"Homework" in med school?

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How much written homework would one say there is? (I.e. Worksheets textbook stuff, lab reports, etc.) My idea is that it's mostly just studying as opposed to lots of homework. Would appreciate any input.


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When I went there, during the first 2 years, there was little busywork to do at home. There were some group things that required planning, some discussion group work that needed to be done in advance, etc. but the majority of your time is for you to figure out how to study the material in your own way.
Whatever you do, don't go somewhere that has mandatory classes. That's ridiculous.


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The busy work never ends. It's not as bad as college, but we still get lots of little assignments, particularly for our "Physician and Society" course.
 
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Expect about 1 BS 1-3 page "reflection" paper every few months or so, take at home multiple choice quizzes 1-3 times per week, random BS group discussions that you might need to prep for about 1 time per week, BS clinical exposure stuff that is useless but drains your time and my school also does 1-2x monthly physiology worksheets that you need to turn in online and discuss in class. Also you might need to prep for anatomy labs. There's probably more BS that I don't remember.

The majority of this isn't hard or too time consuming, but it all adds up to drain a bunch of your time. It's annoying when all you want to do is study for the test coming up.
 
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Really just depends on the school. If your school does problem-based learning, you'll more than likely end up having to create a 5-10 min presentation on a particular topic every other time you meet. Other than that, there might be odd things here and there that you have to spend time doing to be able to contribute to some random group discussion.

In general, there really isn't much of worksheets/lab report type things. Most of what you'll do will be more so to make sure you don't look ill-prepared but it won't necessarily be anything collected for a grade or something like that.
 
Expect about 1 BS 1-3 page "reflection" papers every few months or so, take at home multiple choice quizzes 1-3 times per week, random BS group discussions that you might need to prep for about 1 time per week, BS clinical exposure stuff that is useless but drains your time and my school also does 1-2x monthly physiology worksheets that you need to turn in online and discuss in class. Also you might need to prep for anatomy labs. There's probably more BS that I don't remember.

The majority of this isn't hard or too time consuming, but it all adds up to drain a bunch of your time. It's annoying when all you want to do is study for the test coming up.
Group homework can be time consuming if you have a couple people in your group that are super type A personality..
 
Most of the responses above are what I was thinking. I'm just swamped with busy work in undergrad rn and really hope it's not that way in med school. (Or at least make the work more meaningful.) I was accepted to a mandatory attendance school only, so I'll have to deal with that, but im sure there are workarounds. (i.e. headphones and working on stuff during lecture)
 
Most of the responses above are what I was thinking. I'm just swamped with busy work in undergrad rn and really hope it's not that way in med school. (Or at least make the work more meaningful.) I was accepted to a mandatory attendance school only, so I'll have to deal with that, but im sure there are workarounds. (i.e. headphones and working on stuff during lecture)

Lol no. Definitely not more meaningful.
 
We had almost no "homework" at my school. As far as I can remember the only class we even had "homework" for was bioethics (1 paper in 2 years, 1-2 online quizzes/month that we had to read articles for). Other than that it was pretty much "here's what you need to know, learn it".
 
We had almost no "homework" at my school. As far as I can remember the only class we even had "homework" for was bioethics (1 paper in 2 years, 1-2 online quizzes/month that we had to read articles for). Other than that it was pretty much "here's what you need to know, learn it".
Honestly, this is what I hope it's like. I'm so sick of the useless busy work in undergrad. I know this sounds crazy, but I honestly just want to STUDY, without any of the other useless bull****.
 
Honestly, this is what I hope it's like. I'm so sick of the useless busy work in undergrad. I know this sounds crazy, but I honestly just want to STUDY, without any of the other useless bull****.

There will always be some amount of BS busy work (just wait until you have to start coding for your reimbursement), it's just a matter of how much you have to put up with.
 
It's called adult learning... get used to it.
Thread wasn't so much a question of, "Can I handle busy-work?" It was more along the lines of, "IS there busy work?"
A good portion of my day is spent on "busy work". Better get used to it.
At least your busy work is in a medical setting haha
 
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No homework. Just study. You're gonna need all the time you have to study anyway.
I'm hoping my future school has this idea in mind. I enjoy studying things that are meaningful, and dont want to be bogged down with busy work.
 
Nope, absolutely none besides about 4-5 times when we are expected to facilitate a workshop discussion.
 
How much written homework would one say there is? (I.e. Worksheets textbook stuff, lab reports, etc.) My idea is that it's mostly just studying as opposed to lots of homework. Would appreciate any input.


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Mostly studying 1-2 years. 3rd year, studying will feel like homework because you'll do most of it at home. There will also be papers to read and presentations to prepare. 4th year is variable based on schedule and specialty. My biggest timesuck once the boards were done was ERAS and now my final project.
 
Honestly, this is what I hope it's like. I'm so sick of the useless busy work in undergrad. I know this sounds crazy, but I honestly just want to STUDY, without any of the other useless bull****.

Careful what you wish for. There's a firehouse coming for your face.

I too tired of busywork, little assignments here and there, in undergrad, punctuated by these giant 20 page lab reports I had to write weekly - but THEN -

A lot of med schools are like mine,
here's the lecture outline,
here's the ppt slides,
here's some books and suggested pages to read,
*maybe* there's a practice exam to take to see if you're totally going to fail,
and THEN

2 weeks later there was a FOUR HOUR EXAM over the material, that's like 25% of your grade.
The other 75% will be 3 more such 4 hour exams.

As I described it to one undergrad, they piped in, "So it's like finals week, but every other week?"
Why yes, that is a great description. It's just as stressful, believe me.
The volume stretches the bounds of what is physically possible for an above average human brain to memorize in a given timeframe.
Some of it also requires higher order thinking as well, of course.

Some of these courses did have lab portions, but usually it was just attendance taken, which would be not insignificant portions of your grade, enough where you wouldn't **** it off, however, there wasn't much "busywork" with these, it was the same deal, come, learn, or fail. These labs usually were pretty necessary for learning anyway, and handling an actual brain or looking at slides for a few hours a week can be a welcome break from a textbook or ppt slides 12 hours a day. Actually, having portions of your grade for just showing up can be a welcome thing.

There were a few times when there would be a worksheet for a lab or something - and this is where you realize that while deadlines for assignments are annoying - I missed undergraduate assignments. Sure, some didn't help you learn. But done properly, they not only help to teach you the material, apply the material, but they help you REMEMBER the material. They also keep you from slacking off too bad, and keep you with pace through the material. They set you up to succeed on a massive exam (if that's the set up).

The "every 2 weeks giant exam" formula - as you might imagine, it wouldn't take much to throw you majorly off your game. Every day, every hour counts. Truly. No joke.

There was always one other course we had that had did have "busywork," but this was minimal because they knew you were drowning in tough stuff. I might have one paper to write for the whole 3 month chunk of that course, or short presentation, etc. Usually it was just reading a few papers to prepare for the weekly discussion, and if you had a bad week you could "skip" the prep and just show up for the hour and be OK, as long as you weren't clueless every time. Through your engagement at other sessions the discussion leaders/graders wouldn't hold a few bad weeks out of 12 against you.

TLDR:
Firehouse coming!
School with minimal busywork, "here is it bitch, learn" philosophy -
Finals week every other week
No assignments to help you learn, gauge progress, keep you on track
Might just miss "assignments"
Careful what you wish for
 
Now, infinitely worse, is the busywork for 3rd year rotations, IMHO

My school had WAAAAY more of that. I sorta understand what they were doing, and how it prepares you for residency and tries to ensure with differing clinical rotation experiences that you still get out of an surgery rotation what you need - BUT -

-Different kind of overwhelming to be doing clinic 9 - 5 pm seeing 20 patients with your preceptor,
-while presenting 5-7 of those to them (3rd year presenting to surgeons is NOT easy),
-while doing 5 notes of your own (this is plenty for a 3rd year student),
-usually these notes might keep you until 6 or 7 pm at night (student notes must be a level of perfect that you will spend disgusting amounts of time on if they are the main basis of your grade to the attendings and residents, besides pimping you and your presentations)

-Studying up on tomorrow's surgeries, patients, anatomy, procedure, all in prep for pimping,
-then live through said day that was 4 am to 8-9 pm (doing just what you had to do that day for the next day) while skipping lunch

-then to have to study for the shelf exam
-read required pages and answer online quizzes, could be at a rate of 4 per week to complete before rotation end
-attend weekly didactic sessions where you would have a required paper to have read and answered questions on (not easy stuff, really)
-prepare a 15 minute power point talk with slides and citations on a given topic
-write up weekly case reports on a patient, where you discuss diagnosis and treatment, with citations, typically 4-5 pages long (I am including the history here)
-defend said write up weekly
-and lastly, doing all of the above with only one day off a week.

This was quite literally my surgery rotation. Other rotations were not as difficult but they all had various mixes of the "busywork" ie work besides just clinical experience that had to be done in addition.

Some of these things had deadlines. Others didn't.
Deadlines suck. No deadlines is a double-edged sword.

I don't know, everything about medical education sucks, except if you picked the right field, you will mostly enjoy the subject matter even if you complain most bitterly about every aspect of its presentation. Don't do it if you don't truly enjoy and would spend hours of time reading about human health, disease and death, just cuz. You will enjoy seeing patients while simultaneously loathing the healthcare system that makes everything about seeing them as sucky as possible, except for the actual seeing of the actual patients. You will potentially love all of your experiences in all of their awful awful entirety - as I do.

I enjoy my own pain, so while on some level I despised what my life was life on my surgery rotation, and was soooo stressed every waking moment, exhausted, hungry, thirsty, in physical pain, plus all the "busy" work - I also loved every single thing I did. I might have spaced it all out for more sleep and food and animal needs, though. So like I said, no matter what, you'll probably find a cloud in every silver lining.

TLDR:
Med school will likely present you with all manner of suck, in all manner of combinations.
Some things will suck less than others. You will like some things but dislike much much more.
Enjoy undergrad. It is a unique experience and not much like med school. That isn't a bad thing.
You may find in med school you sometimes miss undergrad.
You may find in med school that it manages at times to take all the bad, none of the good, of undergrad, and mix it with sadism and evil, and you will suffer some unholy blend, as I did.

Med school is harder, but maybe more rewarding. Still, there's a charm to being 4 years old and coloring wishing to be a big kid, just as there is to growing up and finally getting your driver's license. If you believe that, believe me when I say enjoy undergrad.
 
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