help..im getting a C

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Im gettin' a C at my chem 141 class :scared: , shoud I retake the class ? ,
......I got the C 'cause of my busy scheduale...Im takin chem141 , bio 150 , bio 152 , and pol-sci...i've done well at the other 3...except 4 the chem..!!
 
Don't sweat it. I received a C in general chem II - I was young, too much on my plate, yadda yadda - and I did alright. It only came up in a couple of interviews and I basically gave the same, but more eloquent, answer to which my interviewers reacted favorably. The important thing is not to make a habit out of earning C's. 👍
 
I can one-up you there. I got a D in orgo II, and just retook the class. I think I might have gotten a C. I dont believe it, but the class kicked my butt. Prof graded very strict, and I felt I knew the material but ended up not knowing it so well on the test. What do you guys think. Screwed?
 
Yellow-Jellow said:
Im gettin' a C at my chem 141 class :scared: , shoud I retake the class ? ,
......I got the C 'cause of my busy scheduale...Im takin chem141 , bio 150 , bio 152 , and pol-sci...i've done well at the other 3...except 4 the chem..!!

I am on my way to getting a C unless I do decent on this biochem final!! ARRGHHH :laugh: Oh...you thought I cared that I was getting a C? LOL...NOPE. :meanie:
 
I made about 8 C's in college. You're chillin like a villain with 1.
 
Counting mine... yea 18 total. 😱 😱 😱 😱
 
Yellow-Jellow said:
Im gettin' a C at my chem 141 class :scared: , shoud I retake the class ? ,
......I got the C 'cause of my busy scheduale...Im takin chem141 , bio 150 , bio 152 , and pol-sci...i've done well at the other 3...except 4 the chem..!!

Is that a busy schedule? It looks like 12 hours ...
 
My new moto (after getting accepted into Dental school):
C's get degrees and D is for dentist.
 
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Yellow-Jellow said:
Im gettin' a C at my chem 141 class :scared: , shoud I retake the class ? ,
......I got the C 'cause of my busy scheduale...Im takin chem141 , bio 150 , bio 152 , and pol-sci...i've done well at the other 3...except 4 the chem..!!

You're screwed. You might as well give up and apply to pharm or optometry school instead. 🙂
 
souperman said:
My new moto (after getting accepted into Dental school):
C's get degrees and D is for dentist.

nah

C = continue
D = you're done
F = you're f*cked
 
CJWolf said:
nah

C = continue
D = you're done
F = you're f*cked
My orgo I prof said the first day of class "This class is what separates the doctors from the dentists." What's that supposed to mean 😕
 
IcemanDDS said:
My orgo I prof said the first day of class "This class is what separates the doctors from the dentists." What's that supposed to mean 😕


wow... i'd be pretty offended if i heard that. i might even mention that it was offensive.
 
organichemistry said:
wow... i'd be pretty offended if i heard that. i might even mention that it was offensive.

It probably means that med students generally have higher college transcripts than dental students.

That's not offensive, it's a fact.
 
IcemanDDS said:
My orgo I prof said the first day of class "This class is what separates the doctors from the dentists." What's that supposed to mean 😕

You should stood up said F U mo fo!


you know the saying those that can't, teach!

Should said, This class is what separates the doctors from the high school/college teachers.
 
hockeydentist said:
You should stood up said F U mo fo!


you know the saying those that can't, teach!

Should said, This class is what separates the doctors from the high school/college teachers.


well i made an A in organic chemistry I and i know plenty of pre-meds who didn't. that's why i find the statement offensive... fact is, dental students have better GPA's than osteopathic students. there are stellar dental students and stellar medical students. to generalize dental school students as students who didn't quite cut it in pre-med is very offensive. i am well into pre-dentistry and could easily switch back to pre-med, apply, and get accepted ahead of a lot of pre-meds i know.
 
organichemistry said:
well i made an A in organic chemistry I and i know plenty of pre-meds who didn't. that's why i find the statement offensive... fact is, dental students have better GPA's than osteopathic students. there are stellar dental students and stellar medical students. to generalize dental school students as students who didn't quite cut it in pre-med is very offensive. i am well into pre-dentistry and could easily switch back to pre-med, apply, and get accepted ahead of a lot of pre-meds i know.

I understand where you are coming from, and I would be pissed if I heard a teacher make that kind of comment. That being said, almost all students who get into a medical program in the US could have gotten into some dental school. However, there would be many students who got into dental school who would not be admitted to a US medical school. Just look at the numbers. Sure, there are many, many exceptions...but for the most part, gaining admission to medical school is a crapload harder than gaining admission to dental school.
 
yellow jellow,

you'll be fine, just keep the rest of the grades up. my BCP was only a 3.0 and i had plenty of C's littered throughout the science classes (both semesters of orgo, one semester of bio, and more). i still got interview invites from virtually all of the schools i applied to, and i got into my top choice. as long as your overall gpa is good enough to get past the first screening, you're good to go.
 
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Yellow-Jellow said:
Im gettin' a C at my chem 141 class :scared: , shoud I retake the class ?
Shouldn't you be concentrating on acing the final first?

Figure sh't out after all the cards are dealt. You might end up with a bigger hand.
Yellow-Jellow said:
I got the C 'cause of my busy scheduale...Im takin chem141 , bio 150 , bio 152 , and pol-sci
Please spare us that "Busy" B-sh't. All Pre-Med's and Pre-Dent's go through the same sh't.
 
organichemistry said:
well i made an A in organic chemistry I and i know plenty of pre-meds who didn't. that's why i find the statement offensive... fact is, dental students have better GPA's than osteopathic students. there are stellar dental students and stellar medical students. to generalize dental school students as students who didn't quite cut it in pre-med is very offensive. i am well into pre-dentistry and could easily switch back to pre-med, apply, and get accepted ahead of a lot of pre-meds i know.

Agreed. I did an A on O Chem I/II too. O Chem must have seperated him from medical school and graduate school. Just a little bitter I guess. So he takes it out on us?
 
thanx for all the replays....i DO have a busy scheduale , i work 4o hrs per week , shadowing a dentist (5-6) hrs 3 days a week..also my school ( 17 crdt)....i'm not makin excuses , but i felt bad 4 gettin' the C ...and didnt know what to do!!.thanx again!
 
organichemistry said:
well i made an A in organic chemistry I and i know plenty of pre-meds who didn't. that's why i find the statement offensive... fact is, dental students have better GPA's than osteopathic students. there are stellar dental students and stellar medical students. to generalize dental school students as students who didn't quite cut it in pre-med is very offensive. i am well into pre-dentistry and could easily switch back to pre-med, apply, and get accepted ahead of a lot of pre-meds i know.


DITTO, same here. HIGH FIVE 🙂 !
 
I have so many Cs, more Cs than As. And I am damn proud of every one of those C's, and the diseffort it took to get them, and the fact that I went to the library less than 10 times my entire undergrad career.

to the OP, dont' sweat it, life goes on.
 
In post bac right now. Got C in orgo II (D before), B in med. genetics, B in span II. I"m just gonna continue to try hard and not worry about this semester too much. Can't get discouraged. :luck:
 
dude, this is dental school.

C's are pretty common on the undergrad transcript of many a dental student. i think i have at least 4 C-'s and 1 D along with few W's. just chill!

i go to a pretty decent school too. just rock the DAT's and go help some poor people in the process.
 
Don't make any more C's and be serious for next classes.

I got 2 C's in college but I got into Dental School. (But my overall GPA was okay 3.7)

So, be serious and don't play around too much.

👍
 
penguinteeth said:
Don't make any more C's and be serious for next classes.

I got 2 C's in college but I got into Dental School. (But my overall GPA was okay 3.7)

So, be serious and don't play around too much.

👍

A 3.7 is more than "okay", that's a great gpa! 👍

For those of you who have C's, D's or W's on your transcript, did any of you get into a dental school without re-taking courses, taking more science classes or going to a post-bacc program?
 
organichemistry said:
fact is, dental students have better GPA's than osteopathic students. .

Do you have a source for this? I will bluntly say this is a false statement. In addition, I hear people getting into osteopathic medical schools with a 25 MCAT and on a previous thread of people who took both the MCAT and DAT, a 25 MCAT is in the 20's on the DAT = acceptance to dental school. I would like to see a source to your statement though.
 
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yeah, it's definitely not a true statement. premed people "generally" have higher GPA's overall than dental students. not always true, but generally is.
 
IcemanDDS said:
My orgo I prof said the first day of class "This class is what separates the doctors from the dentists." What's that supposed to mean 😕
I'm typically a VERY laid back guy who doesn't take many things too personally. But if he said that on the fist day I would have told him to go "**** himself" in front of the whole class. Then I would have switched professors
 
CJWolf said:
yeah, it's definitely not a true statement. premed people "generally" have higher GPA's overall than dental students. not always true, but generally is.

Speaking from my own personal experience I did find it interesting that usually the top grades in my upper-division science courses went to pre-dental students. Sure pre-med students earned good grades while I was taking my pre-reqs but they were also more likely to be the ones flipping out in the halls before and after an exam, dripping with drama, hording notes and information lest they give someone else an 'advantage' and engaging in other such counter-productive and stressful behavior.
 
PreDentJennifer said:
Do you have a source for this? I will bluntly say this is a false statement. In addition, I hear people getting into osteopathic medical schools with a 25 MCAT and on a previous thread of people who took both the MCAT and DAT, a 25 MCAT is in the 20's on the DAT = acceptance to dental school. I would like to see a source to your statement though.
When I took the DAT I studied with guys taking the MCAT. I think I knew my stuff a little better then them (not trying to be concieted even they admitted it), I got a 24 on the DAT, they got 30 - 35 on MCAT.
 
gtl4f said:
A 3.7 is more than "okay", that's a great gpa! 👍

For those of you who have C's, D's or W's on your transcript, did any of you get into a dental school without re-taking courses, taking more science classes or going to a post-bacc program?

Yea I was wondering the same thing. Anybody?
 
Can someone tell me what would happen if I repeated a course I got a D in and then got an A the second time around? Do they scratch the 1st attempt in the gpa calculation or are the 2 marks averaged? Also does anyone know if summer courses count towards your gpa? I have taken Biology of Fungi, and a thesis course and was wondering since it is not on the "sciences list" if it is counted? even though it is a biology.....
Thanks fo ur help
 
Copacetic52 said:
Yea I was wondering the same thing. Anybody?
The odd C here or there is no big deal. I applied so late in the cycle it's not even funny, and with a C- in first-semester organic chem lab. When they asked about it in my interview, I just told them the truth--it was a Thursday 8AM class the day after newspaper production night. I was second in charge of the paper that fall, which meant I was up till 4-5AM every Wednesday night. They accepted it at face value, and it apparently didn't hurt my candidacy. I know plenty of classmates who got in with W's, too. D's are more of a problem and ought to be retaken, but if you do well on the retake it will reflect positively on your application. Good luck!
 
Do you reall make grades? I thought you earn or receive grades. Sounds funny to me but everyone has been saying make - is that right? 😕
 
SMC2UCLA2_ said:
Do you reall make grades? I thought you earn or receive grades. Sounds funny to me but everyone has been saying make - is that right? 😕

sorry posted this twice
 
SMC2UCLA2_ said:
Do you reall make grades? I thought you earn or receive grades. Sounds funny to me but everyone has been saying make - is that right? 😕

Yea your're right, earning the grade sounds better...After all, most of us do work extremely hard at getting a good mark. Can someone also answer thiis: what happens if an F given, does it get calculated into the GPA? and what if you retook it and you earned B, does this get averaged into the GPA, or would the 2nd attempt be counted primarily?

sorry for the many GPA questions, I am really not familiar with it....(wishing there was a guidline I could follow on the ADA site).
 
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Jaba said:
Can someone also answer thiis: what happens if an F given, does it get calculated into the GPA? and what if you retook it and you earned B, does this get averaged into the GPA, or would the 2nd attempt be counted primarily?
AADSAS includes all grades even if your college doesn't. So an F (0.0) retaken for a B (3.0) is the equivalent of receiving two grades of C-/D+ (1.5)
 
syn_apse said:
AADSAS includes all grades even if your college doesn't. So an F (0.0) retaken for a B (3.0) is the equivalent of receiving two grades of C-/D+ (1.5)

So let me get this right, if I took ie. a full year of chemistry and got an F and I would then repeat the course and get a B, this would count as doing 2 full credits and not just 1 full credit (and averaging them together).

also, is this the chart all universities use? Because I have seen some that round up to the nearest whole number??
http://www.bauer.uh.edu/undergraduate/gpa.htm

Thanks for any further input.
 
Jaba said:
So let me get this right, if I took ie. a full year of chemistry and got an F and I would then repeat the course and get a B, this would count as doing 2 full credits and not just 1 full credit (and averaging them together).

also, is this the chart all universities use? Because I have seen some that round up to the nearest whole number??
http://www.bauer.uh.edu/undergraduate/gpa.htm

Thanks for any further input.

No, some universities count a B+ as a 3.5 but I'm pretty sure AADSAS will re-calculate it as a 3.33. Other universities completely did away with an A- and getting a 90 in a class is equal to a 4.0.
 
beastly115 said:
No, some universities count a B+ as a 3.5 but I'm pretty sure AADSAS will re-calculate it as a 3.33. Other universities completely did away with an A- and getting a 90 in a class is equal to a 4.0.

Ok good to know.... but lets say you had a full year course with an F and then a B, would that be counted as 2 full credits, or just 1 (because it was passed the second time around).

Thnx
 
Jaba said:
So let me get this right, if I took ie. a full year of chemistry and got an F and I would then repeat the course and get a B, this would count as doing 2 full credits and not just 1 full credit (and averaging them together).

also, is this the chart all universities use? Because I have seen some that round up to the nearest whole number??
http://www.bauer.uh.edu/undergraduate/gpa.htm

Thanks for any further input.

I think every university is different. I went to Baylor University, and they graded like this:

A = 4.0
B+ = 3.5
B = 3.0
C+ = 2.5
C = 2.0
and so forth

The problem is that the Texas Application Service only counts B+'s as B's - so it lowers your GPA when applying to dent or med school if you have some B+'s.
 
Now what if I had a F and then I cancelled/withdrew the class and got it as "incomplete"? that's not counted in my GPA right? Wouldnt that be a good idea to do it rather than getting an F and suffer from a low gpa?
 
binsbts said:
Now what if I had a F and then I cancelled/withdrew the class and got it as "incomplete"? that's not counted in my GPA right? Wouldnt that be a good idea to do it rather than getting an F and suffer from a low gpa?

Be careful with incompletes. At my school, if an incomplete is not removed by the end of the following semester/quarter, it will automatically and permanetely become a F (if you choose letter grades), or it will be no pass (if you chose P/NP).
 
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