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Hello, I am looking to become a veterinarian. I am almost finished with my associates in science. I want to be able to do as much college online as possible. So my question is. If I become a vet tech online could I further my education online to become a veterinarian? Is there a different way to do it? Or is it not at all possible.
 
Hello, I am looking to become a veterinarian. I am almost finished with my associates in science. I want to be able to do as much college online as possible. So my question is. If I become a vet tech online could I further my education online to become a veterinarian? Is there a different way to do it? Or is it not at all possible.

Hi there. First, you should know that Vet Technicians and Veterinarians are two very different careers. You wouldn't get a nursing degree if you intend to become an MD. Same applies here.

I would recommend mapping the courses youve already taken against the pre-requisites you'd need to attend veterinary school to see where you are. I don't know of any way to get an online DVM.
 
Hello, I am looking to become a veterinarian. I am almost finished with my associates in science. I want to be able to do as much college online as possible. So my question is. If I become a vet tech online could I further my education online to become a veterinarian? Is there a different way to do it? Or is it not at all possible.
There will be some dvm schools that allow online prereqs but you will want to check with individual programs. you will need to look into your in state school and consider cost of education to determine which schools you would even want to apply to. I do not recommend going to tech school if your goal is to be a veterinarian. Focus on prereqs, you don't even need a bachelor's degree for many dvm programs.

There are several great threads on the main page of pre-vet that will go in depth on considerations for someone just looking into becoming a vet. Go check them out!

Read the most recent posts in this thread for ideas:
super conflicted on my future - advice?
 
There will be some dvm schools that allow online prereqs but you will want to check with individual programs. you will need to look into your in state school and consider cost of education to determine which schools you would even want to apply to. I do not recommend going to tech school if your goal is to be a veterinarian. Focus on prereqs, you don't even need a bachelor's degree for many dvm programs.

There are several great threads on the main page of pre-vet that will go in depth on considerations for someone just looking into becoming a vet. Go check them out!

Read the most recent posts in this thread for ideas:
super conflicted on my future - advice?

Please consider the cost of your education as only one third of your research into vet schools. Cost is important, yes, but please also consider your well-being. Not all in state schools are the best fit just because they are in state.

Also consider culture/climate as well as location. Saving money, but being unhappy could be a recipe for disaster. 🙂
 
Please consider the cost of your education as only one third of your research into vet schools. Cost is important, yes, but please also consider your well-being. Not all in state schools are the best fit just because they are in state.

Also consider culture/climate as well as location. Saving money, but being unhappy could be a recipe for disaster. 🙂

No, no, no, no and no. Do not spend over $250k for 4 years of school to be "happier" if you even will be. It is impossible to know if school A will be happier for you than school B until you get there and once there you won't know the damn difference.

4 years of putting up with a school is 1000000000000000% better than being in miserable amounts of unrelenting and unforgiving debt for the remainder of your entire life.
 
Please consider the cost of your education as only one third of your research into vet schools. Cost is important, yes, but please also consider your well-being. Not all in state schools are the best fit just because they are in state.

Also consider culture/climate as well as location. Saving money, but being unhappy could be a recipe for disaster. 🙂

While this is not explicitly wrong, you should obviously try to be happy during school, it is definitely misleading. No one can tell how happy they are going to be at any given school ahead of time. Evaluating the culture and climate of a school before you go there is quite frankly nonsense. Generally speaking you should always go to the cheapest school and hope for the best. There's no reason to go 100k+ more in debt just to go to your "dream school".
 
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Please consider the cost of your education as only one third of your research into vet schools. Cost is important, yes, but please also consider your well-being. Not all in state schools are the best fit just because they are in state.

Also consider culture/climate as well as location. Saving money, but being unhappy could be a recipe for disaster. 🙂

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You can live anywhere for four years. I lived in a place I hated for three years during my residency and was perfectly successful because my department was amazing and I got a fantastic education. Vet school is a set period of time to get the necessary education to perform in the field, and you should never go into even more serious amounts of lifelong debt just to live in a place you like a little better for ONLY FOUR YEARS (which is almost nothing in the grand scheme of your career). That can be a disaster.

If you were talking about, say, a first time job...then I would agree with you. Cost (or in this case, salary) is only one thing to consider. But considering the massive tuition differences between IS and OOS for vet school education......saying it should "only" be about a "third" of what an applicant should consider is vastly underestimating the long-term impacts.
 
It is impossible to know if school A will be happier for you than school B until you get there and once there you won't know the damn difference.
Second this! Vet school sucks whether you’re going to your “dream school” or your not-dream IS school. No matter where you go, it’s going to be a painful experience. It’s kinda supposed to be. No amount of “happiness” is worth the extra $100,000K + loan repayment stuff for only four years of unguaranteed “happiness”.
 
If I become a vet tech online could I further my education online to become a veterinarian? Is there a different way to do it? Or is it not at all possible.

Not really. As far as I'm aware, there are no veterinary schools that will accept all online-only prerequisites. Usually they're willing to accept a few (such as nutrition, if your school doesn't offer it in-house) but many want at least some of the upper level courses done at a 4 year university as opposed to community college or online.

And it isn't a good idea to go to tech school if you want to become a veterinarian. Focus on your application to vet school and use your time and money in that direction.
 
Not really. As far as I'm aware, there are no veterinary schools that will accept all online-only prerequisites. Usually they're willing to accept a few (such as nutrition, if your school doesn't offer it in-house) but many want at least some of the upper level courses done at a 4 year university as opposed to community college or online.

And it isn't a good idea to go to tech school if you want to become a veterinarian. Focus on your application to vet school and use your time and money in that direction.

And some schools won’t even count classes taken for a tech program as meeting their prereqs
 
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I hate to be so snarky, but I get tired of repeating myself (and I suspect everyone else who doles out this advice does, too). Don't choose a school just because you like the "vibe" or you think they are the best-known school for wombat pediatric medicine. GO TO THE CHEAPEST SCHOOL.

Unless someone else is footing the bill for you, that should be the most important consideration for almost everyone.
 
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I hate to be so snarky, but I get tired of repeating myself (and I suspect everyone else who doles out this advice does, too). Don't choose a school just because you like the "vibe" or you think they are the best-known school for wombat pediatric medicine. GO TO THE CHEAPEST SCHOOL.

Unless someone else is footing the bill for you, that should be the most important consideration for almost everyone.
Even if someone is footing the bill for you it should still be a major consideration.
But also, I enjoy the snark and use it when saying the same thing because it gets annoying repeating the same thing over and over...
 
I hate to be so snarky, but I get tired of repeating myself (and I suspect everyone else who doles out this advice does, too). Don't choose a school just because you like the "vibe" or you think they are the best-known school for wombat pediatric medicine. GO TO THE CHEAPEST SCHOOL.

Unless someone else is footing the bill for you, that should be the most important consideration for almost everyone.

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I don't how you could become a vet tech online anyway....being a tech is one of the most hands-on jobs in vet med there is. You can't practice placing caths with a keyboard.
I think you take the classroom classes online and then you have to find some place to do all of the hands on stuff? From my quick search.
 
I think you take the classroom classes online and then you have to find some place to do all of the hands on stuff? From my quick search.
Yes, one of the vet assistants I work with is doing online tech school. She had to be employed at a fully functioning clinic (with surgery suite, radiology, opportunity to practice blood draws and all that) during school, and then do a large animal “rotation” at the school in person for like 3 weeks since we’re only small and exotic. She likes it because she has the chance to only take a few classes at a time while still working and earning money. It’ll take her like 4 years instead of 2, but really depends on the person and if being a tech is really what they want to to.
I absolutely DO NOT recommend online tech school just to get a “leg up” for vet school. Not worth it.
 
I don't how you could become a vet tech online anyway....being a tech is one of the most hands-on jobs in vet med there is. You can't practice placing caths with a keyboard.

I think you take the classroom classes online and then you have to find some place to do all of the hands on stuff? From my quick search.

yeah, this. You basically have to get a number of hours and skills signed off on in a clinic to be able to complete the program
 
While this is not explicitly wrong, you should obviously try to be happy during school, it is definitely misleading. No one can tell how happy they are going to be at any given school ahead of time. Evaluating the culture and climate of a school before you go there is quite frankly nonsense. Generally speaking you should always go to the cheapest school and hope for the best. There's no reason to go 100k+ more in debt just to go to your "dream school".

Thanks for your comments. Culture and Climate are, in fact, critical. You want to be sure that you see your self in the student body, and even the faculty, of the school you are applying to. You want to ensure that you have the support that you need while in school by way of other students, clubs, and other activities that you have an interest in. In a profession that has one of the highest suicide rates, one should consider cost, location and climate as part of a student's overall wellness. I should note that not every applicant is the same, and not all vet schools are the same. Your situation is / was unique to you and your choice to apply to the cheapest school and "hope for the best" might not be the advice for all applicants.
 
Thanks for your comments. Culture and Climate are, in fact, critical. You want to be sure that you see your self in the student body, and even the faculty, of the school you are applying to. You want to ensure that you have the support that you need while in school by way of other students, clubs, and other activities that you have an interest in. In a profession that has one of the highest suicide rates, one should consider cost, location and climate as part of a student's overall wellness. I should note that not every applicant is the same, and not all vet schools are the same. Your situation is / was unique to you and your choice to apply to the cheapest school and "hope for the best" might not be the advice for all applicants.

These are factors that are much, much, MUCH more critical in the actual job market that the defined period of vet school itself.

The suicide rate in our profession is due to the crushing debt, compassion fatigue, dealing day in and day out with long hours and little pay for awful clients, etc. Not the location of where you went to school for a few years, how many clubs they have, the weather, etc. If location, climate, and "seeing yourself" (whatever that means) were so "critical" to well-being, we would be seeing rampant suicide during the schooling period of every 4 year professional degree. During the working years, as I said, this can be a different matter and many more factors other than salary need to be considered.

Look, I'm not trying to downplay student wellness. As someone who struggled a lot with wellness during vet school, I get it. But you simply cannot compare the negative impact on *lifetime* wellness that a massively increased debt load can have to the transient and smaller effect that living in a place you don't like for four years can have. They simply aren't equivalent.
 
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These are factors that are much, much, MUCH more critical in the actual job market that the defined period of vet school itself.

The suicide rate in our profession is due to the crushing debt, compassion fatigue, dealing day in and day out with long hours and little pay for awful clients, etc. Not the location of where you went to school for a few years, how many clubs they have, the weather, etc. If location, climate, and "seeing yourself" (whatever that means) were so "critical" to well-being, we would be seeing rampant suicide during the schooling period of every 4 year professional degree. During the working years, as I said, this can be a different matter and many more factors other than salary need to be considered.

Look, I'm not trying to downplay student wellness. As someone who struggled a lot with wellness during vet school, I get it. But you simply cannot compare the negative impact on *lifetime* wellness that a massively increased debt load can have to the transient and smaller effect that living in a place you don't like for four years can have. They simply aren't equivalent.

Thanks for your comments. I always appreciate hearing others opinions.

Tony
 
Thanks for your comments. I always appreciate hearing others opinions.

Tony

It's not just an "opinion" - anyone can have an opinion. Some people opine that the world is flat. This is advice based on financial realities.

VMCAS is an excellent resource for the technicalities of application. I would never argue that and I am glad you are taking the time to provide this resource on these forums. However, when it comes to career and financial issues, I would argue that the best guidance comes from people who are actually in the field. I have not spent over ten years on these forums because I have nothing better to do - it is because I want to educate students on the realities of the difficult profession that we all love. Not to dissuade or rain on parades, but to be real - so that my new and upcoming colleagues can have an easier time in their lifelong career than previous colleagues have had.
 
I absolutely value the positive support from the veterinary professionals, please don't think otherwise. My goal is only to broaden the scope of how pre-veterinary students and applicants choose a school and make the most informed decisions possible in doing so. Like you, I have spend the last ten years trying to get pre-vet students to consider all options and to arm them with every possible consideration in making educated choices.

Tony
 
I absolutely value the positive support from the veterinary professionals, please don't think otherwise. My goal is only to broaden the scope of how pre-veterinary students and applicants choose a school and make the most informed decisions possible in doing so. Like you, I have spend the last ten years trying to get pre-vet students to consider all options and to arm them with every possible consideration in making educated choices.

Tony

There's no way to say this without sounding like a jerk, so let's just be a jerk I guess. According to every current vet student and graduated vet on here, your advice to pre-vets is bad. Maybe you should change it or stop giving it. Go read the new Merck Wellbeing study out in JAVMA a couple months ago. By far the most pressing problems for graduates in the past 10 years are financial. Every single applicant is a little different but the undisputed best blanket advice to every since one is "go to your cheapest school". I would argue this goes beyond "opinion" to "actively harmful".

I said this my original post but I'll reiterate here. There is no way to evaluate the culture of a school before you go there. Talking about as if we can is a nice of way of stroking our egos but it's a mirage. The tour guide was super nice and friendly? Means nothing, the place could be a toxic dump. A professor asked a rude question during at interview? Means nothing, the place could be the most supportive school you've ever been to. I would argue that first couple months of vet school is so disorienting that first years don't truly know whether they like a school until at least mid-terms (this point is admittedly debatable).
 
I absolutely value the positive support from the veterinary professionals, please don't think otherwise. My goal is only to broaden the scope of how pre-veterinary students and applicants choose a school and make the most informed decisions possible in doing so. Like you, I have spend the last ten years trying to get pre-vet students to consider all options and to arm them with every possible consideration in making educated choices.

Tony

1. You are a veterinarian, then?
2. When did you graduate?
3. What were your total student loans upon graduation?

I'm willing to bet your answers to #2 and #3 are such that you are VERY out of touch with the current situation. But you really shouldn't be, because you work for VMCAS ffs. But your answer indicates that you are, in fact, out of touch with just how devastating the debt is for veterinarians right now.

Maybe you should join one of the anti-suicide vet groups on facebook and get face-to-face with these vets with $250k in debt, jobs that burn them out, and no easy way out of it. You need to see the "after" part of this idealistic point of view you have here.

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I wasn't kidding, man. This is serious. You need to acknowledge that.
 
Thanks for your comments. Culture and Climate are, in fact, critical. You want to be sure that you see your self in the student body, and even the faculty, of the school you are applying to. You want to ensure that you have the support that you need while in school by way of other students, clubs, and other activities that you have an interest in. In a profession that has one of the highest suicide rates, one should consider cost, location and climate as part of a student's overall wellness. I should note that not every applicant is the same, and not all vet schools are the same. Your situation is / was unique to you and your choice to apply to the cheapest school and "hope for the best" might not be the advice for all applicants.

As someone who attended two vet schools, you're living in a fantasy world. You could tour a school 10 times over and still have a completely unexpected experience when attending. There is NO WAY to know the "climate" of a school until you attend that school. Even the climate between classroom and fourth year clinical rotations can be vastly different. Just because a school has "x" club doesn't mean it is super active or even providing what is needed. And just because a school offers certain "support groups" doesn't mean they'll be any good.

As one of those now graduated students who is staring down $350k in debt, I DO KNOW WHAT THAT IS LIKE. Holy effing hell PLEASE STOP recommending that people take on this level of debt to obtain some idealistic version of a "dream school" that is no more real than Mickey Mouse. It is actively destroying this profession and YOU are partly responsible for being ignorant of the impact your poor advice is having.

And stop acting as if you have any room to talk about the debt and suicide prevalent in this profession when you are clearly part of the problem.

Get a DVM degree then come back and advise these students about "dream schools". Except, you won't, you'd realize how horrible of a recommendation that truly is.
 
Heck, I graduated in-state with 135k back in 2010. After three years of residency and five years of fellowship/PhD, it's up to about 200k - can you imagine what it would have been if I went OOS? My starting salary is pretty darn good, but even then a sizeable chunk it going to be loans - I can't even imagine doing it on a GP vet salary.
 
Heck, I graduated in-state with 135k back in 2010. After three years of residency and five years of fellowship/PhD, it's up to about 200k - can you imagine what it would have been if I went OOS? My starting salary is pretty darn good, but even then a sizeable chunk it going to be loans - I can't even imagine doing it on a GP vet salary.
My debt was relatively low as well. But if I weren't married, I wouldn't be able to make the payments I need to. It's stupid. Go to the cheaper school. Even at my lower debt level, the mental impact is astonishing
 
Even the interest accrued in the two years I took off for phd work has pushed mine much higher than I had intended. Not to mention the ever increasing yearly tuition rates on top of it compared to when I would have graduated. I thank myself constantly that I put my efforts into the cheapest option for myself. I will be a lone wolf paying it off, so it has to remain low to have some semblance of a healthy lifestyle once I graduate.
 
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