Heart question and plz dont tell me to google it cos I already did and still don

[alysp13751]

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Ok so subepicardial fat is between the myocardium and the visceral layer of pericardium? I remember the teacher showing us the visceral pericardium in the dissection room and it was shiny and attached to the myocardium, you def couldnt see fat there, so how the hell is there adipose tissue under it? Moreover, I read online that pericardial fat is basically between the visceral pericardium and parietal pericardium so this means it is in the pericardial cavity? I thought there was nothin in the pericardial cavity BUT a couple of ml of fluid. So what is the correct answer, I read everywhere subepicardial fat is under the visceral pericardium but I couldnt see it in the dissection? clear this up for me plz

 

[jdh71]

I'm curious why you care so much?

 

[alysp13751]

I'm curious why you care so much?

because I wanna get an A? hope youre not srs

 

[redsquareblack]

Well, if, as you say, you "read everywhere subepicardial fat is under the visceral pericardium", then...

 

[SitraAchra]

What a whiny baby. Do your own homework and if you have a question then email your anatomy professor.

 

[alysp13751]

it takes the same effort to answer my question than to write I am a whiny baby etc etc unless you dont know ofc

 

[dyeguy21]

You are mixing up two different areas of subpericardial fat. There is the epicardial fat and the pericardial fat.

Epicardial fat is located between the outer wall of the myocardium and the visceral layer of pericardium. Pericardial fat is anterior to the epicardial fat and therefore located between visceral and parietal pericardium.

To help: http://www.nature.com/oby/journal/v17/n4/full/oby2008575a.html

Third paragraph is most helpful.

 

[dr zaius]

I'm curious why you care so much?

This has to be extremely clinically relevant, right? 🙄

 

[Morsetlis]

You are mixing up two different areas of subpericardial fat. There is the epicardial fat and the pericardial fat.

Epicardial fat is located between the outer wall of the myocardium and the visceral layer of pericardium. Pericardial fat is anterior to the epicardial fat and therefore located between visceral and parietal pericardium.

To help: http://www.nature.com/oby/journal/v17/n4/full/oby2008575a.html

Third paragraph is most helpful.

Please god don't let me forget this tomorrow.

👍

 

[alysp13751]

You are mixing up two different areas of subpericardial fat. There is the epicardial fat and the pericardial fat.

Epicardial fat is located between the outer wall of the myocardium and the visceral layer of pericardium. Pericardial fat is anterior to the epicardial fat and therefore located between visceral and parietal pericardium.

To help: http://www.nature.com/oby/journal/v17/n4/full/oby2008575a.html

Third paragraph is most helpful.

I just thought is bizarre that there is adipose tissue in the pericardial cavity, I thought it was just a virtual space with a couple ml of fluid. Thank you for the link

 

[TallScrubs]

because I wanna get an A? hope youre not srs

We hope you're not 'srs'. Plenty of people have honored classes, gotten great residencies, etc. without knowing this highly irrelevant fact. No reason to be pissy.

 

[JackShephard MD]

I'm curious why you care so much?

+1.

I've run into a lot of students in my class who discuss and fight over the smallest and irrelevant details of courses. I'm always amazed at how much they concentrate on these things. Board prep may be miserable for these people.

 

[alysp13751]

+1.

I've run into a lot of students in my class who discuss and fight over the smallest and irrelevant details of courses. I'm always amazed at how much they concentrate on these things. Board prep may be miserable for these people.

you never know what is small and what is important, I dont think is a problem to want clear concepts in your head, but to each their own

 

[JackShephard MD]

you never know what is small and what is important, I dont think is a problem to want clear concepts in your head, but to each their own

Yes you do. There are review books, First Aid, and other high yield sources that tell you what is important and what isn't. Also, these often have clinical correlations while you learn the basic sciences. Not knowing is a choice.

 

[jdh71]

because I wanna get an A? hope youre not srs

if you want an A, pay attention to, oh, I don't know, actually important things

lawl

 

[jdh71]

This has to be extremely clinically relevant, right? 🙄

+1.

I've run into a lot of students in my class who discuss and fight over the smallest and irrelevant details of courses. I'm always amazed at how much they concentrate on these things. Board prep may be miserable for these people.

How else are you supposed to get into urology?!?!

 

[Mr Cookie Pants]

This is highly interesting to me because as a PGY 17 doing pediatric surgical electrocardioncology, I have taken quite a keen interest in the subpericardal fat and all the many, as you well know, highly clinically relevant disorders of said fat. I got a NIH R21 to study it. Would you be interested in joining my laboratory?

 

[loveoforganic]

Why are y'all being douchey? It's just a question, albeit asked a little annoyingly. Plenty of the crap we need to know is surely at best barely relevant to daily clinical practice, but it still may show up on the test of the month, soooo....

 

[Rendar5]

Why are y'all being douchey? It's just a question, albeit asked a little annoyingly. Plenty of the crap we need to know is surely at best barely relevant to daily clinical practice, but it still may show up on the test of the month, soooo....

I think the point is that this isn't really a test-worthy question that warrants any effort.

 

[redsquareblack]

+1.

I've run into a lot of students in my class who discuss and fight over the smallest and irrelevant details of courses. I'm always amazed at how much they concentrate on these things. Board prep may be miserable for these people.

Sayre's Law, Jack.

"In any dispute the intensity of feeling is inversely proportional to the value of the issues at stake."

 

[JackShephard MD]

Sayre's Law, Jack.

"In any dispute the intensity of feeling is inversely proportional to the value of the issues at stake."

Wow. Very true.

 

[alysp13751]

so hows the question asked annoyingly? english is not my first language, sorry

 

[alysp13751]

if you want an A, pay attention to, oh, I don't know, actually important things

lawl

I pay attention to everything, and Im doing pretty good as it is, so I do not think I should be changing my method

 

[silverlion]

Wow! I really do not understand why these people decided to criticize the question so much, If you don't know the answer then move on. God help us if all these nay-sayers are actually in med school!