How are URMs discussed during committee meetings?

[Pluto98]

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For medical school admissions, clearly it is advantageous to be URM. I would imagine this would lead to a lower threshold for an interview invitation. Post interview however, how are URMs actually discussed in committee meetings? Is the fact that they are URM explicitly acknowledged? How does this work?

 

[CidHighwind]

Why is there such a fascination for black and Hispanic applicants on this site? Most of you don’t even have URM friends but spend so much time worrying about some advantage that URMs get even though there are barely any in medical school 🙄

 

[jogu1998]

Why is there such a fascination for black and Hispanic applicants on this site? Most of you don’t even have URM friends but spend so much time worrying about some advantage that URMs get even though there are barely any in medical school 🙄

IThis x1000... it's so annoying

 

[Engrailed]

IThis x1000... it's so annoying

Lol and plus the annual flood of “can I check off the URM box Bc I’m technically XYZ etc” come AMCAS season haha

 

[Pluto98]

Why is there such a fascination for black and Hispanic applicants on this site? Most of you don’t even have URM friends but spend so much time worrying about some advantage that URMs get even though there are barely any in medical school 🙄

Can we please keep this thread on topic?

 

[ChymeofPassion]

Why is there such a fascination for black and Hispanic applicants on this site? Most of you don’t even have URM friends but spend so much time worrying about some advantage that URMs get even though there are barely any in medical school 🙄

I think it's an interesting question. In a social and political state where its inappropriate to single someone out for their race, I would be interested to see if admissions members tactfully dance around the topic, or are more direct.

 

[CidHighwind]

Can we please keep this thread on topic?

It’s a dumb topic.

I think it's an interesting question. In a social and political state where its inappropriate to single someone out for their race, I would be interested to see if admissions members tactfully dance around the topic, or are more direct.

AA hasn’t really been a “thing” since the 80’s. Clarance Thomas saw to that. Some places do recruit minorities since they’ve traditionally been held out of places of higher learning for so long. People think schools like Howard and Moorehouse are “racist” for wanting to recruit URMs, but they were only built because it was policy at most colleges to not take minorities regardless of qualifications. I know on SDN many applicants think we live in a “post-racial society”, but it just isn’t true. All these threads do is turn into pity parties for non-URM applicants when, truth be told, none would actually want to trade places with a URM.

 

[deleted480308]

Why is there such a fascination for black and Hispanic applicants on this site? Most of you don’t even have URM friends but spend so much time worrying about some advantage that URMs get even though there are barely any in medical school 🙄

That’s a weird assumption

 

[Dr panda]

@gyngyn

 

[ChymeofPassion]

It’s a dumb topic.



AA hasn’t really been a “thing” since the 80’s. Clarance Thomas saw to that. Some places do recruit minorities since they’ve traditionally been held out of places of higher learning for so long. People think schools like Howard and Moorehouse are “racist” for wanting to recruit URMs, but they were only built because it was policy at most colleges to not take minorities regardless of qualifications. I know on SDN many applicants think we live in a “post-racial society”, but it just isn’t true. All these threads do is turn into pity parties for non-URM applicants when, truth be told, none would actually want to trade places with a URM.

Alright that's all well and good, but completely unrelated to the topic of the actual conversations. Do you think, in the admissions committee meeting, race may be explicity brought up as a parameter to take into consideration (We really love Jimmy, plus he is black, which contributes to our schools diversity), or it's more implicit in the conversation? That's my question. I also second sd247's comment on none of us having URM friends xD but I'm gonna leave that alone.

 

[Med Ed]

For medical school admissions, clearly it is advantageous to be URM.

But for everything leading up to medical school admissions, perhaps not so much.

I would imagine this would lead to a lower threshold for an interview invitation. Post interview however, how are URMs actually discussed in committee meetings? Is the fact that they are URM explicitly acknowledged? How does this work?

They are discussed the same as any other candidate. If they have lower metrics and/or less experience we look for mitigating factors. If they have so-called "value added" characteristics (e.g. URM, veteran, E01, rural, etc.) that plays in their favor. Ultimately a room full of people with different perspectives and priorities makes a collective decision.

 

[CidHighwind]

Alright that's all well and good, but completely unrelated to the topic of the actual conversations. Do you think, in the admissions committee meeting, race may be explicity brought up as a parameter to take into consideration (We really love Jimmy, plus he is black, which contributes to our schools diversity), or it's more implicit in the conversation? That's my question. I also second sd247's comment on none of us having URM friends xD but I'm gonna leave that alone.

1. I don’t know how much of a friend you can be to someone if you look down on them as being “lesser” than you.
2. I help with med school admissions as a med student. EVERYTHING is considered. Race, gender, sexual orientation (if stated in personal statement), SES, etc.

 

[ChymeofPassion]

1. I don’t know how much of a friend you can be to someone if you look down on them as being “lesser” than you.
2. I help with med school admissions as a med student. EVERYTHING is considered. Race, gender, sexual orientation (if stated in personal statement), SES, etc.

Where have I said they are "lesser" wtf?? Stop being so unnecessarily incendiary. If you're assuming that because I'm white I look down on PoC, don't respond because that's ridiculously offensive and I'm not engaging with that lol. 2nd part of your response answers my question.

 

[gyngyn]

Closing.