Help with writing about IA issue

[reapplicanthelpme2014]

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[Heplayer92]

It'd probably help if you told people what you did.

Big difference between getting caught smoking pot in the dorms versus cheating or driving under the influence.

Also, how'd you write about it in your first application?

 

[Sean Lee]

Hello,

So I have an academic institutional action from 4 years ago that I will need to write about in my AMCAS/AACOMAS. Before you rush to judge and tell me that I won't make it into medical school with an IA, please refrain. I've already spoken to various schools about it and given the rest of my application, as long as I talk about it and what I've done since, I will be okay. I was wondering if an ADCOM members or people who have previously been in this type of situation (IA on record) would be willing to read my explanation or provide any advice on how to navigate the application with this type of red flag. Also, I would like to know how you go about addressing the IA on secondaries (if at all). I am a reapplicant who had interviews last year, but for a combination of reasons, was ultimately not accepted. I know that some secondaries give space to talk about any additional information you want the committee to know; is that where I would talk about the IA again? Anyone who has any type of experience with this, or an adcom with advice, please let me know! Thank you!

I think it all depends on what type of IA it is.

From what I've heard...things like alcohol and noise violations don't matter, but things like cheating/fighting/drugs can be deadly.

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[Sean Lee]

It was an academic integrity violation regarding research.

This can be serious.

You absolutely want to show remorse and express what you learned from it. Do not imply that you are not entirely at fault, and do not suggest that the system was unfair, which it can most certainly be sometimes.

I completely understand that sometimes, people get IAs when they don't deserve them due to unfortunate circumstances and/or zealous administrators. But even if you were falsely accused, you must swallow your pride, tug your tails in, and admit that you are entirely at fault.

Did you attempt to justify what happened last round? Don't do that!

 

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[listener23]

Hello,

So I have an academic institutional action from 4 years ago that I will need to write about in my AMCAS/AACOMAS. Before you rush to judge and tell me that I won't make it into medical school with an IA, please refrain. I've already spoken to various schools about it and given the rest of my application, as long as I talk about it and what I've done since, I will be okay. I was wondering if an ADCOM members or people who have previously been in this type of situation (IA on record) would be willing to read my explanation or provide any advice on how to navigate the application with this type of red flag. Also, I would like to know how you go about addressing the IA on secondaries (if at all). I am a reapplicant who had interviews last year, but for a combination of reasons, was ultimately not accepted. I know that some secondaries give space to talk about any additional information you want the committee to know; is that where I would talk about the IA again? Anyone who has any type of experience with this, or an adcom with advice, please let me know! Thank you!

Does the IA show up on you transcript?

 

[Sean Lee]

I think that I might have tried to brush it off in a way that I shoudn't have. Would you Mind you mind reading it and giving me your opinion?

That could very well be your problem. Sure, PM me.

 

[Sean Lee]

Does the IA show up on you transcript?

Excellent Question!

Though you are treading on "morality" grounds here. Even if the IA doesn't show up on the transcript, you are still ethically obligated to report it. Now the chance of med schools finding out about the IA if it isn't on transcripts...is, well let's not get into that right now.

 

[listener23]

Excellent Question!

Though you are treading on "morality" grounds here. Even if the IA doesn't show up on the transcript, you are still ethically obligated to report it. Now the chance of med schools finding out about the IA if it isn't on transcripts...is, well let's not get into that right now.

Not on transcript = Never happened

Don't let SDN scare you

 

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[Sean Lee]

Not on transcript = Never happened

Don't let SDN scare you

Are you sure? I have an IA, and it isn't on transcripts.

What if med schools explicitly request a copy of your disciplinary record from the dean's office during its routine background checks of accepted students?

 

[listener23]

It does show up on my transcripts, and even if it didn't I would still write about it because I don't want anything to be hidden. It was a dumb mistake 4 years ago and I've definitely done a great deal since then to make up for it. But ultimately, I got a reduced grade.

What does it say on transcript?

 

[listener23]

Are you sure? I have an IA, and it isn't on transcripts.

What if med schools explicitly request a copy of your disciplinary record from the dean's office during its routine background checks of accepted students?

Medical schools aren't out to bust you, they will only request a disciplinary record if they are tipped off by someone....

 

[Sean Lee]

What does it say on transcript?

If an IA shows up on the transcript, it usually means that it was a serious event that likely resulted in suspension. The OP should tell us more regarding what happened.

 

[listener23]

If an IA shows up on the transcript, it usually means that it was a serious event that likely resulted in suspension. The OP should tell us more regarding what happened.

Yea I know I was just asking out of curiosity, Of corse medical school will look at the transcript and see it

 

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[Sean Lee]

I thought the background checks were for criminal charges...are they also disciplinary background checks? Either way, I'm going to be honest and upfront about it. I have nothing to hide and I'm willing to take responsibility for it. The situation gave me an enhanced respect and appreciation for ethical and honest behavior.

I are not sure what the background checks entail. But what exactly does your transcript say?

Like I say in my PM, your incident is relatively minor and didn't result in any sort of suspension/withdrawal.

 

[Sean Lee]

No, I wasn't suspended for it. I got my grade in the research course reduced, but that was it. It's still on my transcript though because it went to a committee.

What does it say on the transcript? Does the grade have an asterisk next to it signaling an academic violation?

 

[Sean Lee]

Also, did you contact the six schools you interviewed at and ask them what they thought?

 

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[listener23]

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[DokterMom]

There's a 'confidential' forum here somewhere where you can post more information anonymously (through a moderator) and get better feedback. Anyone starting to read here now would have virtually nothing to go on, so could offer no useful advice other that 'own it' and 'be honest' -- which I'm sure you've read here before.

 

[reapplicanthelpme2014]

There's a 'confidential' forum here somewhere where you can post more information anonymously (through a moderator) and get better feedback. Anyone starting to read here now would have virtually nothing to go on, so could offer no useful advice other that 'own it' and 'be honest' -- which I'm sure you've read here before.

Thank you for this. How do I contact someone from that confidential forum?

 

[DokterMom]

Here it is -- Good Luck -

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/forums/confidential-consult.268/