How are residency matches picked?

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Im currently deciding between taking a year off or going to the Caribbean if I dont get into med school this cycle. I know that the Caribbean is getting risky with more US schools opening up and residency spots not keeping up.

So my question was:

What exactly do they look at when matching you for residency?

When you are being matched for residency, does a Caribbean school graduate, from top tier schools like SGU or Ross, have an equal chance as a US school graduate if they both have the same USMLE scores and grades? Or does being an IMG really hurt your chances that much that they'd rather pick a US grad with lower scores over a IMG?

Does having any additional degrees, like an MSci, help your chances of residency? Or is it purely based on med school and performance on USMLE?
 
From what I've read around these forums, I think most people will tell you to take a year off, maybe do an SMP or get your MPH, or get a job and do some volunteering and then reapply. I think if you had the choice between Caribbean and applying MD/DO next year you should wait. But it is harder to match in residency for IMGs than US grads.
 
From what I've read around these forums, I think most people will tell you to take a year off, maybe do an SMP or get your MPH, or get a job and do some volunteering and then reapply. I think if you had the choice between Caribbean and applying MD/DO next year you should wait. But it is harder to match in residency for IMGs than US grads.


This is my second time applying. Last cycle I interviewed at 2 schools and was wait listed, but no acceptance. I'm doing a 1 year masters at USF now but have not gotten a single interview this year. By this time last year, I already had the 2 interviews done.
I recently submitted DO apps to a couple schools but just wasn't sure if I should try Caribbean also.
Just thinking of alternatives if I don't make it this year either.
 
What exactly do they look at when matching you for residency?
USMLE Step 1 and 2 scores.
Activities
Letters of Recommendation from faculty in your chosen specialty (and required rotations)
Awards
Personal statement


When you are being matched for residency, does a Caribbean school graduate, from top tier schools like SGU or Ross, have an equal chance as a US school graduate if they both have the same USMLE scores and grades?
No, the US graduate would get the spot. IMGs are at a disadvantage because they graduate from schools not regulated by the LCME and your clinical experience may not be the same. Also, remember that Caribbean schools have huge attrition rates/USMLE failure rates. You may flunk out and they won't help you, you may not score as well as a US grad on the USMLE because you won't be as well prepared.
Or does being an IMG really hurt your chances that much that they'd rather pick a US grad with lower scores over a IMG?
There are a lot of factors involved but yes.

Does having any additional degrees, like an MSci, help your chances of residency? Or is it purely based on med school and performance on USMLE?

It can help, how much is difficult to tell and specialty dependent.

You are better off going to DO or reapplying or choosing another career (PA or NP).
 
Im currently deciding between taking a year off or going to the Caribbean if I dont get into med school this cycle. I know that the Caribbean is getting risky with more US schools opening up and residency spots not keeping up.

So my question was:

What exactly do they look at when matching you for residency?

When you are being matched for residency, does a Caribbean school graduate, from top tier schools like SGU or Ross, have an equal chance as a US school graduate if they both have the same USMLE scores and grades? Or does being an IMG really hurt your chances that much that they'd rather pick a US grad with lower scores over a IMG?

Does having any additional degrees, like an MSci, help your chances of residency? Or is it purely based on med school and performance on USMLE?

Read this article

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19240447

This has been argued many times but here is the general idea. Many will argue that Caribbean schools will train you just as well and you should ultimately decide for yourself, perhaps this article will help (http://content.healthaffairs.org/content/29/8/1461.abstract).

But that does not appear to be your main concern. How competitive you are for residency and what your chances are for residency will depend on what you want. I would argue that MOST people when deciding on residency want to be able have a choice in at least three categories: Specialty, Location, Type of hospital/program. If you look at the match lists of these Caribbean schools, they will usually be in community hospitals and NOT university based. They will also be in odd locations spread out the United States. And you will find that most will end up in specialties that are easier to get into (but not necessarily inferior). If none of these are a concern for you, do whatever you want. However, these factors are really hard to appreciate and understand unless you are going through the process of applying for residency. Things change, your personal life will play a major role in your decision and having the luxury of choice is a great advantage for an MD allopathic medical student. A huge caveat will be that of course not all MD allopathic medical students have this luxury. If you are a medical student that is not willing to put in the study time and sacrifice to attain the numbers and letters, then you will lose that choice. You will also hear anecdotal stories of Caribbean students who matched into great University based programs but those are a rarity and you should not depend on them.

Another thing to consider if you don't care about the above criteria is that the type of program you go into will dictate the kind of training you get and the opportunities you have afterward. As someone who has gone through all the clerkships and seen both community and university based programs during the interview process I can honestly say there is a TREMENDOUS difference in terms of training. Something is lacking when it comes to community hospitals. Perhaps I am too junior to truly comment what exactly it is but it is something that is hard to appreciate until you're a medical student that has seen both sides. Personally, I would never even consider doing residency at a community based hospital. The goals of training at these types of hospitals do not mesh at all with mine.

If you're a pre-med and think that the ultimate goal is to be a doctor, then I think that is a fine way of thinking. However, why would you ever want to limit yourself? True, there are amazing doctors that trained elsewhere (not USA, Canada, Europe or Puerto Rico), but I bet they'll tell you how much of a fight they had to put up to get to where they are OR how lucky they were to have had made the perfect connections to allow them to progress academically. I always recommend any pre-meds I know to be patient and aim for MD allopathic schools. Only until they've exhausted all possibilities and it seems hopeless should they give in and go for other options. Ok I'll get off my pedestal now, I'm starting to get a nosebleed. 🙂
 
OP, why are you not competitive at LCME schools? If it's GPA, do an SMP. If it's MCAT, retake/go DO/don't be a doctor. If it's something else, take care of it.

that's a pretty exhaustive list, and any of those options is superior to the Caribbean.
 
What exactly do they look at when matching you for residency?

Scores
Grades (depending, not all grades are equal)
LOR/MSPE
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Research
Other interests
Personality/other factors

When you are being matched for residency, does a Caribbean school graduate, from top tier schools like SGU or Ross, have an equal chance as a US school graduate if they both have the same USMLE scores and grades?
No.

Or does being an IMG really hurt your chances that much that they'd rather pick a US grad with lower scores over a IMG?

Being an IMG puts you at a significant disadvantage. And yes, places will take an AMG over a non-AMG even if the AMG has lower scores. There is plenty of pressure to have as many AMGs as possible, even at FMG/IMG friendly places.

Does having any additional degrees, like an MSci, help your chances of residency? Or is it purely based on med school and performance on USMLE?

It can, but is less important unless it can be integrated into what your residency. For example, someone with an MPH in epidemiology who is planning using it, will be look at more highly than someone with an MS in biology and never plan to do basic science again.

All I can say is that if you do not get in, spend the next year improving your application and reapply, go even more broadly than the first time, prior to going to the Carib.
 
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