Heme Onc Chances

[orthomyxostudent]

Haven't posted in years on this website! How much research is needed for Heme/onc? I have about 17-20 research experiences on ERAS but I am wondering if I should I include the pending publications too. What are my chances? I am considering applying to 20-30 programs coming from a community program.

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[MD46]

Need more info:

1. Quality of research: posters, case reports etc
2. AMG or IMG
3. Applying to what type of programs? Aim to goto academics? Research? Community practice?
4. In my opinion if the pending publication is a major research project then its worth mentioning, wouldn't mention a case report submitted to an IF 2.5 journal pending approval

 

[HemeOncHopeful19]

That's about 13-15 more research experiences than I had

 

[orthomyxostudent]

Need more info:

1. Quality of research: posters, case reports etc
2. AMG or IMG
3. Applying to what type of programs? Aim to goto academics? Research? Community practice?
4. In my opinion if the pending publication is a major research project then its worth mentioning, wouldn't mention a case report submitted to an IF 2.5 journal pending approval

About 3 publications, rest are case reports and QI and posters.
AMG in community program
Most are community and academics very few programs are community-based.

 

[orthomyxostudent]

That's about 13-15 more research experiences than I had

Hopefully it means something to do all of this research. Otherwise, it is a waste of time.

 

[osprey099]

Research is overhyped. The 3 things that make up 95% of an application is AMG, perceived strength of residency program, perceived strength of medical school.

The other 5% is some combo of letters, research, step scores (although now its pass fail), and etc.

 

[MD46]

About 3 publications, rest are case reports and QI and posters.
AMG in community program
Most are community and academics very few programs are community-based.

I think for a Mid Tier program you have enough, for AMG even, would apply 40-50 programs to be safe.

 

[orthomyxostudent]

Research is overhyped. The 3 things that make up 95% of an application is AMG, perceived strength of residency program, perceived strength of medical school.

The other 5% is some combo of letters, research, step scores (although now its pass fail), and etc.

Is the DO bias still there in fellowship? That’s something that’s also giving me anxiety. My program is a new community program but they have some in house fellowships.

 

[orthomyxostudent]

I think for a Mid Tier program you have enough, for AMG even, would apply 40-50 programs to be safe.

I am not picky about any program just trying to be an oncologist but thank you!

 

[osprey099]

Is the DO bias still there in fellowship? That’s something that’s also giving me anxiety. My program is a new community program but they have some in house fellowships.

Honestly probably depends on the program. If you take a look at a lot of the upper/upper mid program fellowship rosters, you won't find many DOs. At my program, I know of at least 2 attendings (old and old school) who have significant bias against DOs.

 

[HemeOncHopeful19]

Research is overhyped. The 3 things that make up 95% of an application is AMG, perceived strength of residency program, perceived strength of medical school.

The other 5% is some combo of letters, research, step scores (although now its pass fail), and etc.

Step Scores, Letters and Research (if legit) matter a bit more than that IMO - and I've been at rank list meetings - but I agree it's all important. AMG isn't as big of a deal at some programs our field is pretty IMG friendly compared to other IM fellowships.

I agree DO still has a penalty although I would bet this is program dependent. I imagine there are "less prestigious" programs who see DOs as a chance to grab an excellent fellow that bigger programs might miss out on.

 

[azn32]

I just matched and yup still there.

What do you think made you stand out as a DO?