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bakanoisha said:
I agree 100%. I was just saying that people who have done exceptionally well for several years who are being dragged down by extremely old grades have my sympathies. However, I'd still encourage them to follow the rules.
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Agreed. To overcome rough patches by replacing them with good grades is a good topic to place focus when applying. 👍
 
bakanoisha said:
What I said was perfectly understandable. Being that I'm not British, I don't know British slang. Simple enough. I already said if that's not what you intended, my apologies. No need for the 3rd grade response.
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relax guy, i was laughing at the sod-off --> sawed off --> murderous intent chain of thought. americans...
 
bleargh said:
relax guy, i was laughing at the sod-off --> sawed off --> murderous intent chain of thought. americans...
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My bad... but quite a few of your posts have been a little hostile, so I interpreted it that way.
 
bakanoisha said:
Great point. And, on top of that how many people "embellished" their volunteer record? I know more people than I would have every hoped who just made crap up for the volunteering portion of the application because they knew nobody checked.
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I remember reading an SDN thread a while back that discussed people being caught exaggerating their volunteer hours.
 
futureboy said:
I remember reading an SDN thread a while back that discussed people being caught exaggerating their volunteer hours.
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Yep, I've heard of that happening too. And lieing about ECs. Piano playing seems to be a common lie that I have heard get called out on. I was called on me discussing my love of history of medicine. The whole interview was for me to lecture on it. Fortunately, I wasn't lieing.

These are also criticized by folks on SDN, and they also have risks associated to them.
 
I mentioned on my med school application that I was a soloist for my college a capella group. My statement was true but I got called out on it and had to sing during an interview. Fortunately, I have a great voice and I delivered a nice performance.
 
searun said:
I mentioned on my med school application that I was a soloist for my college a capella group. My statement was true but I got called out on it and had to sing during an interview. Fortunately, I have a great voice and I delivered a nice performance.
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Good for you! It's sad that people are lying on their applications to the point that med schools feel they need to call people out in interviews.
 
bakanoisha said:
My bad... but quite a few of your posts have been a little hostile, so I interpreted it that way.
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my e-persona is admittedly prickly. but i wasn't trying to insult you or anything, it was just a good laugh on my part.
 
Yeah... I understand it's easy to come off "the wrong way" on a forum. So, I typically don't hold it against many people. However, there are a few people on this board I'd avoid like the plague in any situation (on- or offline), but they typically troll up the political forums. LOL
 
bakanoisha said:
Yeah... I understand it's easy to come off "the wrong way" on a forum. So, I typically don't hold it against many people. However, there are a few people on this board I'd avoid like the plague in any situation (on- or offline), but they typically troll up the political forums. LOL
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I hate to inform you, but you've leveled your character poorly. You need to put more stat points into Speech.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Speech

And oh dear God, you got called out to SING?! If I get called out to paint or program I will commit seppuku then and there. Namely because I carry neither my paintbrushes and paints nor my computer loaded with programming software.

If the paints are provided, the adcoms are in for a treat 😀 I would also throw in a surprise surcharge in response to the surprise painting.
 
don't lie. that's a form of cheating. you'd probably get away with it, though. honestly, med schools are filled with premed cheaters anyway. you wouldn't be unique.

personally, this is why I think it is good to believe in a religion that punishes ppl for being immoral. if you aren't caught by man, you know who is always watching. if you don't have a religion or morals, then I don't see why you wouldn't cheat.

besides, you're going to do whatever you want, irrespective of what ppl on this forum tell you.
 
Compass said:
I hate to inform you, but you've leveled your character poorly. You need to put more stat points into Speech.
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Given you're talking about the Speech trait, I'm not quite sure if that was supposed to be a burn or if you're just saying I'm not convincing in my statment. But, w/e... Fallout is a fun game and it seems you've played it, so I guess you're okay. 😎
 
rocketbooster said:
don't lie. that's a form of cheating. you'd probably get away with it, though. honestly, med schools are filled with premed cheaters anyway.

besides, you're going to do whatever you want, irrespective of what ppl on this forum tell you.
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Sad. Sociopathy is bad. Bad.

Hear that Qcumber?
 
If they are asking the question it means they don't know the answer
 
mmmcdowe said:
I'm tempted to encourage you to do it, just so you get punished for being so slimy.

They have your SSN, there is a way for them to find every school that you have ever attended using it, and you will be expelled from the cycle for not telling the truth. Then again, they might not check, so you could get away with it.
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How are you knowledgable of this subject? What do you know?
 
Chances are that they will find it. As they say, honesty is the best policy. If it says all previous transcripts then that is what they mean, period. I know it sucks, but that is just the way it is. Maybe it will turn into a good story of how you turned things around.
 
bigal40 said:
If they are asking the question it means they don't know the answer
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Not true. They ask if you have been convicted of crimes, but they can find that out. The app is a test to see if you will tell the truth. If you lye, they know that you are not med-school material. It is possible they don't know, but chances are they will find out, especially if one lyes, that is just the way luck goes.
 
Disclose your previous grades. Don't do something stupid like this.
 
Can we get some facts here? Instead of heresay. The clearing house can be dealt with. I suggest one looks into it. They have found a loophole to bypass your FERPA rights for a profit by using legal trickery, but they weren't able to completely circumvent the law. You have to research the system and make changes in your profile preferences.
Also, more difficult is if you ever took out a public loan. If so, please correct me if I'm wrong, the school will match your past history with the amount of credits worth of loans you can take out. I think.

Can a counselor fill us in?

Also, don't think that people will have a heart or that you have rights or something. As a private entity, the school can do whatever it wants, like an employer. It's all about taking people down. There is a lady in a neighboring MBA program that is getting kicked out because she didn't cite Wiki on a open-note test. She will be kicked out of the country and not given a visa again.
 
gdi this post is so old i wasn't even on the same acct at the time

ugh i feel olddddddddddddd
 
While you're at it you should also make up half (or all) of your volunteering experience. Since it is just SO UNFAIR that you have to jump through all these hoops to get into medical school and you're already looking to cut corners.

(old post is old)
 
This is just ridiculous.

I got a b in biochem a year and a half ago. Should I be judged on that even though it happened sooooo long ago?

But seriously how do we decide when someone was " really trying". Of course all your grades should count because that's the standard of the medical school admissions process. I'm sure there are lots of people who wish they could selectively remove grades from their record, but it's not fair to all the people who didn't fail and worked hard from the very beginning. You don't have a right to become a doctor, it's a priviledge (sp?).

If they find out they will expel you, even I your 4th year, there's precedent for it.
 
Guys... there IS a database that has every college you attended. Whether you were part time/full time. And how long you went there. It exists. Every accredited college/university participates to prevent THIS kind of dishonesty.
 
Were you at community college full time?

Seriously...what's gonna happen when you interview and they ask you what you did during those year(s) you were in CC getting F's. The will ask you this...no question. Then you don't tell them about your CC exploits and make up some other story? Well...that moves from not revealing information to actively lying about it. And you'd have to be in that situation. Never put yourself in the place to devalue your integrity in the medical school admisssions process.

You may end up in a much worse situation.

Whats your GPA with the F's included? Slash...why were you getting F's at community college to begin with?
 
My pre-health advisor told me that AAMC randomly selects some applications for comprehensive verification and that they're trying to get the number up to 30% over the next few years.

People that make threads like this are the reason we have to scan our thumbs, empty our pockets for exams and send photos on all our applications.
 
red10 said:
But don't you think it makes for a much better story to say "look I struggled and I overcame it because I am a strong person and I fought for what I have" ? So yea it sucks that they're bad grades on there but then again, it shows that you didn't have an easy path and yet you figured it out and came out better because of it.

If I were an adcom I'd want to admit the person who struggled and still wound up with a 35 and a great GPA than the person who got a 35 and a great GPA because daddy paid for a private tutor since age 5.
It shows character and maturity NOT weakness if you show that you've grown.
The OP hasn't grown which is the problem. they've learned nothing from their struggles otherwise they'd put those bad grades on there, write a baller essay and say "take me as I am because I know I'm going to be a great doctor even with Fs". Instead they're trying to sneak and squirm their way in.
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You totally just wrote pretty much what I was going to say after reading all the responses, lol, but I'm going to write my opinion anyway. I think it's harsh to call the OP scum just based on this one post which can be seen as someone who is worried about this past academic disaster and just wants the best shot they can give themselves at a career they seem to really truly want to pursue (given the whole, self-discovery nature of the post). I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you posted this looking for information no one you know could explain to you or has shown you. There is a reason why there is a personal statement in the AMCAS. It gives you an opportunity to explain that part of your life to the adcom and show them how you found your way to medicine (within a certain amt of space - they don't want a novel, they want you to show them you can be descriptive yet concise). So, although it might pain you to write those F's and W's in, it's only fair b/c you get a chance to explain. That being said, I do find it a bit questionable that you haven't taken anyone's advice to heart by continuing to ask how likely it is they will find out if you omit this info. Be honest, own up to your mistakes or downfalls and show how you've grown and why this may make you a better candidate that others.
Just like we can't just get rid of a bad grade in our transcript, you can't just get rid of a bad academic history.

But hey, if you want to leave it out it's your deal. Shows some character issues there, but it's your decision and you just have to live with the possible consequences of that dicision. You have no one to blame if 2 years into med school you get kicked out and all of that 3.9/35MCAT stuff just went to nothing. Being a doctor is more than just getting into medical school, that's just the first step.
 
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