Help! Thinking of quitting because of internship

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I know radiology won't be nearly as bad as my internal medicine internship. I didn't think it would be this miserable. I am on the verge of quitting after only two weeks into this. How did all of you make it through your internships without giving up? Can't see the light at the end of this tunnel.
 
Two weeks? Really?

It can't be that bad, no matter where you are, if you have time to post on SDN. Suck it up, set an iphone timer app for another 50 weeks and begin the countdown.
 
I know radiology won't be nearly as bad as my internal medicine internship. I didn't think it would be this miserable. I am on the verge of quitting after only two weeks into this. How did all of you make it through your internships without giving up? Can't see the light at the end of this tunnel.

Why is your internship so bad? Calls suck sure, but now with the hour changes, you are only there 12 hours or so, and the rest of the days are not so bad, especially if you have a few electives.
 
Two weeks? Really?

It can't be that bad, no matter where you are, if you have time to post on SDN. Suck it up, set an iphone timer app for another 50 weeks and begin the countdown.

Well I still get a day off... I'm working 14-16 hours a day. It sucks because I take admissions 2/3 days and discharge every day. And people are very rude, including patients, case managers, and some attendings. Scut, scut, scut. I was sheltered in med school and didn't know what I was getting into.
 
Well I still get a day off... I'm working 14-16 hours a day. It sucks because I take admissions 2/3 days and discharge every day. And people are very rude, including patients, case managers, and some attendings. Scut, scut, scut. I was sheltered in med school and didn't know what I was getting into.

That sucks. I had a pretty light prelim year, went in around 7-8am, depending on rotation, and would leave by about 3:30pm/4:00pm on non call days. Hang in there though! You'll get more efficient and people will respect you more.
 
Welcome to miserable world of residency.

When I was a radiology resident, I had to reprt according to the desire of each attending. And we had about 40-60 faculty members. It was a hell.


Suck it up. You have to do it as others say. It will be a little better after a while.
I myself was OK with my internship. Show up in the morning, do the paperwork and go home.


An honestly, overall radiology residency can be better, but also can be worse. You have to get used to it. For me, internhip was easier than some of my rads rotations. But, don't give a crap about what happens. See the end of way. Sooner than you think, you will be a radiology fellow looking for an Independent job,


Good luck
 
First of all, what you are experiencing is normal. Starting internship can be quite a shock, particularly if you are doing a difficult one (not all IM internships are created equally.) Many folks who will tell you to "suck it up" may have had much easier intern years, or perhaps they were fortunate to start on an easier rotation. Or perhaps they have already forgotten how bad it was for them, which happens after a few years of radiology residency. I recall a conversation I had with several other radiology residents when we were starting our orientation, comparing intern years and sharing horror stories. One hotshot mouthed off about how they didn't think intern year was all that hard. It later came to light that they had done one of the country's most infamously easy transitional years (something like 6 months outpatient electives.) Nothing at all like the big city county hospital grind we all experienced. So don't let anyone tell you that what you are feeling is not legitimate.

Second, please believe me that the year will go faster than you think. Time is relative, and when you finally get into a comfortable rhythm (it will happen) the time will start to fly. First you'll be wondering about how to organize a thanksgiving family visit between busy calls, then Christmas will come and go, and before you know it you'll be on your last few months. This will happen, trust me.

Finally, don't forget who you are. You have been found and tried worthy more times in your young life than most folks ever do. You have overcome challenges both formidable and numerous, and you WILL overcome this one. If you are struggling, then it is because you are faced with a difficult task, and you should not be expected to deal with that like some emotionless automaton. You are human- you get tired, you get nervous, you get stressed. If the people around you don't seem to feel this way (like your upper level residents) don't forget that they have had the time to adjust that you haven't, and that not everyone has the same experiences, and not everyone responds the same way to similar experiences. You'll have to find ways to deal with those side-effects of your demanding career, like protecting your time away from the hospital and maximizing those activities which bring you happiness and peace of mind.

Truthfully, there is a great deal of benefit to doing a tougher internship. You'll be much more deft at procedures, you'll be of greater value to your referring physicians, and perhaps most importantly you will really appreciate your new specialty (unlike many folks who have never had to experience the real grind that medicine/surgery have to deal with.) When spring comes around you'll start to feel your confidence growing, you'll be much less stressed by codes, middle of the night pages, procedures etc, and then it will be a downhill slope to your first day of radiology.

Let me end this rambling by writing one other important thing. Sometimes the stress that accompanies physician training is intensified by the feeling of being trapped- you've come all this way, and now you find the result unpleasant, maybe even downright awful. You are NOT trapped. You are smart, capable, and you live in the US. You make a choice everyday to continue your training, and no one can take that choice away from you. If you ever did come to the conclusion that you wanted out, you can make that choice, and you will still be successful and live an enjoyable life doing one of many, many other interesting and satisfying jobs. Once you realize this, that you are not a slave but instead a very valuable human being who chooses to undergo this rigorous training in order to learn to heal the sick, you may find that the day to day impossible tasks shrink back down to the annoyances that they really are, and the intern year which seems never ending is actually just a very challenging, but rather short, stumbling block on your way to success.

I hope you find some solace here, and hey, congrats on already almost being done with your first rotation.
 
I know radiology won't be nearly as bad as my internal medicine internship. I didn't think it would be this miserable. I am on the verge of quitting after only two weeks into this. How did all of you make it through your internships without giving up? Can't see the light at the end of this tunnel.


Two weeks into internship is very early to be feeling the feelings you are feeling, especially at the level of intensity that you are experiencing them. Is there more to the whole picture? Rather than "sucking it up", I would recommend seeing a mental-health professional if there are any mental health concerns. While it is common for residents to experience problems with mood during residency, having the urge to quit just two weeks into residency suggests a thought process which revolves around more than just the demands of residency. Before making any rash decisions, speak to a professional and try to figure out what your thought process about the situation is, and approach it from there.
 
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First of all, what you are experiencing is normal. Starting internship can be quite a shock, particularly if you are doing a difficult one (not all IM internships are created equally.) Many folks who will tell you to "suck it up" may have had much easier intern years, or perhaps they were fortunate to start on an easier rotation. Or perhaps they have already forgotten how bad it was for them, which happens after a few years of radiology residency. I recall a conversation I had with several other radiology residents when we were starting our orientation, comparing intern years and sharing horror stories. One hotshot mouthed off about how they didn't think intern year was all that hard. It later came to light that they had done one of the country's most infamously easy transitional years (something like 6 months outpatient electives.) Nothing at all like the big city county hospital grind we all experienced. So don't let anyone tell you that what you are feeling is not legitimate.

Second, please believe me that the year will go faster than you think. Time is relative, and when you finally get into a comfortable rhythm (it will happen) the time will start to fly. First you'll be wondering about how to organize a thanksgiving family visit between busy calls, then Christmas will come and go, and before you know it you'll be on your last few months. This will happen, trust me.

Finally, don't forget who you are. You have been found and tried worthy more times in your young life than most folks ever do. You have overcome challenges both formidable and numerous, and you WILL overcome this one. If you are struggling, then it is because you are faced with a difficult task, and you should not be expected to deal with that like some emotionless automaton. You are human- you get tired, you get nervous, you get stressed. If the people around you don't seem to feel this way (like your upper level residents) don't forget that they have had the time to adjust that you haven't, and that not everyone has the same experiences, and not everyone responds the same way to similar experiences. You'll have to find ways to deal with those side-effects of your demanding career, like protecting your time away from the hospital and maximizing those activities which bring you happiness and peace of mind.

Truthfully, there is a great deal of benefit to doing a tougher internship. You'll be much more deft at procedures, you'll be of greater value to your referring physicians, and perhaps most importantly you will really appreciate your new specialty (unlike many folks who have never had to experience the real grind that medicine/surgery have to deal with.) When spring comes around you'll start to feel your confidence growing, you'll be much less stressed by codes, middle of the night pages, procedures etc, and then it will be a downhill slope to your first day of radiology.

Let me end this rambling by writing one other important thing. Sometimes the stress that accompanies physician training is intensified by the feeling of being trapped- you've come all this way, and now you find the result unpleasant, maybe even downright awful. You are NOT trapped. You are smart, capable, and you live in the US. You make a choice everyday to continue your training, and no one can take that choice away from you. If you ever did come to the conclusion that you wanted out, you can make that choice, and you will still be successful and live an enjoyable life doing one of many, many other interesting and satisfying jobs. Once you realize this, that you are not a slave but instead a very valuable human being who chooses to undergo this rigorous training in order to learn to heal the sick, you may find that the day to day impossible tasks shrink back down to the annoyances that they really are, and the intern year which seems never ending is actually just a very challenging, but rather short, stumbling block on your way to success.

I hope you find some solace here, and hey, congrats on already almost being done with your first rotation.

Wow this is an amazing response and really helped me. I think I may print this out and read it everyday when I'm feeling overwhelmed. Thank you.
 
Two weeks into internship is very early to be feeling the feelings you are feeling, especially at the level of intensity that you are experiencing them. Is there more to the whole picture? Rather than "sucking it up", I would recommend seeing a mental-health professional if there are any mental health concerns. While it is common for residents to experience problems with mood during residency, having the urge to quit just two weeks into residency suggests a thought process which revolves around more than just the demands of residency. Before making any rash decisions, speak to a professional and try to figure out what your thought process about the situation is, and approach it from there.
There are more things going on, yes. I chose to go to a more difficult internship over a guaranteed easy TY near my family to be with my fiance for a year (who is an R2) so I sometimes regret the choice. My grandfather recently died from a heart attack and then my father (who is also a physician) had a massive heart attack during my orientation. But I haven't spoken to him in over 5 years after years of resentment due to his cheating on my mother came to a point and he cursed me very uglily. I've been on SSRIs for a few years but stopped them at the end of med school because I hate taking them d/t side effects. So I have a lot of things on my mind, I guess, and I hope I can adapt soon. Because like was said before, I need to have perspective and be more appreciative of where I am.
 
There are more things going on, yes. I chose to go to a more difficult internship over a guaranteed easy TY near my family to be with my fiance for a year (who is an R2) so I sometimes regret the choice. My grandfather recently died from a heart attack and then my father (who is also a physician) had a massive heart attack during my orientation. But I haven't spoken to him in over 5 years after years of resentment due to his cheating on my mother came to a point and he cursed me very uglily. I've been on SSRIs for a few years but stopped them at the end of med school because I hate taking them d/t side effects. So I have a lot of things on my mind, I guess, and I hope I can adapt soon. Because like was said before, I need to have perspective and be more appreciative of where I am.

Those a difficult and stressful situations, and I am sorry that you have to deal with these things especially at such a time. While it is true that you are in a position that can be viewed as fortunate by others, stating the need for more perspective or appreciation of your situation as it pertains to others only puts attention away from your own emotions and thought processes. It would be helpful if you could process your feelings about the events that are happening and better understand them in the context of a current stressful situation (internship). Hoping that you will adapt will do little in providing you with a sense of perceived and real control over the situation- and there are definitely things that can be done (improving complaince, changes in medication classes [ie SNRI's], therapy). I wish you the best of luck.
 
This is the best post ever in the history of SDN.

First of all, what you are experiencing is normal. Starting internship can be quite a shock, particularly if you are doing a difficult one (not all IM internships are created equally.) Many folks who will tell you to "suck it up" may have had much easier intern years, or perhaps they were fortunate to start on an easier rotation. Or perhaps they have already forgotten how bad it was for them, which happens after a few years of radiology residency. I recall a conversation I had with several other radiology residents when we were starting our orientation, comparing intern years and sharing horror stories. One hotshot mouthed off about how they didn't think intern year was all that hard. It later came to light that they had done one of the country's most infamously easy transitional years (something like 6 months outpatient electives.) Nothing at all like the big city county hospital grind we all experienced. So don't let anyone tell you that what you are feeling is not legitimate.

Second, please believe me that the year will go faster than you think. Time is relative, and when you finally get into a comfortable rhythm (it will happen) the time will start to fly. First you'll be wondering about how to organize a thanksgiving family visit between busy calls, then Christmas will come and go, and before you know it you'll be on your last few months. This will happen, trust me.

Finally, don't forget who you are. You have been found and tried worthy more times in your young life than most folks ever do. You have overcome challenges both formidable and numerous, and you WILL overcome this one. If you are struggling, then it is because you are faced with a difficult task, and you should not be expected to deal with that like some emotionless automaton. You are human- you get tired, you get nervous, you get stressed. If the people around you don't seem to feel this way (like your upper level residents) don't forget that they have had the time to adjust that you haven't, and that not everyone has the same experiences, and not everyone responds the same way to similar experiences. You'll have to find ways to deal with those side-effects of your demanding career, like protecting your time away from the hospital and maximizing those activities which bring you happiness and peace of mind.

Truthfully, there is a great deal of benefit to doing a tougher internship. You'll be much more deft at procedures, you'll be of greater value to your referring physicians, and perhaps most importantly you will really appreciate your new specialty (unlike many folks who have never had to experience the real grind that medicine/surgery have to deal with.) When spring comes around you'll start to feel your confidence growing, you'll be much less stressed by codes, middle of the night pages, procedures etc, and then it will be a downhill slope to your first day of radiology.

Let me end this rambling by writing one other important thing. Sometimes the stress that accompanies physician training is intensified by the feeling of being trapped- you've come all this way, and now you find the result unpleasant, maybe even downright awful. You are NOT trapped. You are smart, capable, and you live in the US. You make a choice everyday to continue your training, and no one can take that choice away from you. If you ever did come to the conclusion that you wanted out, you can make that choice, and you will still be successful and live an enjoyable life doing one of many, many other interesting and satisfying jobs. Once you realize this, that you are not a slave but instead a very valuable human being who chooses to undergo this rigorous training in order to learn to heal the sick, you may find that the day to day impossible tasks shrink back down to the annoyances that they really are, and the intern year which seems never ending is actually just a very challenging, but rather short, stumbling block on your way to success.

I hope you find some solace here, and hey, congrats on already almost being done with your first rotation.
 
Let me end this rambling by writing one other important thing. Sometimes the stress that accompanies physician training is intensified by the feeling of being trapped- you've come all this way, and now you find the result unpleasant, maybe even downright awful. You are NOT trapped. You are smart, capable, and you live in the US. You make a choice everyday to continue your training, and no one can take that choice away from you. If you ever did come to the conclusion that you wanted out, you can make that choice, and you will still be successful and live an enjoyable life doing one of many, many other interesting and satisfying jobs.

You are trapped. If you don't believe me, check out the General Residency forum threads of docs who have been kicked out of internship/residency. Without completing (at the minimum) internship, your job prospects will be the same as that of a college grad- in this economy you would be lucky to get a job working at Starbucks. If the economy improves, I guess you could eventually find a job paying 40-50k- I guess this is an option if you don't have a lot of loans.

My (categorical) IM internship sucked; but I got through it because I realized that I had no other choice. I just did what I had to do. One day at a time.
 
First of all, what you are experiencing is normal. Starting internship can be quite a shock, particularly if you are doing a difficult one (not all IM internships are created equally.) Many folks who will tell you to "suck it up" may have had much easier intern years, or perhaps they were fortunate to start on an easier rotation. Or perhaps they have already forgotten how bad it was for them, which happens after a few years of radiology residency. I recall a conversation I had with several other radiology residents when we were starting our orientation, comparing intern years and sharing horror stories. One hotshot mouthed off about how they didn't think intern year was all that hard. It later came to light that they had done one of the country's most infamously easy transitional years (something like 6 months outpatient electives.) Nothing at all like the big city county hospital grind we all experienced. So don't let anyone tell you that what you are feeling is not legitimate.

Second, please believe me that the year will go faster than you think. Time is relative, and when you finally get into a comfortable rhythm (it will happen) the time will start to fly. First you'll be wondering about how to organize a thanksgiving family visit between busy calls, then Christmas will come and go, and before you know it you'll be on your last few months. This will happen, trust me.

Finally, don't forget who you are. You have been found and tried worthy more times in your young life than most folks ever do. You have overcome challenges both formidable and numerous, and you WILL overcome this one. If you are struggling, then it is because you are faced with a difficult task, and you should not be expected to deal with that like some emotionless automaton. You are human- you get tired, you get nervous, you get stressed. If the people around you don't seem to feel this way (like your upper level residents) don't forget that they have had the time to adjust that you haven't, and that not everyone has the same experiences, and not everyone responds the same way to similar experiences. You'll have to find ways to deal with those side-effects of your demanding career, like protecting your time away from the hospital and maximizing those activities which bring you happiness and peace of mind.

Truthfully, there is a great deal of benefit to doing a tougher internship. You'll be much more deft at procedures, you'll be of greater value to your referring physicians, and perhaps most importantly you will really appreciate your new specialty (unlike many folks who have never had to experience the real grind that medicine/surgery have to deal with.) When spring comes around you'll start to feel your confidence growing, you'll be much less stressed by codes, middle of the night pages, procedures etc, and then it will be a downhill slope to your first day of radiology.

Let me end this rambling by writing one other important thing. Sometimes the stress that accompanies physician training is intensified by the feeling of being trapped- you've come all this way, and now you find the result unpleasant, maybe even downright awful. You are NOT trapped. You are smart, capable, and you live in the US. You make a choice everyday to continue your training, and no one can take that choice away from you. If you ever did come to the conclusion that you wanted out, you can make that choice, and you will still be successful and live an enjoyable life doing one of many, many other interesting and satisfying jobs. Once you realize this, that you are not a slave but instead a very valuable human being who chooses to undergo this rigorous training in order to learn to heal the sick, you may find that the day to day impossible tasks shrink back down to the annoyances that they really are, and the intern year which seems never ending is actually just a very challenging, but rather short, stumbling block on your way to success.

I hope you find some solace here, and hey, congrats on already almost being done with your first rotation.

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