Help with MD school list

[Johnny Appleseed]

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cGPA: 3.49
sGPA: 3.50
MCAT: 512 - 128/127/126/131

Very large upward trend (academic probation my freshman year with a 1.5 GPA, averaged a 3.81 since then). Strong ECs, LORs, etc. Utah Resident

Applied to:
Medical College of Wisconsin
Penn State
Tulane
University of Colorado
Virginia Commonwealth

I'm not sure how many more schools to add. Any suggestions? Is ten a good number? Any suggestions on which ones to add?

@Goro @gyngyn

 

[efle]

...university of utah?

 

[Goro]

Add DO schos to the list. Also, Albany, NYMC, the Philly triplets, U Miami, Rosy Franklin, Loyola, EVMS, Wake

 

[khrisskhoras]

Ya def add some DO schools. Had a lot of luck with them and had a very average profile when applying. AZCOM and Touro Nevada are geographically nearby and good choices to start with.

 

[Lamegane]

Rutgers New Jersey Medical school
Rutgers Robert Wood Johnson Medical school
Howard University (D.C)
Meharry medical college (Tennessee)
Morehouse school of medicine (Georgia)

 

[Professional Student]

Only reply to the offshore medical school post if you want to acquire $300k in debt for a 60% chance (at most) at graduating and getting any residency.

I think you should only apply to Meharry, Howard, or Morehouse if you are African American. Both Rutgers affiliates are very biased against OOS, you should probably not add those either. I disagree with every school Lamegane mentioned. There are many more schools with your median stats that you have a much better chance at gaining an acceptance than those 5 schools.

 

[PreMedMissteps]

cGPA: 3.49
sGPA: 3.50
MCAT: 512 - 128/127/126/131

Very large upward trend (academic probation my freshman year with a 1.5 GPA, averaged a 3.81 since then). Strong ECs, LORs, etc. Utah Resident

Applied to:
Medical College of Wisconsin
Penn State
Tulane
University of Colorado
Virginia Commonwealth

I'm not sure how many more schools to add. Any suggestions? Is ten a good number? Any suggestions on which ones to add?

@Goro @gyngyn

Why the OOS publics, particularly Colorado?

why don't you have Utah on your list?

Do you have any hooks or ties to other states? How about Nevada? Any ties there?

 

[Johnny Appleseed]

Sorry, I have applied to Utah; that was the first school I added, I just forgot to put it on my list. Applied to Colorado because of location and because a few students at my institutions a year ahead of me got in there, as well as Virginia Commonwealth.

Don't have many ties to other states. I was born in Washington state, but moved to Utah as a kid. I have extended family (aunts, uncles, cousins) in Arizona, N.C, and Florida...

Do you think ten MD schools is enough? I have applied and received interviews to a few DO schools already. I just want to give myself a fair shot at going MD as well.

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[candbgirl]

Are you UIM? Do you have a history of commitment to the AA community? If not scrap Howard, Meharry and Morehouse! Add the schools @Gorto advised you to. Good Luck!


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[Toutie]

Rutgers New Jersey Medical school
Rutgers Robert Wood Johnson Medical school
Howard University (D.C)
Meharry medical college (Tennessee)
Morehouse school of medicine (Georgia)

Why do you keep suggesting these same schools to people who are NOT URM and NOT from NJ? Exactly WHAT are you basing your recommendations on? 😕

 

[Lamegane]

Why do you keep suggesting these same schools to people who are NOT URM and NOT from NJ? Exactly WHAT are you basing your recommendations on? 😕

It. Was because of their low gpa. But someone corrected me. I know that even if you ar not an URM you still have a chance to get into those school compare to OP schools where the applicants wil have higher gpa that the one mentioned above. Thanks.

 

[gyngyn]

Rutgers New Jersey Medical school
Rutgers Robert Wood Johnson Medical school
Howard University (D.C)
Meharry medical college (Tennessee)
Morehouse school of medicine (Georgia)

None of these are good choices for OP.
Meharry, Morehouse and Howard are mission-based schools where OP does not fit the mission.
Both NJ schools strongly prefer IS candidates. Their OOS matriculants tend to be from the region.

 

[Lamegane]

None of these are good choices for OP.
Meharry, Morehouse and Howard are mission-based schools where OP does not fit the mission.
Both NJ schools strongly prefer IS candidates. Their OOS matriculants tend to be from the region.

Ok. Thanks

 

[Toutie]

It. Was because of their low gpa. But someone corrected me. I know that even if you ar not an URM you still have a chance to get into those school compare to OP schools where the applicants wil have higher gpa that the one mentioned above. Thanks.

That makes no sense. This guy didn't have THAT low of a GPA, neither did the other guy. The few non-UiM people who do get into HBC's tend to get there because they have shown service to the AA community, not because they have a somewhat lower GPA. And what' s your excuse for suggesting that a guy from Oregon and a guy from Utah go to a school in New Jersey that take few OOS?

If you don't know what you are talking about, you'd be better off not offering bad advice to people looking for help.

 

[Lamegane]

That makes no sense. This guy didn't have THAT low of a GPA, neither did the other guy. The few non-UiM people who do get into HBC's tend to get there because they have shown service to the AA community, not because they have a somewhat lower GPA. And what' s your excuse for suggesting that a guy from Oregon and a guy from Utah go to a school in New Jersey that take few OOS?

If you don't know what you are talking about, you'd be better off not offering bad advice to people looking for help.

I did not look at their residency, i gave my opinion. However if it's misleading you can correct me if you want to just dont be rude.

 

[Goro]

It. Was because of their low gpa. But someone corrected me. I know that even if you ar not an URM you still have a chance to get into those school compare to OP schools where the applicants wil have higher gpa that the one mentioned above. Thanks.

There is more to helping fellow SDNers than merely spitting out lists based upon MCAT and GPA percentiles from either MSAR or USNWR. Altruism is appreciated, but you not helping.

 

[Lamegane]

There is more to helping fellow SDNers than merely spitting out lists based upon MCAT and GPA percentiles from either MSAR or USNWR. Altruism is appreciated, but you not helping.

at least I tried. Since you know everything learn how to speak to others. Thanks

 

[Toutie]

at least I tried. Since you know everything learn how to speak to others. Thanks

Neither @Goro or I have been rude in our comments to you. We are simply pointing out that you don't know what the heck you are talking about. How is that rude? People are in here asking for advice on schools to apply to. They will be paying money to the schools they apply to. They do not want to waste their money and time on schools they have no chance at. It is a great disservice to those people to be offering them advice that has no base or logic.

 

[Johnny Appleseed]

Thanks for the input so far. I've been studying the data in MSAR and have ruled out Meharry, Howard, Morehouse, and the NJ schools for the reasons mentioned above.

Here is an updated list of what I'm thinking of:

U of U
Drexel
Temple
U Miami
Rosy Franklin
Loyola
EVMS
Wake
Medical College of Wisconsin
Penn State
Tulane
University of Colorado
Virginia Commonwealth

Is this enough schools or is this too many schools? I know I have a low GPA so that and my academic probation from freshman year is what is worrying me....

Thanks for your input so far. This is helping a bunch!

 

[Lamegane]

Neither @Goro or I have been rude in our comments to you. We are simply pointing out that you don't know what the heck you are talking about. How is that rude? People are in here asking for advice on schools to apply to. They will be paying money to the schools they apply to. They do not want to waste their money and time on schools they have no chance at. It is a great disservice to those people to be offering them advice that has no base or logic.

Saying that someone is ignorant is to be rude. Nobody is born with knowledge. We learn things over time.
Thanks.

 

[Goro]

Neither @Goro or I have been rude in our comments to you. We are simply pointing out that you don't know what the heck you are talking about. How is that rude? People are in here asking for advice on schools to apply to. They will be paying money to the schools they apply to. It is a great disservice to those people to be offering them advice that has no base or logic.

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And in a teaching moment, SDNers should be aware that having a thin skin does not bode well for surviving med school or residency, where fellow students, professors, deans, senior residents and attendings who offer constructive criticism are not restrained by website TOS's either..

 

[PreMedMissteps]

It. Was because of their low gpa. But someone corrected me. I know that even if you ar not an URM you still have a chance to get into those school compare to OP schools where the applicants wil have higher gpa that the one mentioned above. Thanks.

I would imagine that those schools might accept a NonURM if that person's stats will help increase the average stats for the school. I don't see why they'd bother to accept a NonURM whose stats are modest.

 

[Goro]

Thanks for the input so far. I've been studying the data in MSAR and have ruled out Meharry, Howard, Morehouse, and the NJ schools for the reasons mentioned above.

Here is an updated list of what I'm thinking of:

U of U
Drexel
Temple
U Miami
Rosy Franklin
Loyola
EVMS
Wake
Medical College of Wisconsin
Penn State
Tulane
University of Colorado
Virginia Commonwealth

Is this enough schools or is this too many schools? I know I have a low GPA so that and my academic probation from freshman year is what is worrying me....

Thanks for your input so far. This is helping a bunch!

Many med schools like the ones you've listed reward reinvention. I do not think the list is extensive enough. You need to have some DO schools, and also add or consider:

U Miami
Albany
NYMC
Tufts
Gtown
GWU
SLU
MCW
The Philly Triplets

Suggest deleting U CO and Penn State. I can't recommend the latter...do a search as to why.

 

[Goro]

I would imagine that those schools might accept a NonURM if that person's stats will help increase the average stats for the school. I don't see why they'd bother to accept a NonURM whose stats are modest.

Those schools aren't stat ******...they care about their missions.

 

[PreMedMissteps]

Those schools aren't stat ******...they care about their missions.

I totally agree. There'd be no reason to accept the OP


However, it would only make sense for them to accept a nonURM that has nothing or little to do with their mission (like the OP) if the nonURM's stats could help their reporting numbers.

They don't need to be a score ***** like Vandy or WashU because their reporting numbers will never get close, but if they're going to accept someone who isn't part of their mission, then at least that person should help the school is SOME way....even if it's to help balance the MCAT 498 student they accepted.

 

[Goro]

I totally agree. However, it would only make sense for them to accept a nonURM that has nothing or little to do with their mission (like the OP) if the nonURM's stats could help their reporting numbers.

They don't need to be a score ***** like Vandy or WashU because their reporting numbers will never get close, but if they're going to accept someone who isn't part of their mission, then at least that person should help the school is SOME way....even if it's to help balance the MCAT 498 student they accepted.

Except med schools don't think like pre-meds.

 

[gyngyn]

I totally agree. There'd be no reason to accept the OP


However, it would only make sense for them to accept a nonURM that has nothing or little to do with their mission (like the OP) if the nonURM's stats could help their reporting numbers.

They don't need to be a score ***** like Vandy or WashU because their reporting numbers will never get close, but if they're going to accept someone who isn't part of their mission, then at least that person should help the school is SOME way....even if it's to help balance the MCAT 498 student they accepted.

There is no need to "balance" a 498. They teach and support the person with a 498 so that they match and provide service. I have a great deal of respect for schools that do this.
Giving away precious seats to minutely affect appearances would be a wasted opportunity for a community that dearly needs those opportunities.

 

[gyngyn]

To get back on topic, I can count a half dozen schools on your list where you have a fair chance at an interview. Another half dozen would be a good idea.