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sidefx said:
At first I was like

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But then I got to the end and saw you drink white whine instead of red whine

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imo red is primarily for drunks and people whose tastebuds are dead. A superior red > white, but I'd rather pay $400 for scotch than wine.
 
sidefx said:
How much do you deadlift bro?
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Sorry, I don't listen to weightlifting dogma about compound lifts and the so-called "trinity" of press/dead/squat totals. I prefer to list my leg press, calf raise, weight-assisted dips and ez-bar curl totals.
 
Brain Bucket said:
imo red is primarily for drunks and people whose tastebuds are dead. A superior red > white, but I'd rather pay $400 for scotch than wine.
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Scotch is gross. I can't. It's like permanent markers liquified

Red wine stains teef. And it also tastes gross.There's like one I can tolerate, it's the Cabernet from silver oak in napa.

Besides that, vouvray and champagne is what I like 😀
 
solitarius said:
I guess it's not surprising that some med students prefer accepted dogma and conformity in all aspects of their lives besides just medical training.

Not sure why you choose to obsess about six days a week. That's six days, one hour each visit. Previously, it was four days, 90 minutes each visit. Some time ago, it was three days, two hours each visit. The total time per week has not changed. Besides the obvious advantage of exercising on a near daily basis, it's preference and adaptation.

There are advantages to going six days a week, which essentially is separating the body into three muscle groups as opposed to two. A high mass load on one day can be complemented by a lower mass load on the second rotation. Stressing the muscle while it's minimally sore has been effective for "tone" and "building" strength. And then there's the advantage of customizing your workout without having to conform to the compound lift regimen.
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Did you read what I said? Do you want to talk about the biochemistry of " toning your muscles?" There's shoddy research at best to talk about spot-reduction of fat in aerobically active tissue, which I'll admit has slightly more validity than commonly thought, however the holistic approach to fat loss is still 100x more efficacious and just simpler, especially for lower level athletes.

What you said is much more of the "accepted dogma" than what I said. The compounds are what are now starting to take hold. It's funny you paint me out as the mainstream one, when you are doing the whole isolation thing that you see 99 percent of the people in the gym that get nowhere doing. What is the biochemical basis of anything you said? You are getting to the point in your academic career where the concepts have a huge amount of potential application that you can use to improve your own training and performance, I suggest you start doing so. This is a great way to learn for school while also understanding and validating/contradicting thoughts you have about the fitness world. With regards to physiology, I suggest you look up the hormonal responses from aerobic vs anaerobic exercise. Biochem + phys = every medical student should have at least a half-a** understanding of how exercising works, so it makes no sense to me how still 95 percent of them make 0 progress. I guess it's just the whole binge and purge without ever understanding anything. If you take the time to learn these subjects and learn them well, agree with my thoughts or not, you will be able to improve your training.

Not that this matters, but if you look at my username, and then see the numbers that follow it, it's pretty simple to see what my primary interest is. I just really think you should approach your fitness notions objectively and look at the science behind them. It should seem quite clear the benefits/drawbacks of each.
 
Deadlifts said:
Sorry, I don't listen to weightlifting dogma about compound lifts and the so-called "trinity" of press/dead/squat totals. I prefer to list my leg press, calf raise, weight-assisted dips and ez-bar curl totals.
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Sumo is for cheaters. And if you pull conventional, you only pull a lot because you have long arms. Damn genetics.

Not serious.
 
I want to get into home brewing so badly.

Is listing future hobbies allowed?
 
sidefx said:
But at what cost?
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lol what? I'm pretty lean now but I'm a bit too tall to be a 198 ( 5'10 ). Honestly too tall for a 220 so with the IPF changing the classes and making a 105 kg class, that's probably where I'll end up.
 
PL198 said:
lol what? I'm pretty lean now but I'm a bit too tall to be a 198 ( 5'10 ). Honestly too tall for a 220 so with the IPF changing the classes and making a 105 kg class, that's probably where I'll end up.
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lol he was just citing an old Misc meme (refer to Andro Taylor).

"I made the mistake and may look great, but at the cost of what?" - Andro
 
JP2740 said:
Some chick after we had sex and we were all cuddled up asked me what my vice is (trying to have an intellectual conversation). I said alcohol. She got pissed for some reason. I feel like non-med students don't understand our inner need to drink. ****. I was never like this
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Do you ever feel like you need a drink in the morning? Just as an eye-opener? I drank a crap ton in undergrad but rarely do now in medical school. I get my jollies off at the gym and elsewhere. I have friends who have gotten sh**-faced a lot in medical school, and everybody knows who they are because they don't know when to stop. I worry about them, and I worry about you too, bud.
 
Running, lifting, fishing, reading, martial arts, camping, as well as ssbm/pm semi-competitively. I imagine that come August I'll have to say goodbye to all but exercise.
 
Been playing the Game of Thrones Mod for Crusader Kings II, it's fun to play everyone from Robb Stark to Rhaegar Targaryen. It's a blast to play Joffrey too. 🙂

Haven't been exercising much though, lost some motivation to do it. 🙁
 
DrEnderW said:
Nice - whose your character?

I played Halo competitively but couldn't keep it up this year.
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I play marth in melee and marth/G&W in PM. A couple weeks ago I played with the top ranked player in Wisconsin and got absolutely trasssshed.
 
Laufcra said:
I play marth in melee and marth/G&W in PM. A couple weeks ago I played with the top ranked player in Wisconsin and got absolutely trasssshed.
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G&W huh, good man. Never was a marth guy. Fox and Link were mine, but I was never that good.
 
Lately my hobbies have mostly just been woodworking, gardening (generally weird heirloom plant varieties), photography, and cooking. My first attempt at home brewing went pretty well. I also would like to try metalworking at some point. If I could, I’d go hiking regularly and maybe get back into gaming.
 
Kahreek said:
what you do with wood?
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I like to try new things so I'm kind of all over the place. If I ever get enough time, I need to finish some boxes and a bar. I also recently found a group where I can work with new techniques like woodturning.
 
a bar, that sounds interesting

How many of you have a home bar? Not me.
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Weightlifting brahs: do you ever hear your lumbar discs quietly dying whilst doing squats? I swear, its the best lift to improve your lean body mass, and also the best lift to ensure you'll be visiting a spine surgeon in your 40's. I'm considering swapping squats entirely for leg press in my routine. Feelsbadman. Also, I feel like squatting ass to grass really grinds up the patellar track.

Of course, I have only anecdotal evidence to fuel my suspicions, bc the strength and conditioning literature sucks so much arse.
 
Brain Bucket said:
imo red is primarily for drunks and people whose tastebuds are dead. A superior red > white, but I'd rather pay $400 for scotch than wine.
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I generally like most of what you say but this post was poor quality.

Drunks don't discriminate, unless we're talking about price.
A good red is much more complex than a good white. Tastebuds are happier with a good red.
> is true.
Why would you ever put wine and scotch on the same field and make them do battle for your $$$, they are both exquisit and have their place.
 
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KinasePro said:
Weightlifting brahs: do you ever hear your lumbar discs quietly dying whilst doing squats? I swear, its the best lift to improve your lean body mass, and also the best lift to ensure you'll be visiting a spine surgeon in your 40's. I'm considering swapping squats entirely for leg press in my routine. Feelsbadman. Also, I feel like squatting ass to grass really grinds up the patellar track.

Of course, I have only anecdotal evidence to fuel my suspicions, bc the strength and conditioning literature sucks so much arse.
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Never had that problem with squats. I always keep my core tight throughout a lift.
 
CherryRedDracul said:
Never had that problem with squats. I always keep my core tight throughout a lift.
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Right, but it's something like 1000x the shear force of bodyweight on the disc annulus. Makes me wonder about the incidence of degenerative disc disease/spondylosis in retired people who did squats when they were young.
 
KinasePro said:
Right, but it's something like 1000x the shear force of bodyweight on the disc annulus. Makes me wonder about the incidence of degenerative disc disease/spondylosis in retired people who did squats when they were young.
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Source? I'm particularly interested in 1000x, shear force, and how one measures or what equation one uses for such a thing?
 
KinasePro said:
Weightlifting brahs: do you ever hear your lumbar discs quietly dying whilst doing squats? I swear, its the best lift to improve your lean body mass, and also the best lift to ensure you'll be visiting a spine surgeon in your 40's. I'm considering swapping squats entirely for leg press in my routine. Feelsbadman. Also, I feel like squatting ass to grass really grinds up the patellar track.

Of course, I have only anecdotal evidence to fuel my suspicions, bc the strength and conditioning literature sucks so much arse.
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Leg press puts your lower back into a much more compromised position than squatting should. Obviously we're not going to post lifting vids on SDN and get into a form discussion, but if I had to throw out a high-yield guess, I'd assume you have mobility deficits in your ankle or hips that prevent you from hitting depth while staying relatively upright, and thus you lean forward to compensate and hit depth and your lower back is being recruited much more and forced into a compromised position. I'd say try limber 11 for a few weeks, or buy some oly shoes or both preferably. A quick check to see if this would be beneficial for you without having to pay for oly shoes is to try squatting with plates under your heels( relatively small, go for something with a diameter of .5'' to 1'', probably a 10 lb plate). Your heel being elevated will allow your trunk to stay more upright and hit the same depth.

Also I'd recommend you to check out some studies done on varying amounts of knee flexion in the squat and the distribution of the load accompanying such. Essentially as you go deeper and deeper, the load is shifted more and more to your hips(explaining why wide-stance squatters and people that pull sumo run into hip injuries more commonly than anything else). Not trying to say you aren't squatting A2G, but 9/10 people think they are squatting lower than they really are. Although based on your evidence, it's plausible in my opinion that you are squatting very deep and just are a little limited mobility wise, which could explain the back pain. Regardless, I'd say that squatting until the surface of your quad is below your knee is sufficient depth(and considered good in the USAPL/IPF- strictest judged PL federations), and should definitely be easier on the knees than typical bro gym squatting.

Another thing that could help with that is to wear knee sleeves when you squat. They function to keep your knee warmer, and it's honestly impossible to explain their benefits. It feels like your knees are in heaven when they are on. I had knee trouble from sports in the past, but never experienced any issues from lifting, however I still wear sleeves whenever I squat. It just feels better. They aren't going to add poundage unless you get them drastically undersized, so that shouldn't be a concern. Anyway, I'd just buy some Rehband blue knee sleeves. The 7mm ones, which are the original ones as they are 10x better than the new ones which are grey and 5 mm. I'm pretty sure jackalsgym has them. Kinda expensive, but they will last you years and if it helps you feel better/ more confident, worth it's weight in gold IMO. Measure the largest part of your calf and then buy the size that corresponds to one size less in their sizing chart. This makes it a slightly tighter fit, which still isn't difficult to pull on at all, and resists sliding up and down your knee when on. Their sizing recommendations are really loose IMO.
 
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KinasePro said:
Weightlifting brahs: do you ever hear your lumbar discs quietly dying whilst doing squats? I swear, its the best lift to improve your lean body mass, and also the best lift to ensure you'll be visiting a spine surgeon in your 40's. I'm considering swapping squats entirely for leg press in my routine. Feelsbadman. Also, I feel like squatting ass to grass really grinds up the patellar track.

Of course, I have only anecdotal evidence to fuel my suspicions, bc the strength and conditioning literature sucks so much arse.
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If you use good form and moderate weight you will most certainly be doing more benefit than harm to your back by doing squats long term. Your spine is designed to support relatively heavy loading, and squatting will not only increase the integrity/bone density of your vertebrae but strengthen the surrounding back musculature, which helps support the spine much more effectively and reduce chances of back injury. I would advise against going for 1 rep max sets though unless you have a reason for it (ie competitive powerlifting/oly lifting) as this is when most people will injure themselves due to their form breaking down.

Yes you might hurt yourself lifting, but the same could be said for any sport or physical activity and training intelligently will severely minimize the risk. People who squat excessively using massive weights will likely develop joint problems down the road, but that is a completely different scenario from your average gym-goer doing squats. Most professional athletes develop health problems because they push their bodies past their limits. Just look at the shoulders of professional pitchers, the knees of professional mogul skiers, severe tendonitis of professional tennis players and golfers. For an average person, playing any of those sports would definitely benefit them more than harm them. Overuse injuries from exercising are something to worry about more at an elite level, for casual athletes the benefit of squatting or playing sports are plentiful and the risks are relatively minor in comparison if you are intelligent in your training.

Look at it this way. Jogging for a hobby is a healthy physical activity in all respects. However, taken to the extreme... such as running marathons on a daily basis, it becomes excessive and will give you knee problems and other potential health problems down the road that you would be unlikely to experience as a casual jogger. Same logic applies to squatting and most other sports/activities.
 
WhippleWhileWeWork said:
Source? I'm particularly interested in 1000x, shear force, and how one measures or what equation one uses for such a thing?
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Would love to find the source but I don't recall-- it was in the biomechanics section of an ortho text. They didn't single out a particular squat weight, but mentioned weighted squatting with axial loads, which happens in any number of occupations. Lumbar spine is naturally lordotic, so axial loading of any kind leads to shear stress. If I can find it I will cite.
 
KinasePro said:
Right, but it's something like 1000x the shear force of bodyweight on the disc annulus. Makes me wonder about the incidence of degenerative disc disease/spondylosis in retired people who did squats when they were young.
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To build something up you have to stress it. Basically the mechanism for any kind of positive remodeling in the body. I know 10x as many people with back pain that sit at a desk all day than I do people that squat that ever have any pain. It's not like your bones stay the same density or tendons and ligaments feature the same loading capability in a trained vs untrained individual. TBH even if there was a high incidence, it wouldn't change my opinion. Mark Bell's quote: " We're all gonna die, so you might as well live like a savage," sums my thoughts up, though in a bit more crude manner. Nearly everyone ends up sitting in a chair all day long which destroys their back on it's own, so I don't really see how building it up prior to this happening is going to be negative. All of this comes with the assumption that the lifts are performed in bio-mechanically correct manners, which is quite the assumption and I know I fail to do this sometimes, even though I compete and have a pretty solid squat 95/100 sessions.
 
WhippleWhileWeWork said:
I generally like most you of what you say but this post was poor quality.

Drunks don't discriminate, unless we're talking about price.
A good red is much more complex than a good white. Tastebuds are happier with a good red.
> is true.
Why would you ever put wine and scotch on the same field and make them do battle for your $$$, they are both exquisit and have their place.
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Based on my experience. Most women who drink frequently prefer red. Ones that don't tolerate alcohol well prefer white. Therefore the statement about drunkenness.

A good red is superior to a good white - already said that.

A poor red is far worse than a poor white, and I've noticed that people with a terrible palette prefer crappy reds...and so the statement about about dead tastebuds.

Yeah, scotch and vino have their place, but my personal preference is scotch, so I'll drop the $400 there. On the other hand, if I only have $50 to spend, it'll be on wine.
 
Brain Bucket said:
Based on my experience. Most women who drink frequently prefer red. Ones that don't tolerate alcohol well prefer white. Therefore the statement about drunkenness.

A good red is superior to a good white - already said that.

A poor red is far worse than a poor white, and I've noticed that people with a terrible palette prefer crappy reds...and so the statement about about dead tastebuds.

Yeah, scotch and vino have their place, but my personal preference is scotch, so I'll drop the $400 there. On the other hand, if I only have $50 to spend, it'll be on wine.
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Ok I think we're on the same page now. Tell me...$400 dollar bottle of scotch? What,where, who? I've dropped $200 for my own birthday and can't imagine it getting much better, diminishing returns and all.
 
PL198 said:
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Both raise some great points, there's a lot to be said about all the benefits which arguably outweigh the risks.

It's true, my form may indeed be fuarked up. I'm considering video taping myself sometime to see if I can identify the problem. Knee wraps sound great, I will look into them.

Also wondering if my core is chittier than I realize, maybe a belt would help? Definitely beefing up my core work regardless, would love to keep squats in my repertoire.
 
Last tidbit I remember about the knees thing that is another high-yield possibility: The dynamics of your knee during the squat. You want to push them out and keep them in line with your foot. A lot of people let their knees drift inward, especially on heavy attempts, which I think can lead to some pain.

Watch this video
Don't want to turn this into a crossfit debate, it has it's pros and cons like anything else. I don't do crossfit, but Starrett is a great PT that is my go-to for anything mobility. You can see in the video too, anything he can talk about, he can walk it too. This covers a good deal of info about potential knee issues. Keep in mind when he's squatting to the box and setting the hips back and making a vertical shin angle, that's an exaggeration and not really possible for raw lifting with heavy loads. Definitely the feeling you want though, and has a myriad of benefits besides your knees.

Keep in mind I said knee sleeve, not wrap. Important difference. Wraps actually can alter the bio-mechanics and put your knee into a compromised position from what I've seen. Sleeves won't change it.

Regarding the belt: Yes and no. It's going to help you and certainly increase your ability to brace, but I think it would be better to fix the potential issue first, and then use that as a cherry on top. It's also sort of a compound thing IMO, a belt helps people with sub-optimal form avoid some injuries- but let's face it, if someone squats with their chest almost parallel to the floor( not saying you do this, just exaggerating to make a point- logical fallacy and all), no belt will save them. However when we take a trained athlete that has a repeatable and structurally solid squat, a belt is going to make it even more bulletproof. I think I'd make sure your breathing is solid before investing in a belt. Staying tight is really important, and a big breath of air makes a huge difference. That's something you'll see in nearly all high level strength athletes. Some breathing pattern that consistently lets them sufficiently brace themselves before the lift. Mike Tuchscherer is an example of this, and most people would think what he does before he lifts is strange, although it clearly works for him. If you get a belt, get a good PL one, not a tapered one or something you'd get at a local sporting goods store. I'd just get a standard single prong belt from inzer or titan- again this is something that'll last 5-10 years+.
 
KinasePro said:
Weightlifting brahs: do you ever hear your lumbar discs quietly dying whilst doing squats? I swear, its the best lift to improve your lean body mass, and also the best lift to ensure you'll be visiting a spine surgeon in your 40's. I'm considering swapping squats entirely for leg press in my routine. Feelsbadman. Also, I feel like squatting ass to grass really grinds up the patellar track.

Of course, I have only anecdotal evidence to fuel my suspicions, bc the strength and conditioning literature sucks so much arse.
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I have hip issues so sometimes hurts when I squat ass to grass. Sometimes l do hack squats instead and they feel much better and destroy my quads. You should give those a try if you haven't already!

Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
 
WhippleWhileWeWork said:
HAHAHA,
Holy **** , http://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/P-9391.aspx

I see now that, like everything, there's an entire world of scotch for rich people who have more money than sense.

I was pleased with my lowly McCallan 18.
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$84,827.50 for a “magnificent museum piece of whisky history."

Are you actually supposed to drink that, or is it pretty standard to just cuddle with it in the dark corners of the mansion while mumbling “my precious”?
 
loris said:
$84,827.50 for a “magnificent museum piece of whisky history."

Are you actually supposed to drink that, or is it pretty standard to just cuddle with it in the dark corners of the mansion while mumbling “my precious”?
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Goes in the display case obviously. I'd recommend something with bullet proof glass, motion detecting lasers and a ceiling-mounted automated minigun turret.
 
loris said:
$84,827.50 for a “magnificent museum piece of whisky history."

Are you actually supposed to drink that, or is it pretty standard to just cuddle with it in the dark corners of the mansion while mumbling “my precious”?
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your butler is supposed to drink it, while you just cuddle with the bottle filled with some 10 dollar whiskey.
 
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