fall into one, and only one, of these 4 systems. Sure, we might mention a psychiatric finding if a patient seems a little off, but those 4 systems are basically all we need.

So how do we categorize, for example, "financial health?" Is it included? We clearly can't add it as another health concept because then there would be 6 items, and 6 is a much less interesting number than 5. Is financial health part of social health or mental health or emotional health? The answer of course is that it doesn't matter because this is a bunch of nonsense anyway.

This brings me to the second sentence. I had to read it 3 times to understand it! Certainly, it's grammatically correct, but we can tell the OP loves layering on the participial phrases. In fact, complicated sentence structure is an administrator's best friend, since it bores and confuses the reader into believing that real content is present. An old adage is apropriate: "If you can't dazzle em with brilliance, baffle em with baloney."

 

[347932]

"If you can't dazzle em with brilliance, baffle em with baloney."

This might just be my new sig...

 

[Adam Smasher]

It's actually a sanitized version of the original quote, but you can probably imagine what goes in place of "baloney."

 

[PADPM]

Actually, the original question sounded more like a student asking for advice for a research paper he/she was given.