How bad does it look if you didn't join AMSA?

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The decision to become an MD didn't come until very late during undergrad. I never had the slightest interest in pursuing medicine my first few years, but things changed later.

How bad does it look?
 
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I don't think that doesn't look bad at all, don't worry about it.
 
Your playing with fire, I'd do anything it takes to join starting now. What a crack addict would do for crack is what you should do for AMSA.
 
The decision to become an MD didn't come until very late during undergrad. I never had the slightest interest in pursuing medicine my first few years, but things changed later.

How bad does it look?

I have never even heard of this AMSA you speak of. Does it have symptoms like MRSA?
 
You pay for a group that "explores medicine" where you could get the same/better experience shadowing a physician. Not too useful. Id run in the opposite direction from an org run by pre meds.
 
I'm an AMSA officer and all we really do is find volunteer/shadowing opportunities for the premeds at our school. If you can find those on your own, or are already doing them, then you don't need to join. You can go to the meetings for the free food though.
 
I'm going to show my ignorance on this for the second time.

WHY wold you join the AMSA BEFORE medical school?

American Medical Student Association.

Show me the pre-med in this.

To be honest, I wasn't even aware you could join as a pre-med.

My guess is you do little or nothing with it as an undergrad. You'd be better served listing 800 hours of watching OR live.
 
I'm talking about pre-AMSA. The reason I ask is because I heard the AMCAS has a clubs/activities section to fill out.

Can you get in without joining any clubs?
 
I'm talking about pre-AMSA. The reason I ask is because I heard the AMCAS has a clubs/activities section to fill out.

Can you get in without joining any clubs?

There is no advantage to joining AMSA. In fact, there is no advantage to being a premed. Just take the prereqs, get some clinical experiences, and do well in college and on the MCAT. That's all there is to it. Don't join a club like this because you somehow think it's helpful. As mentioned above, most of us didn't join AMSA until med school, and even then most of us did it for a free copy of Netters or whatever they were pushing to get folks to join.

FWIW, The group in involved with political action on a lot of issues that some won't agree with, so make sure you ideologically agree with this organization before you put it on your CV, or you may get stuck defending these things at an interview. Best I can tell, if you wait until med school the organization will bribe you with a free book to join, but offers very little of value before (or after) that point, and for quasi-political reasons there are understandable reasons you may want to steer clear. Their monthly magazine usually has an interesting article though, so for bathroom reading there's some value.
 
I'm an AMSA officer and all we really do is find volunteer/shadowing opportunities for the premeds at our school. If you can find those on your own, or are already doing them, then you don't need to join. You can go to the meetings for the free food though.


Agreed. The only reasons to join are (in order of importance):

1) Free food.
2) Making fun of other pre-meds
3) potential boyfriends (assuming they aren't neurotic)
4) leadership positions
5) finding shadowing/volunteering opportunities
 
The decision to become an MD didn't come until very late during undergrad. I never had the slightest interest in pursuing medicine my first few years, but things changed later.

How bad does it look?

Is this a serious question?! No one gives a hooohaah if you joined AMSA! It's JUST a measly club!
 
:laugh: My friend is a student interviewer and he said that seeing anything AMSA-related on an interviewee's application is a turn-off for him because of the types of pre-meds it attracted at his undergrad
 
Agreed. The only reasons to join are (in order of importance):

1) Free food.
2) Making fun of other pre-meds
3) potential boyfriends (assuming they aren't neurotic)
4) leadership positions
5) finding shadowing/volunteering opportunities
I love that making fun of other pre-meds comes BEFORE potential boyfriends:laugh:
 
[citation needed]

No citation is needed. Go to your local hospital and ask. AMA supports Obamacare, and that pisses off a lot of doctors in my area.
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4 days ago...

The AMA’s president, Dr. J. James Rohack, told reporters Thursday that the legislation is “not a perfect representation of our views” but is close enough to warrant his group’s support and keep the reform process moving forward.

Rohack said the bill needs to be accompanied by legislation reversing scheduled Medicare reimbursement payment reductions to physicians.

Responding to the AMA endorsement, Obama said the doctors’ group is “supporting reform because [its members have] seen firsthand what’s broken about our health care system,” Obama said.


Among other things, the bill would subsidize insurance for poorer Americans and create health insurance exchanges to make it easier for small groups and individuals to purchase coverage. It also would cap annual out-of-pocket expenses and prevent insurance companies from denying coverage for pre-existing conditions.

Pelosi’s office has said the bill would cut the federal deficit by roughly billion over the next decade. The measure is financed through a combination of a tax surcharge on wealthy Americans and spending constraints in Medicare and Medicaid.

The House bill also includes a government-run public option. Under the House plan, health care providers would be allowed to negotiate reimbursement rates with the federal government. Pelosi and other liberal Democrats had argued for a more “robust” public option that would tie reimbursement rates for providers and hospitals to Medicare rates plus a 5 percent increase. Several Democrats representing rural areas, however, killed the proposal after complaining that doctors and hospitals in their districts would be shortchanged under such a formula.
 
well- the only other advantage to joining premed-AMSA is the discount on MCAT study courses if you were going to take them (Kaplan, Princeton Review, etc.) Do a bit of research, but I'm pretty sure its a significant amount of money that you save (several hundred dollars that more than covers dues). My premed-AMSA here basically does a bunch of different service activities, has relevant speakers come in, and hosts random events that can be useful as far as the application process. From what it looks like though, not every premed-AMSA is the same, and whatever you do, don't just join for the application, because that bit really doesn't matter.
 
AMSA is absolutely INSIGNIFICANT. There are plenty of large universities (I'm talking state flagship U's) that don't even have chapters of AMSA.

Can you get in without any clubs? Depends. Clubs in and of themselves are not important if they're just going to be a line on the resume. Yes, AMCAS has a post-secondary experiences section where you can list up to 15 activities, awards, and honors. And yes, if you left that section blank, it'd be a red flag. But joining just to join is not going to get you anywhere. And I'd argue that it's not worth putting down memberships if you didn't do anything besides show up for meetings (in other words if you didn't have a leadership position, or at least work on some sort of specific committee, the experience is not worth writing about). Join clubs and activities because you WANT to, not because you feel you have to. Doing things you want to do is more likely to result in you having a significant experience worth noting - either by getting more involved in leadership or developing it as a hobby.

If done right (ie you become passionate about it), you'll get WAY more mileage out of joining the ballroom dancing club than joining AMSA or some other club you think pre-meds ought to have joined.

If you're the type of applicant that the decision to do medicine came so late that you're in your last year of undergrad and have no involvement, then you need to find COMMUNITY (not campus) activities that will allow you to continue the involvement beyond graduation. It doesn't have to be a lot, but there has to be something. Maybe it's Habitat for Humanity, or the local chapter of Court Appointed Special Advocates, or (if you're female) the Junior League, but there needs to be something. Hell, joining and helping to organize the local adult kickball league would at least provide some stories and show dedication beyond the classroom.

Bottom line, do something you're interested in, anything you are passionate about.
 
Agreed. The only reasons to join are (in order of importance):

1) Free food.
2) Making fun of other pre-meds
3) potential boyfriends (assuming they aren't neurotic)
4) leadership positions
5) finding shadowing/volunteering opportunities

Lol, you troll your local premed group for men?
 
Go and read their platform. It's a far left group and only join if you believe in their platform.

This. I joined before going to med school, but if I had to do it again, there's not a chance in hell I would join AMSA just to join them and list it on an application. Far, far too out in left field for my taste.
 
I had never even heard of AMSA until this weekend. I was watching the free stream of the Kaplan pre med conference. Along with SDN, AMSA was a sponsor and the letters were at the top of the screen so I checked out their web site. Their web site does have a section where they explain pre med membership. Darn, since I am nontrad and a long time out of a full time undergrad program I missed out on stuff like this. 🙂
 
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