Hi all, I read one of those links PH put up and it lead me to going over the dsm for BPD, I have some questions though about the criteria: 3. identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self 7. chronic feelings of emptiness 9. transient, stress-related paranoid ideation or severe dissociative symptoms Can someone tell me how this criterion would present? Do the BPD's come in saying "I feel empty?" or do they get no satisfaction, fullfillment? When they say sense of self, I really don't know what that means at all - like they don't know who they are? Or what their purpose is? and for the dissociative - is that a true dissociation? I'm asking because all the BPD's (which just loved me in rotations ) never used these words with me, but they also carried the diagnosis already - I just found them to be really out of control and mostly needing to be the center of attention, throwing stuff around when they didn't get their way, trying to make themselves the "leader" of the rest of the patients So I'm not familiar with this other criteria. Can you help?