Help! What type of stats do you need to get into a GPR program in NY/NYC?

[alfie5884]

Is it really competitive? Since a GPR will be required after dental school, wouldn't it be easier to get into? Or wouldn't everyone practicing in NY be placed in a mandatory GPR program? 😕

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[scalpel2008]

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[piko00]

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I was thinking the same thing.

 

[alfie5884]

pulse > 0

what? 😎

 

[Drill2Fill]

what? 😎

He's saying all you need is a pulse to get in.

 

[alfie5884]

He's saying all you need is a pulse to get in.

for real? 😱 do they place you into a gpr program? or do you still have to apply?

i also want to stay in queens or long island. are the gpr programs competitive for spots in these areas?

 

[piko00]

for real? 😱 do they place you into a gpr program? or do you still have to apply?

i also want to stay in queens or long island. are the gpr programs competitive for spots in these areas?

Of course you have to apply. They're not going to just assume that you want to practice there. Maybe you want to go back to your state or whatever.

My understanding is that this PGY1 year replaces the licensure exam for New York, so I'm thinking that these PGY1 programs will likely accept as many applicants as typically pass the licensure exam, except that they get to keep you for longer and suck more money off of you.

I don't think it's necessary for NYU students because they get plenty of clinic time (especially with the whole new Clinic Production Requirements thing), but I know that Columbia graduates really need it coz their clinical training isn't all that great as I hear. I even heard that before this PGY1 bill got passed, the Columbia Dean used to highly recommend that Columbia students do a 1 year residency before going into general practice. That doesn't sound good; there are schools out there that pride themselves with how they graduate dentists who're comfortable enough clinically to be completely on their own immediately after graduation e.g. Creighton (although not in NYU), but you get the point.

Why don't you call and ask them yourself if they have a limited number of spots, and let us know when you find out.

 

[S Files]

Of course you have to apply. They're not going to just assume that you want to practice there. Maybe you want to go back to your state or whatever.

My understanding is that this PGY1 year replaces the licensure exam for New York, so I'm thinking that these PGY1 programs will likely accept as many applicants as typically pass the licensure exam, except that they get to keep you for longer and suck more money off of you.

I don't think it's necessary for NYU students because they get plenty of clinic time (especially with the whole new Clinic Production Requirements thing), but I know that Columbia graduates really need it coz their clinical training isn't all that great as I hear. I even heard that before this PGY1 bill got passed, the Columbia Dean used to highly recommend that Columbia students do a 1 year residency before going into general practice. That doesn't sound good; there are schools out there that pride themselves with how they graduate dentists who're comfortable enough clinically to be completely on their own immediately after graduation e.g. Creighton (although not in NYU), but you get the point.

Why don't you call and ask them yourself if they have a limited number of spots, and let us know when you find out.

you obviously know very little about NY-Zoo? are you a pre-dent giving advice? just curious..

 

[piko00]

you obviously know very little about NY-Zoo? are you a pre-dent giving advice? just curious..

What's your problem? Add your sager advice to the discussion then, instead of all the nothing you have up there.

 

[shabu2]

What's your problem? Add your sager advice to the discussion then, instead of all the nothing you have up there.

P,

You should not spread hearsay about programs you have not experienced directly. Although true that clinical time is not one of our strong points, we definately are stronger in others. Our clinic experience does not make us the FASTEST, but we can diagnose anything, everything NYU grads can. Plus, most of us specialize anyways. 😉

 

[alfie5884]

Of course you have to apply. They're not going to just assume that you want to practice there. Maybe you want to go back to your state or whatever.

My understanding is that this PGY1 year replaces the licensure exam for New York, so I'm thinking that these PGY1 programs will likely accept as many applicants as typically pass the licensure exam, except that they get to keep you for longer and suck more money off of you.

I don't think it's necessary for NYU students because they get plenty of clinic time (especially with the whole new Clinic Production Requirements thing), but I know that Columbia graduates really need it coz their clinical training isn't all that great as I hear. I even heard that before this PGY1 bill got passed, the Columbia Dean used to highly recommend that Columbia students do a 1 year residency before going into general practice. That doesn't sound good; there are schools out there that pride themselves with how they graduate dentists who're comfortable enough clinically to be completely on their own immediately after graduation e.g. Creighton (although not in NYU), but you get the point.

Why don't you call and ask them yourself if they have a limited number of spots, and let us know when you find out.

So is the 1yr PGY program the only choice I have? Or can I just take the licensure exam and if I pass then practice? If I don't pass then I will apply to the PGY program?

 

[Jone]

someone posted a listing of unmatched GPR positions, and there were several dozen positions that remain unfilled in new york. that should answer your questions as to the difficulty in getting accepted into one of them.

 

[Jone]

Found it:

NEW YORK
ST. PETER'S HOSPITAL
ALBANY NY 12208
Telephone: (518) 525-6289
Director: BENJAMIN P. GRAHAM, DMD
Program: GPR-1 YR
Openings: 1

VETERANS ADMIN MEDICAL CENTER
ALBANY NY 12208
Telephone: (518) 626-6570
Director: ILZE EGLITIS DDS MS
Program: GPR-1 YR
Openings: 3

BRONX LEBANON HOSPITAL CENTER
BRONX NY 10457
Telephone: (718) 901-8110
Director: DR. PAUL E GATES
Program: GPR-1 YR
Openings: 9

JACOBI MEDICAL CENTER
BRONX NY 10461
Telephone: (718) 918-3418
Director: PETER M. GERSHENSON, DDS
Program: GPR-1 YR
Openings: 7

LINCOLN MED & MENTAL HEALTH CTR
BRONX NY 10451
Telephone: (718) 579-5691
Director: DR. GUS MONIOUDIS
Program: GPR-1 YR
Openings: 3

MONTEFIORE MEDICAL CENTER
BRONX NY 10467
Telephone: (718) 920-2418
Director: NADINE NEWSOME, DDS
Program: GPR-1 YR
Openings: 11

ST BARNABAS HOSPITAL
BRONX NY 10457
Telephone: (718) 220-2020 EXT 8961
Director: ROBERT MARGOLIN
Program: GPR-1 YR
Openings: 13

BROOKDALE HOSPITAL MEDICAL CTR
BROOKLYN NY 11212
Telephone: (718) 240-6282
Director: EDGAR FAYANS
Program: GPR-1 YR - 2ND YEAR OPTIONAL
Openings: 4

INTERFAITH MEDICAL CENTER
BROOKLYN NY 11216
Telephone: (718) 613-7384
Director: INGRID A DOWRICH DDS
Program: GPR-1 YR
Openings: 5

KINGS COUNTY HOSPITAL CENTER
BROOKLYN NY 11203
Telephone: (718) 270-1884
Director: JULIUS R BERGER DDS
Program: GPR-1 YR
Openings: 8

KINGSBROOK JEWISH MEDICAL CENTER
BROOKLYN NY 11203
Telephone: (718) 604-5381
Director: JULIUS R BERGER DDS
Program: GPR-1 YR
Openings: 3

LONG ISLAND COLLEGE HOSPITAL
BROOKLYN NY 11201
Telephone: (718) 780-4630
Director: PAUL TEPLITSKY DMD
Program: GPR-1 YR
Openings: 3

LUTHERAN MEDICAL CENTER
BROOKLYN NY 11220
Telephone: (718) 630-8753
Director: BERNARD TOLPIN, DDS
Program: GPR-1 YR
Openings: 2

MAIMONIDES MEDICAL CENTER
BROOKLYN NY 11219
Telephone: (718) 283-7428
Director: JULIUS R BERGER DDS
Program: GPR-1 YR
Openings: 4

THE BROOKLYN HOSPITAL CENTER
DEPARTMENT OF DENTISTRY/OMS
BROOKLYN NY 11201
Telephone: (718) 250-8258
Director: HARRY DYM DDS
Program: GPR-1 YR
Openings: 4

WOODHULL MED & MENTAL HEALTH CTR
BROOKLYN NY 11206
Telephone: (718) 963-8310 EXT 8381
Director: SHELDON D STACHEL DDS
Program: GPR-1 YR
Openings: 10

WYCKOFF HEIGHTS MEDICAL CENTER
BROOKLYN NY 11237
Telephone: (718) 963-7174
Director: MIRIAM BONET
Program: GPR-1 YR
Openings: 3

NASSAU UNIVERSITY MEDICAL CENTER
EAST MEADOW NY 11554
Telephone: (516) 572-8774
Director: STEVEN G PERGOLA DDS
Program: GPR-1 YR
Openings: 2

PENINSULA HOSPITAL CENTER
FAR ROCKAWAY NY 11691
Telephone: (718) 734-2776
Director: STEPHEN E BOVE DDS
Program: GPR-1 YR
Openings: 8

NEW YORK HOSP MED CTR OF QUEENS
FLUSHING NY 11355
Telephone: (718) 670-1060
Director: BURTON S WASSERMAN DDS
Program: GPR-1 YR
Openings: 11

COLER-GOLDWATER SPECIALTY HOSP
AND NURSING FACILITY
GOLDWATER CAMPUS, DEPT. OF DENT.
F.D. ROOSEVELT ISLAND
Telephone: (212) 318-4488
Director: OPAL GOODRIDGE DDS
Program: GPR-1 YR
Openings: 5

COLUMBIA-PRESBYTERIAN MED CTR/
PRESBYTERIAN HOSPITAL
NEW YORK NY 10032
Telephone: (212) 305-2015
Director: GREGORY BUNZA, DDS
Program: GPR-1 YR - 2ND YR OPTIONAL
Openings: 1

HARLEM HOSPITAL CENTER/
COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY
NEW YORK NY 10037
Telephone: (212) 939-2882
Director: JAMES R KING DDS
Program: GPR-1 YR
Openings: 5

MOUNT SINAI MEDICAL CENTER
DEPARTMENT OF DENTISTRY
NEW YORK NY 10029
Telephone: (212) 241-7681
Director: JOHN PFAIL DDS
Program: GPR-1 YR
Openings: 3

NEW YORK MEDICAL COLLEGE
SOUTHERN CONSORTIUM - GPR
NEW YORK NY 10029
Telephone: (212) 423-8977
Director: ISABEL GARCIA, DDS
Program: GPR-1 YR-METRO & ST. VINCENT'S
Openings: 4

ST LUKE'S-ROOSEVELT HOSPITAL CTR
NEW YORK NY 10025
Telephone: (212) 523-3171
Director: BRUCE LISH DDS
Program: GPR-1 YR
Openings: 1

VETERANS ADMIN MEDICAL CENTER
NEW YORK NY 10010
Telephone: (212) 686-7500 EXT 7025
Director: JEFFREY L TARLOW
Program: GPR-1 YR
Openings: 1

ST CHARLES HOSPITAL
PORT JEFFERSON NY 11777
Telephone: (631) 474-6318
Director: M CHERCHES DDS/FRAN BARRETT
Program: GPR-1 YR
Openings: 1

ST. VINCENT CATHOLIC MEDICAL CTR
MARY IMMACULATE HOSPITAL
QUEENS NY 11432
Telephone: (718) 558-6645
Director: DAVID J MILLER DDS
Program: GPR-1 YR
Openings: 7

ST CLARE'S HOSPITAL
SCHENECTADY NY 12304
Telephone: (518) 347-5788
Director: KHLOUD ELKORDY, DDS
Program: GPR-1 YR
Openings: 4

STATEN ISLAND UNIV. HOSPITAL
Telephone: (718) 226-9847
Director: DONALD RATCLIFFE DDS
Program: GPR-1 YR
Openings: 8

STATE UNIVERSITY OF NEW YORK
AT STONY BROOK
UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL
Telephone: (631) 632-6904
Director: SYLVIA R. RICE
Program: GPR-1 YR
Openings: 3

UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL
SUNY UPSTATE MEDICAL UNIVERSITY
SYRACUSE NY 13202
Telephone: (315) 464-4146
Director: PATRICK B. SMITH DDS
Program: GPR-1 YR
Openings: 2

FAXTON - ST. LUKE'S HEALTHCARE
UTICA NY 13503
Telephone: (315) 624-6227
Director: JAMES M ROZANSKI DDS
Program: GPR-1 YR
Openings: 4

NEW YORK MED COLLEGE - NORTHERN
CONSORTIUM
VALHALLA NY 10595
Telephone: (914) 493-7622
Director: ROSA MARTINEZ DDS
Program: GPR-1 YR-WESTCHESTER MED CTR
Openings: 2
Program: GPR-1 YR - OUR LADY OF MERCY MED
Openings: 2

 

[setdoc7]

Jacobi Med Ctr matched all positions for 2007-2008 and has no openings

 

[alfie5884]

NEW YORK HOSP MED CTR OF QUEENS
FLUSHING NY 11355
Telephone: (718) 670-1060
Director: BURTON S WASSERMAN DDS
Program: GPR-1 YR
Openings: 11

So say I apply to the program above, if there are that many seats left will they reject me for having a low GPA? 🙁 Do GPA or NERB scores play a big role in the acceptance into a GPR program? Or will they test/focus you on your clinical skills instead? 😕

 

[High Desert Doc]

P,

You should not spread hearsay about programs you have not experienced directly. Although true that clinical time is not one of our strong points, we definately are stronger in others. Our clinic experience does not make us the FASTEST, but we can diagnose anything, everything NYU grads can. Plus, most of us specialize anyways. 😉

hey shabu,

have you been practicing on changing that ny accent to a dirty south one?...can't wait to hear you talk in a couple of years at the AAOMS meetings...😀

 

[alfie5884]

So will a 2.0-2.5 GPA make it into a NY required GPR? How does the match process work anyway?

 

[toysareus]

yah, some programs just want to fill their seats and will take anyone (no matter how low your gpa is).
However, if the program is that desperate, there's generally a reason for it. Research programs, ask questions and visit the sites.

 

[alfie5884]

yah, some programs just want to fill their seats and will take anyone (no matter how low your gpa is).
However, if the program is that desperate, there's generally a reason for it. Research programs, ask questions and visit the sites.

so do you mean that a 2.0-2.5 too low a GPA for a good/ok GPR program to accept?

do you know where i can find more info about the stats of applicants that get accepted to NY GPR programs? preferably in queens, long island, manhattan. 😉

 

[toysareus]

I don't think anyone posts stats and GPR acceptances.
You are in your first year, you have two more years to bring up that gpa. I'm sure with a 2.5, you can get into a GPR (probably not the most competitive, but maybe a dencet one). It's not all about grades.
They look at your board scores, your essay, your letters of recs, etc.

 

[shabu2]

hey shabu,

have you been practicing on changing that ny accent to a dirty south one?...can't wait to hear you talk in a couple of years at the AAOMS meetings...😀

I'll be seeing y'all at aaoms.