help guys

[liya]

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Hi everyone,
I was so happy yesterday I got an acceptance letter from U-Penn which was my top choice. However, I also was accepted to NYUCD and now I am all confused. I live in NY and dont' know if It is really worth leaving NY. I want to specialize and I know U-Penn is probably the best for it. But, I also hear its research based. Can anybody give me any insight on these two schools? Also does anybody know how the atmosphere is in those schools? Thanks🙂

 

[quantumhead]

If you have in-state tuition in NY my advice is to stay there!!!

1. How do you know what you want to specialize in? You haven't even started!

2. If you do want to specialize bad enough it will happen, but you have to get your DDS/DMD first.

3. If you have $250K in debt because of out of state tuition then you specialization may not even be an option for you.

Go in state if you can, save a buck or two.

 

[DesiDentist]

Liya:

Congrats on your PENN acceptance.

If you are choosing between NYU or PENN come to PENN. PENN is awesome. I will be going there. PENN gets more people into specialties than any other school in the nation. Also, PENN is Ivy League. Unless, you get a scholarship PENN is cheaper than NYU.

See my posts on the pre-dental forum about PENN. I hope you join us.

If you have any more questions PM or email me anytime.

DesiDentist

 

[DesiDentist]

PENN is researched based if you want it to be. If you want to specialize you have to do some research, either it is at NYU or PENN. PENN is better for it though.

NYU, I know kicks students out each year for not hitting their minimum requirements. If you fail a test at PENN you will get personal tutors to aid you. They really look out for you.

NYU is too big. With over 280 students you can't get that faculty interaction. When time comes to get recommendation letters for externships and specialties who will you ask at NYU when there are so many students there?

DesiDentist

 

[pandaman]

Actually, NYU is big, but not over 280! It's more like 220-230.
Also I have a friend who goes there, and he says the tutor service is available if you sign up. good luck.

 

[DesiDentist]

with 120 advanced standing and 230 new students that is 350 students. NYU has enough seats for 230, but accepts more kicking out the excess (30-40).

DesiDentist

 

[gryffindor]

DesiDentist - How is Penn Dental being in the Ivy League help a pre-dent's decision to attend there? I really don't think anyone cares in dentistry about the Ivy League. Medicine, maybe cares. Law, definitely cares. Every student I have met from Harvard, Columbia, and Penn Dental schools never mention that their schools are in the Ivy league. Undergraduates from the Ivy League schools - different story. They seem to pride the Ivy League classification and make sure to mention all the connections that are supposed to go with it.

 

[DesiDentist]

griffin:

When I was at PENN I asked several students why they chose PENN and they all said: reputation and its Ivy League status. Even Dr. Emling, dean of admissions mentioned to us that PENN was Ivy League.

It may not matter what school you graduate from, but it matter's to me. Each person is different. I am just letting liya know my opinions and if she is choosing between PENN vs NYU she should pick PENN.

If you had a decision between two schools that cost almost the same (NYU is more expensive), but one is much more prestigious then the other and gets more people into specialty programs than any other dental school, which would you pick?

Now, it is up to Liya to decide if it is worth it to leave NYC!

If someone wants to defend NYU, please do. Liya would appreciate that.

DesiDentist

 

[liya]

Hi, everyone. Thank you so much for replying. You deffinetly helped me finalize my decision. I think I am going to stick with U-penn. Also, I hear some people saying that it is much harder to earn a good GPA in U-penn than in NYU, and I think thats good, bacause that just shows how well they prepare you for the profession. However, I am terrified of my coming up first year at U-penn.

 

[liya]

Can anyone tell me is it cheaper to live on campus or off?thanks

 

[DesiDentist]

Liya:

Congrats on your decision. You should not be terrified. I met so many people (non-science majors, infact) who said that as long as you put in your time you should do well in your classes. Most of them said that they have never gotten below a B in any class.

Yeah, its gonna be hard, but so is dental school at NYU. We'll have a blast. I believe living on campus is comparable to living off campus. However, you can find cheaper apts if you live off campus.

Please email me or PM me if you have any other concerns.

DesiDentist

 

[liya]

hey guys, does U-PENN have a white coat ceremony? Thats really weird if they don't😕

 

[Pi__Guy1]

If you want to specialize, I personally think you have to choose a school where you can do well. ie: get a high GPA and class rank. Boards are up to you to study for. It's kinda like the DATs...you can go to a terrible undergrad, but still do very well on the DATs.

With that in mind my roomate and I were talking about how lucky we are at NYU to have such a "relaxed" schedule compared to other dental schools. Our schedule/curriculum here is better suited for me. We don't go from 9-5 M-F. That would just drain the hell out of me. Instead, we always have an 8am but most days we have a 4 hour break between classes b/c they split our 230 students up into 2 groups....so the first group goes to Sim lab (or anatomy lab), while the 2nd group goes in the afternoon.

Also, most schools cram biochem, histo, anatomy, and their respective labs all at once. Here, they split it up. So biochem would be for X weeks, then after that, histo starts, etc... I'm really glad b/c I can definitely concentrate on one subject at a time....

Liya, good luck at Penn! Study hard there...dental school is hard no matter where you go. Remember, if you want to specialize, they also look at your class rank....so know your competition. Personally, I just want to get the hell out of dental school at practice....


Desi:
now that's an unbiased, nonderogatory, objective approach for a response. Leave the NYU insight to people that actually go to the school. Are you taking notes? Good.

 

[DesiDentist]

PENN is not 8-5, classes are similarily divided so you can have a good amount of exposure. If you don't believe me, open your packet you got during the interview and see that no test overlaps, they don't even have final weeks. So PENN does not have a "block" system of classes where everything is crammed into 15 weeks like most schools. Most of the classes start at 10 am and end at 4 pm. We don't have summer classes.

PENN sends more students into specialties than any other school in the nation. So they must be doing something right. Like Pi_Guy said: dental school is hard wherever you go. However, when your taking classes with some of the brightest students in the country you, yourself learn to be just like them.

It is a well known fact, if you put yourself in an environment where your competition is more demanding it makes you learn much better.

You made the right choice, don't even think twice about it. I had similar feelings but it just felt right. Most of the students said that the classes are demanding but not impossible. Most of it is time management.

DesiDentist

 

[liya]

Originally posted by DesiDentist
PENN sends more students into specialties than any other school in the nation. So they must be doing something right. Like
DesiDentist

Thank you Pi-Guy for your insight, but I think I am going to stick with you U-PENN. It's once in a lifetime opportunity and I have to take it. Besides for me to do well I have to be in competitive environment. Ok now can anyone tell me does U-PENN have white coat ceremony? Thanks🙂

 

[DesiDentist]

Hey Liya:

I've sent an email off to Corky Cacas asking if we have a white coat ceremony. We should be getting more information soon this month.

Yes, you are right: It is a once in a lifetime opportunity to attend PENN!

Look forward to seeing you this August.

DesiDentist

 

[Kung Foo]

Liya, DesiDentist,

Congrats on your dental school acceptances. You're both so hopeful, so eager, just like adorable bright-eyed puppies!

In a year from now, you will not care one smidgen whether there was or was not a white coat ceremony during orientation.. when they make dental school sound so fun and rosy.... ahahahahhahahah

p.s. good luck with that whole "never getting below a B in any class thing" ... people in your class, and maybe you, will make decisions about their future professional lives and study accordingly. In the end everyone you go to school with will be a successful professional.......... some just won't have fought and clawed as hard in school

***lol - my attitude since the beginning of this FIRST year has changed dramatically - all this fighting for good grades is wearing me out! It's a whole different world from undergrad...you'll figure it out***

 

[DesiDentist]

Thanks Kung Foo,

Right now everyone, including myself, isvery excited and proud of the school we are going to next year. However, I do agree when the games begin I shall be humbled and all those "frivolous" things like ceremonies or name of the school will not mean too much.

Regards,

DesiDentist