hoping someone could help...

[md_doc]

Hi - I posted this in the ENT forum but it's gotten no responses. Thought maybe i'd post it here as ent-facial plastics may be similar to plastics in terms of demand, competition, etc...sorry, if that's naive. Hoping someone could shed some light. thanks.

I'm a current medical student with an interest in ENT and a particular interest in facial plastic surgery. I have rotated on ENT and definitely enjoy it and also noticed that a lot of current residents are going into facial plastic surgery fellowships. My question is how competitive is it to make it as an ENT trained facial plastic surgeon in big cities (mainly NY or LA) since there seems to be an abundant of them already?

I know there is stiff competition for a finite number of patients (from plastic surgeons, derm, oculoplastic, OMFS, etc). But anyone know how tough it is to make it in such cities? Starting salaries? Salaries once established? Hard to gauge this information in my current situation.

I'm also interested in another surgical subspecialty, urology. Clearly, ENT and uro have lots of similarities...but was wondering how you think urology compares to ENT-facial plastics in terms of demand, salaries, etc in big cities?

Thanks.

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Hi - I posted this in the ENT forum but it's gotten no responses. Thought maybe i'd post it here as ent-facial plastics may be similar to plastics in terms of demand, competition, etc...sorry, if that's naive. Hoping someone could shed some light. thanks.

I'm a current medical student with an interest in ENT and a particular interest in facial plastic surgery. I have rotated on ENT and definitely enjoy it and also noticed that a lot of current residents are going into facial plastic surgery fellowships. My question is how competitive is it to make it as an ENT trained facial plastic surgeon in big cities (mainly NY or LA) since there seems to be an abundant of them already?

I know there is stiff competition for a finite number of patients (from plastic surgeons, derm, oculoplastic, OMFS, etc). But anyone know how tough it is to make it in such cities? Starting salaries? Salaries once established? Hard to gauge this information in my current situation.

I'm also interested in another surgical subspecialty, urology. Clearly, ENT and uro have lots of similarities...but was wondering how you think urology compares to ENT-facial plastics in terms of demand, salaries, etc in big cities?

Thanks.

My understanding is that surgical subspecialist are in demand regardless of where you decide to practice including areas like Miami, LA, etc. What you're essentially trading is salary - in very saturated areas, you're more likely to pay part of your earnings to be part of a group whereas in smaller areas, you may be 1 of only a handful of other specialist. A quick look at the ASPS Classifieds has several pages worth of practices/hospitals/universities looking for someone. Medscape's salary report puts most specialist salaries starting at about ~$300k and it obviously goes up the longer you're in practice. The old urologist I used to work for brought in about $1.2mil annually, not including investments.