Honors/High Pass/Pass grading

[pinkcadillac]

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How important is it to get Honors/High Pass in the basic sciences if you want to do a radiology residency?

thanks

 

[235009]

much much less important than getting a high step 1 score, getting honors/high pass in your 3rd year clerkships and doing some research that is preferably published

 

[nygiants fan]

much much less important than getting a high step 1 score, getting honors/high pass in your 3rd year clerkships and doing some research that is preferably published

+1

You could be in the top 5 for your class for all of pre-clinicals, but if you don't get a high enough score or get a low passing score on Step 1 then God help you.

 

[gravitywave]

probably also good to point out that there is a difference between being able to get H/HP and choosing not to bother. If OP isn't able to get HP in preclinical courses, then the odds are against a blockbuster Step score to start with.

 

[Charles_Carmichael]

probably also good to point out that there is a difference between being able to get H/HP and choosing not to bother. If OP isn't able to get HP in preclinical courses, then the odds are against a blockbuster Step score to start with.

I respectfully disagree with the bolded, based on my experience. When I compare lecture notes with what's in review books/FA/whatever, our lecture notes definitely go into more detail (a LOT more detail, in many cases). And those details are all testable. If someone's just going through review books with the focus on prepping for Step I, I can definitely see them "just passing" classes while possibly doing very well on Step I. Just my $0.02.

Edit: Unless you were referring to work ethic or study habits/efficiency or something like that. If that's the case, I definitely agree with you.

Edit 2: I'm an idiot. The example I gave is of someone choosing not to bother with H/HP. 😳

 

[2012mdc]

Doesn't matter unless you're trying to get AOA

 

[obgyny]

This may be a stupid question, but everyone has been saying that pre-clinical grades don't really matter, but does class rank (which is related to preclinical grades...)?

(for any of the competitive specialties)

 

[mmmcdowe]

This may be a stupid question, but everyone has been saying that pre-clinical grades don't really matter, but does class rank (which is related to preclinical grades...)?

(for any of the competitive specialties)

It depends on the emphasis that class rank places on your pre-clinicals. My school doesn't use pre-clinicals at all for rank or AOA.

 

[UVAbme2009]

probably also good to point out that there is a difference between being able to get H/HP and choosing not to bother. If OP isn't able to get HP in preclinical courses, then the odds are against a blockbuster Step score to start with.

That's not true at all. Nothing you do in your preclinical years compares to step 1.

 

[gravitywave]

That's not true at all. Nothing you do in your preclinical years compares to step 1.

I have no idea what you are talking about.

well, that makes two people in this thread that have misunderstood my post, so I guess maybe it's my fault. Sorry All i was trying to point out was that the OP was ambiguous when it came to the reason for the question. If it's a matter of not wanting to study the minutiae that's required for preclinical honors, that's one thing. But if OP is unable, despite an honest effort, to at least get HP in preclinical courses, then yes i think that points to basic trouble with comprehension that will likely make difficult the kind of Step score we associate with a rads match.

 

[obgyny]

It depends on the emphasis that class rank places on your pre-clinicals. My school doesn't use pre-clinicals at all for rank or AOA.

Oh interesting. Since class rank may or may not have to do with preclinical grades, how important is class rank for competitive specialties?

 

[2012mdc]

Oh interesting. Since class rank may or may not have to do with preclinical grades, how important is class rank for competitive specialties?

Try to at least get in the top 25%

 

[NickNaylor]

I have no idea what you are talking about.

well, that makes two people in this thread that have misunderstood my post, so I guess maybe it's my fault. Sorry All i was trying to point out was that the OP was ambiguous when it came to the reason for the question. If it's a matter of not wanting to study the minutiae that's required for preclinical honors, that's one thing. But if OP is unable, despite an honest effort, to at least get HP in preclinical courses, then yes i think that points to basic trouble with comprehension that will likely make difficult the kind of Step score we associate with a rads match.

I understood your original post. Those other guys be triflin'.

 

[MilkmanAl]

I understood your original post.

Me too, and I'd tend to agree, for the most part.

 

[leagall]

So generally you should aim for high grades, not just to get high grades, but so that you learn the material really well for boards?