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[FreakyFreak]

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I talked to a kid today who is an M1 who was rejected on his first app despite having a 3.85, 12s and 13s on all the science sections of the MCAT because he bombed the verbal part. That is absurdity. Who cares about the verbal crap ? This is med school NOT a liberal arts school. In general I think they should do away with the verbal section and stop allowing non-science undergrads into med school.

 

[bewitched1081]

i actually talked to a dr on an adcom who thinks the verbal part is the most important. even if someone scores a 10 or above, he still makes a note if it's the lowest section. i don't agree with him, but just fyi.

 

[bewitched1081]

also, "non-science" undergrads still have to take all of the med school pre-admission requirements, which i believe more than qualifies them to attend medical school.

 

[iamgoaloriented]

In the book U Pitt sends the dean says that they once rejected a guy who had a masters degree from a prestigious school and "the highest mcat he had ever seen" cos he didn't mutter a word in the interview. Guy was brilliant but not cut out to be a doc.

 

[frantic983]

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[Bap2qwrq7]

I talked to a kid today who is an M1 who was rejected on his first app despite having a 3.85, 12s and 13s on all the science sections of the MCAT because he bombed the verbal part. That is absurdity. Who cares about the verbal crap ? This is med school NOT a liberal arts school. In general I think they should do away with the verbal section and stop allowing non-science undergrads into med school.

Haha. A little bitter?

Just take a deep breath and relax. The verbal section, although a pain, I think is very important. Being in professional school requires that one has the ability to read unfamiliar information and get the main ideas and understand it quickly.

http://www.aamc.org/students/mcat/research/bibliography/velos001.htm

This paper offers some conclusion on how the verbal section is a good indicator of future performance in medical school on certain tests.

So it does offer some benefits.

Plus, why the hate for non science majors? I am a biology major but thats just because I am better at the science subjects then non-science subjects, plus it was easier to fulfill my pre-reqs. Non-science majors still have to complete a year of biology, chem, o-chem and physics, plus labs to apply to most medical schools. It's basically an even playing field.

 

[skoaner]

also, "non-science" undergrads still have to take all of the med school pre-admission requirements, which i believe more than qualifies them to attend medical school.

Hardly. Advanced science courses require logic and deductive reasoning --things basic introductory review couses such as bio/physics/o-chem/gen-chem can not and do not teach. They should require 15 credits of upper level sciences including but not limited to: genetics, biochemistry, calculus, and analytical chemistry. I don't care if you're not a science major but you have to think like a scientist.

 

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I talked to a kid today who is an M1 who was rejected on his first app despite having a 3.85, 12s and 13s on all the science sections of the MCAT because he bombed the verbal part. That is absurdity. Who cares about the verbal crap ? This is med school NOT a liberal arts school. In general I think they should do away with the verbal section and stop allowing non-science undergrads into med school.

This is the most ignorant post i have read for some time. I am not even going to waste my time explaining to you what an idiot you are. 👎

 

[AMG_MD]

This is the most ignorant post i have read for some time. I am not even going to waste my time explaining to you what an idiot you are. 👎

I second that motion

 

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Hardly. Advanced science courses require logic and deductive reasoning --things basic introductory review couses such as bio/physics/o-chem/gen-chem can not and do not teach. They should require 15 credits of upper level sciences including but not limited to: genetics, biochemistry, calculus, and analytical chemistry. I don't care if you're not a science major but you have to think like a scientist.

Hmmm, well I am a philosophy major and the last time I checked, Logic was a philosophy course and we did plenty of deductive reasoning. As a matter of fact, much science is actually Inductive reasoning, as is most medicine. Some people are so ignorant and narrow minded that I really question whether they should be physicians.

 

[riven5]

Verbal section's my strength...guess it comes from all that crap I learned from my liberal arts major that said, I don't think people should get rejected based on that one section...everyone has strengths and weaknesses that they can work on. Such as (godawful electricity and magnetism in physics) for me.

 

[Bap2qwrq7]

Hardly. Advanced science courses require logic and deductive reasoning --things basic introductory review couses such as bio/physics/o-chem/gen-chem can not and do not teach. They should require 15 credits of upper level sciences including but not limited to: genetics, biochemistry, calculus, and analytical chemistry. I don't care if you're not a science major but you have to think like a scientist.

Don't forget, no one's forcing you to be a science major. If medical school is your ultimate goal you have to realize that numbers do play a significant role in many cases and you have to plan accordingly. It is useless to go through extremely intense classes struggling to get by gradewise, even if you learn a lot from the class if it really screws up your GPA.

Besides, medical school is where you can start to learn how to think like a scientist. Undergrad stuff is based more on memorization usually. Well that's just my experience, YMMV.

 

[USCTex]

I talked to a kid today who is an M1 who was rejected on his first app despite having a 3.85, 12s and 13s on all the science sections of the MCAT because he bombed the verbal part. That is absurdity. Who cares about the verbal crap ? This is med school NOT a liberal arts school. In general I think they should do away with the verbal section and stop allowing non-science undergrads into med school.

Well this is coming from someone who kicked the living daylight out of the verbal and did only average on the science sections, so take this as my opinion.

How often as a doctor do you think you're going to use the basic science you learn in college or hell even your first two years of med school? 🙂 Coming from a physician-parent family - apparently less than you'd imagine. While it depends on your speciality (yeah a surgeon may use some of his anatomy class, a critical care physician uses pharm, etc.) all that memorization amounts to...well not a lot 🙂

Verbal tests your analytical and problem solving skills (as has already been stated) and I would argue probably is as a good of judge of your future as a physician than the science sections on the MCAT.

Just my opinion though.

 

[striped sweater]

IMHO verbal is the section you can memorize for the least and tests your thinking skills the most. That said, it was my worst section also. Does anyone actually do good on it?

no, but there are those who do well on it.

 

[sdnUser500]

I talked to a kid today who is an M1 who was rejected on his first app despite having a 3.85, 12s and 13s on all the science sections of the MCAT because he bombed the verbal part.

Are you saying he was rejected to all schools his first round of applying, but then re-took the mcat, improved his VR, and then got in? Or he was just rejected to one particular school?

 

[PBR727]

During one of my interviews, a doctor told me that the verbal section is the best predictor of how well students do on the USMLE. If true, that should make it a very important section when deciding who they want at their school.

 

[USCTex]

This thread was a joke seeing as the OP next post was "Do pre-med girls know what to do with a big %^$#"

Troll defintley. And I was caught...that'll teach me to post my opinion on stupid threads 😀

 

[riven5]

Just thought I would note that I just realized that the original poster has two or three controversial-type threads running at the same time so I'm thinking I'm not going to bother responding to them anymore. Night, to those on the east coast.

 

[coincidental]

Am I the only person who senses a troll here?

see the thread s/he also started on the supriority of engineering over all other majors.

 

[JMD]

Who cares about the verbal crap ? This is med school NOT a liberal arts school. In general I think they should do away with the verbal section and stop allowing non-science undergrads into med school.

Maybe some kids with high scores don't get in because they make their ignorance blatantly obvious when expressing their narrow-minded view of the world.

You're right. They probably shouldn't have let, for example, Eric Kandel into medical school because he majored in history and literature. In fact, they probably should revoke his Nobel prize for being a non-science major.

 

[leiface]

http://www.aamc.org/students/mcat/research/bibliography/velos001.htm

Anybody else read this article? The finding about Asian American students is sorta disturbing. Any suggestions on why Asian Americans perform worse than Caucasian students in med school?