I am just wondering why more people are not talking about Henry Ford. The pathology and acuity seen there is incredible. Very little surgery interference with trauma and procedures are plentiful. Is there dirt that I dont know about?
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Henry Ford is a great program. A lot of EM research comes out of here and you're absolutely right about the pathology, etc. THe only major drawback.....it's in Detroit. Detroit is a great place to come to see pathology....and that's about it. (except for the international auto show)
Its also a great place to get shanked on the way to your car.
Detroit is not as bad as everyone makes it out to be. True, it is not a great city like CHicago (for Midwest flair), or NYC, Philly, etc. However, it does have its moments.
As for safety: Typically not a problem. Granted, it is the most dangerous city in America; however, you are not going to walk down a dark alley in Detroit, Chicago, Atlanta, NY, Phily, etc. If you are safe, it is a very safe city.
Now, if they would ever catch those two dudes that are responsible for the majority of crimes in the town, or if people would stop sitting on their porch "mindin' my own bidness", things would change in terms of the danger level.
As for HFH..cannot comment on it as I am not there; however, it is not the hospital with the highest acuity according to Detroit EMS stats.
As for safety: Typically not a problem. Granted, it is the most dangerous city in America; however, you are not going to walk down a dark alley in Detroit, Chicago, Atlanta, NY, Phily, etc. If you are safe, it is a very safe city.
Now, if they would ever catch those two dudes that are responsible for the majority of crimes in the town, or if people would stop sitting on their porch "mindin' my own bidness", things would change in terms of the danger level.
As for HFH..cannot comment on it as I am not there; however, it is not the hospital with the highest acuity according to Detroit EMS stats.
"MMOB" is about the most dangerous thing anyone can be doing around midnight I think. If I recall, the residents at Henry Ford also do a month at Detroit Receiving (I could be confused though) for trauma. At any rate, the programs in Detroit are well respected and there are some big names in Emergency Medicine with great research especially at Henry Ford. And I remember on my interview day being promised car discounts as well. If you can stand the cold, Henry Ford would be a great place to train.
I trained at Henry Ford and spent 5 yrs there (IM/EM) from 96-01. Very solid program all around. Great pathology, the place is not for the weak hearted or stomached. You will become very comfortable with taking care of sick, sick patients.
After Rivers (who is still there and a wonderful mentor) published the NEJM article on Goal Directed Therapy, Ford's ED got a renovated ICU in the ED which is better than the ICU that I currently practice in!!!
The acuity of all the Detroit hospitals are equal, DMC, Grace, Ford, even St. Johns. We all see enough trauma we don't have to leave our respective programs. Beaumont used to send their residents down to DMC. I'm not sure about this now.
Detroit is very rough. It was a jewel back before the riots and the flight to the suburbs in the 60's. A resurgence is planned and the city is trying to lure more yuppies back to the inner city, like Chicago. The burbs are beautiful, but a little pricey. Michigan in general is a beautiful state.
Ford's residents used to rotate to Children's hospital and the DMC for the Toxicology elective. No need for Detroit to have multiple poison centers, so our toxicologist worked at the DMC as well. Everybody seems to get along, but every program is so busy that when we used to get time off we didn't want to hang around other docs.
If you want great inner city, high acuity training in EM, Ford, DMC, Grace, St. Johns are all great programs. Most residents I worked with "sucked it up" for the 3 years and can go anywhere they wanted when they finished.
Good luck with the match,
Kyle
After Rivers (who is still there and a wonderful mentor) published the NEJM article on Goal Directed Therapy, Ford's ED got a renovated ICU in the ED which is better than the ICU that I currently practice in!!!
The acuity of all the Detroit hospitals are equal, DMC, Grace, Ford, even St. Johns. We all see enough trauma we don't have to leave our respective programs. Beaumont used to send their residents down to DMC. I'm not sure about this now.
Detroit is very rough. It was a jewel back before the riots and the flight to the suburbs in the 60's. A resurgence is planned and the city is trying to lure more yuppies back to the inner city, like Chicago. The burbs are beautiful, but a little pricey. Michigan in general is a beautiful state.
Ford's residents used to rotate to Children's hospital and the DMC for the Toxicology elective. No need for Detroit to have multiple poison centers, so our toxicologist worked at the DMC as well. Everybody seems to get along, but every program is so busy that when we used to get time off we didn't want to hang around other docs.
If you want great inner city, high acuity training in EM, Ford, DMC, Grace, St. Johns are all great programs. Most residents I worked with "sucked it up" for the 3 years and can go anywhere they wanted when they finished.
Good luck with the match,
Kyle
