HELP !!! bad record, kicked out of residency... what to do next ???

[upchit]

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Jesus Christ, there is some bad advice being ddispensed on this thread. My personal belief is that if you do not try you will fail. Is he a tough sell with slim chances? Yeah. But since everyone gang piled on, you convinced him to not even try. Good job, SDN.

Here's the reality. If he sits out any time at all, his chances fall dramatically. You either get back in now ...or never. I mean unless he does something crazy like win a Nobel Prize.

How about apply for a prelim spot and prove you can cut it? And instead of busting on the guy, how about understanding that a program such as he described is a tough program? It's clearly a crap program that is like training in a foreign country that makes an AMG the "cultural outsider." And such programs are generally heavily dependent on high in-service scores to look at all acceptable. So anyone who scores low would get the axe.

If you're still around, OP, PM me and we'll discuss strategies. Good luck.

This story sounds concerning for a personality disorder traits. I'd recommend s/he get counseling. While axis 2 diagnoses are not "curable," therapy might help the op get some insight on what his/her own destructive behaviors are and give tools for improvement. Just my 2 cents, but I've seen it help many military members with similar issues adapt and be able to succeed at their jobs.

 

[michaelrack]

I think this thread has touched on something very important but hasn't really addressed it.

Most people make it through training of some sort and have a career and can support themselves. But what happens to the very small fraction who actually wash out (not most of the people who start these posts and end up finding something somewhere and moving on) but rather the statistically 1 in 300 or so who fails multiple years of medical school, fails step exams, has to keep petitioning for advancement, can't interact with patients, gets busted cheating/committing crimes and actually gets barred from completing residency?

But regardless, it is "game over" and some point. There are numerous one line comments in this thread about "you are done" "it's over" etc. Well, then what? Does this person work at Wal-mart forever? Is it time to do the double-barrel inhaler?

Thoughts?

It is closer to 1 in 100 than 1 in 300. Those who wash out and are unable to complete internship/get licensed are in a tough situation. They have the same options as anyone else with a college degree. Maybe Walmart, but probably not forever. In the old days plenty of people with and without college degrees started off in menial jobs and worked their way up. Things are harder today in the Bush-Obama economy, but there are still a lot of people with college degrees doing well.

 

[DrT2202]

If you wake up and go outside and meet a jerk then you've met a jerk. If you go through the day and all you meet are jerks, then you're the jerk.

This is an excellent saying. I'll make sure 2 remember that.

 

[Dr Tony T. Chopper]

I believe the original version of that saying replaces jerk with a-hole. Haha

This is an excellent saying. I'll make sure 2 remember that.