Hopkins second look for pediatrics

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Hello,
I think I accidentally deleted the email that Hopkins sent out about second look. I don't want to call and ask because it may look bad. I was wondering if someone can help me out and let me know what the email said. Thank you so much in advance...

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i didn't get any email that i know of about a second look at Hopkins :shrug:
 
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Yeah-- can somebody confirm if this second look e-mail was something only sent to a subset of those who interviewed there? Or was it just sent to people who inquired about it? It just would be nice to know, thanks.
 
Yeah-- can somebody confirm if this second look e-mail was something only sent to a subset of those who interviewed there? Or was it just sent to people who inquired about it? It just would be nice to know, thanks.

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Major fail, Hopkins.

Straight from the interview day PowerPoint:
"With your best interest in mind (undue pressure), it is a program philosophy not to initiate communication with you after the interview day."

The fact that some applicants received even a follow up email about a second look but others didn't says all I need to know about the credibility of the program. Maybe it's nice to be among the chosen few now, but consider who you're dealing with. They own your @ss after the Match, and the day that there's a favored list and you're not on it will be the day I wish I matched somewhere else. Ranking them appropriately.........
 
Hey,
Just to give some perspective on this thread - one person with one post (this one) asked a question, and then an attending (who from a quick look at her posts, is from JHU) sent a PM. Everyone else who has posted has not reported that an email existed. Before getting too angry or nervous, I'd recommend taking a step back to re-assess. While I have no idea what is the actual situation, it's possible that there is a misunderstanding or misremembering. It'd be a bummer if people missed out on a program they liked because of one post.

But that's easy for me to say since I didn't interview there.

Having only a partial say in our futures is unnecessarily stressful, but sometimes stopping to get perspective will help. I've found taking the dog for a long walk helps when it gets to be too much and I need to get out of my head.
 
Major fail, Hopkins.

Straight from the interview day PowerPoint:
"With your best interest in mind (undue pressure), it is a program philosophy not to initiate communication with you after the interview day."

The fact that some applicants received even a follow up email about a second look but others didn't says all I need to know about the credibility of the program. Maybe it's nice to be among the chosen few now, but consider who you're dealing with. They own your @ss after the Match, and the day that there's a favored list and you're not on it will be the day I wish I matched somewhere else. Ranking them appropriately.........

I did interview at Hopkins and got no email. I think you're way overreacting. You don't even know if an email was sent, and even if it was, so what? How can one ambiguous post on an anonymous online forum make you change your rank list? My lack of an email doesn't change how much I liked the program or where I will rank them.
 
Hey,
Just to give some perspective on this thread - one person with one post (this one) asked a question, and then an attending (who from a quick look at her posts, is from JHU) sent a PM. Everyone else who has posted has not reported that an email existed. Before getting too angry or nervous, I'd recommend taking a step back to re-assess. While I have no idea what is the actual situation, it's possible that there is a misunderstanding or misremembering. It'd be a bummer if people missed out on a program they liked because of one post.

But that's easy for me to say since I didn't interview there.

Having only a partial say in our futures is unnecessarily stressful, but sometimes stopping to get perspective will help. I've found taking the dog for a long walk helps when it gets to be too much and I need to get out of my head.

Few days later and I feel the same way. Guess I should explain my reasoning a bit more so I don't look so wacko. I interviewed at Hopkins and liked it more than I thought I would. But when I talked to my advisor at home, and our senior residents and interns, the response was very tepid. Like "it's not as good in pediatrics as adult medicine" "they're missing some services, it's no CHOP" or "are you sure you don't like _____ better?" and even "umm...there are some personalities there" All really vague negative stuff.

The second look may be a hot button since I considered asking for one to clarify this stuff, but I took them at their word that they were a "no contact" program. And sure, they all said "email us with questions!" but these aren't really questions you can email someone! I did go to second looks at a couple programs that invited applicants.

The original post could be a misremembering or a hoax. The reply from michigangirl is suspicious. In either case she could have clarified rather than written "sent you a message" which sounds like "no comment and don't talk about this publicly" If it was a misremembering, the OP could own up to the error too.

Hopkins was somewhere in the middle of my list and they'll drop a few places if the OP is accurate. Not going from #1 to "do not rank" but my PERSPECTIVE is residencies are pretty similar everywhere, so character is going to make or break the next three years. Any failings there are the most important thing. "Baltimore City, You're Breaking My Heart"
 
Alright friends, listen up. My reply wasn't meant to be "suspicious"-- since I didn't know what the exact situation was with regards to emails I conferred with the associate PD and he said the second looks are a low-key option for anyone interested in coming back to check out rounds, conferences and get a feel for the place once more. It is likely the OP sent an email about coming for a second look and lost the reply. Bottom line, if you are interested in coming back for a second look, please call the pediatric residency office and let them know and they will help you set something up that is convenient for you. It is very informal. That was the content of my PM to the OP. Unfortunately I haven't followed the thread since my initial reply so I didn't know there was some stress about the "did I get an email" question. Melanie Byrd in the residency office is the contact-- please call if you'd like to come back out to Charm City for a second look!

As most folks who frequent this forum know, I think our pediatric residency program at Hopkins is fantastic-- the people here are the best colleagues I could ask for and the training will prepare you for anything your future career in pediatrics holds-- and more. I have been at this institution for 11 years now through two residencies and two fellowships--crutchinski and physicsnerd42 speak wise words-- please don't let an anonymous forum change your perspective or "gut" feelings. I'm happy to discuss our program further with anyone who is interested.

Hopkins stands by its word that they do not initiate communication with you after the interview day, so that you can make an objective decision that is right for you without any undue pressure. Strepper, even if Hopkins is a "no contact" program, it doesn't mean you can't contact them to ask about a second look-- those are the questions that they are generally waiting for. The 2nd look is strictly for your benefit. If you are still interested in the second look now you have the info, and anyone who would like to talk more about the program is welcome to PM me!

Good luck to all!
 
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Hello all,

Maybe the insights from someone who has breathed this program for 60-80 hours per week for the last 7.5 months can provide a little anxiety relief and shed some light onto the program.

Lets get the basics out of the way: I matched here and I never got an email about a second look. There, that is my anecdote. Take it or leave it. Let me just say that when we are anxious about important forks in the road (such as the match) we get easily worked up and sensitive about issues just like this. How much did I obsess about when I was offered interviews..."is this the first round they sent out, or the fourth? Why did girl x or guy y get an earlier invite, my numbers are better...should I write this email or phrase it that way...call, email, love letter, cash bribe?"...this whole process is anxiety provoking and its easy to anchor onto this minutiae.

Now, to the meat of this post. I love this program. Let me begin by saying that it wasn't even on my radar, let alone on my initial interview list when I first drafted one. I had no connection with Baltimore or Hopkins, but one of my advisors encouraged me to apply here, so I added it because it was easy and didn't cost much extra and...lets be honest, for the name ("hey ma', your child is interviewing at Hopkins, now go brag at bookclub about it").

When I got here, the people, most of all, blew me away. The dynamic program leadership, the enthusiastic attendings, the autonomous senior residents and the happy interns...each glimpse I got that day revealed a uniformly well-balanced institution and program. I was infatuated, I think would be the right term. I ranked, I matched (to my very big surprise) and a few months later I was heading to my new apartment and workplace.

Let me tell you, what I hoped for based on my interview day (without having money for a second look, it was all I had) has been met and then exceeded by magnitudes. I'm an intern who loves to go to work in the morning...the long hours, the difficult cases, the frustrating social/financial environment of east baltimore and the surrounding areas, all made bareable, even enjoyable by the people I get to work with here. Yes, yes, all the minutae is right - big children's hospital, every speciality you can think off at your fingertips, connections of alumni all over the country, reputation, etc, etc. All nice and important because it'll get you where you want to go after residency, wherever that might be. But I'd rather like to convince you to come here because the essence of this program is not about its name, the numbers, its match list or whether its one of the "best", but rather about the genuinely great experience I have had here so far. I have yet to meet a resident, fellow or attending that I have not enjoyed working with, whether in peds or when interacting with other specialities. The outstanding compassion, competency and enthusiasm for medicine, teaching & learning of each member has turned my infatuation into a deep appreciation and gratefulness to be here. This place makes me happy and I think that's a sentiment I share with 99% of my fellow interns and residents.

So, if you liked it here, if your gut tells you to come here then by all means rank accordingly. Don't let internet hysteria and the stressful nature of the process get in the way.

See you in a few months.
 
I'm an intern who loves to go to work in the morning...the long hours, the difficult cases, the frustrating social/financial environment of east baltimore and the surrounding areas, all made bareable, even enjoyable by the people I get to work with here. Yes, yes, all the minutae is right - big children's hospital, every speciality you can think off at your fingertips, connections of alumni all over the country, reputation, etc, etc. All nice and important because it'll get you where you want to go after residency, wherever that might be. But I'd rather like to convince you to come here because the essence of this program is not about its name, the numbers, its match list or whether its one of the "best", but rather about the genuinely great experience I have had here so far. I have yet to meet a resident, fellow or attending that I have not enjoyed working with, whether in peds or when interacting with other specialities. The outstanding compassion, competency and enthusiasm for medicine, teaching & learning of each member has turned my infatuation into a deep appreciation and gratefulness to be here. This place makes me happy and I think that's a sentiment I share with 99% of my fellow interns and residents.

Always good to have the PD from a program join us on SDN. Welcome!!🙂

Okay, I'm just kidding, don't send me any hate mail/postings about it.... I really am glad you like internship, but it would be okay if you had a few things you didn't like. Even incredible relationships have a few bumpy spots I've been told. If I was considering a program and read what was written above, even I, not naturally a suspicious person 😉 might scratch my head a bit. So, to make me feel better, is there ANYTHING less than perfect about Hopkins? Just curious....
 
Always good to have the PD from a program join us on SDN. Welcome!!🙂

Okay, I'm just kidding, don't send me any hate mail/postings about it.... I really am glad you like internship, but it would be okay if you had a few things you didn't like. Even incredible relationships have a few bumpy spots I've been told. If I was considering a program and read what was written above, even I, not naturally a suspicious person 😉 might scratch my head a bit. So, to make me feel better, is there ANYTHING less than perfect about Hopkins? Just curious....

Glad I have my assistant PD to keep it real for the applicants 😉

Bad things...7 ways of charting throughout the hospital and sister hospital (St. Agnes) - POE, EPR, EPIC, Meditech, paper charts at St. Agnes, the ED system, the OB system...but each is intuitive within about 48 hours of using them and all of them are being phased out over the next 2 years, replaced by the all powerful overlord EPIC. I was worried about this coming here, turned out to be a minimal issue at best.

The city. And this is very much a double-edge sword. If you can provide good (primary care) medicine in east baltimore, you can provide good care in a lot of places in this country. Resources are scarces but you make it work. You get creative and it teaches you a lot of tricks. Personally, I find that the city has less to offer than other big cities I have lived in.

Overall, small prices to pay for a program, about which I meant what I said above.
 
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