How big a factor is age?

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I know that many people in this forum are post-bacs. You all have to deal with the issue of how an admission committee is going to look at your age. I am kind of untraditional in that I am significantly younger than many of my friends, all of us who are applying to med school this summer. Everyone has told me to pretty much take some years off but thats a waste of time. Do you think that if my gpa is about 3.85 and if my mcat is about 35 and I can show them that I a mature candidate through my personal statement and interview that I will have a problem? Also, any tips on how to downplay the age factor would be welcome. I want them to think that I am just as old as anyone else applying but how can I go about doing this? My brithdate is already associated with my AMCAS ID # and I believe it is a required field to apply.
 
Can I ask how old you are? Are we talking 19?

I think if you can show through your Personal Statement and EC listing that you have experiences that caused you to grow and be exposed to life and medicine - in addition to answering any possible questions about your age in an interview confidently - that you should be ok.

While a younger age might be a small hindrance in some cases to some adcom members, you certainly have a good GPA and hopefully your MCAT score will be as strong as you wish. If you also have strong ECs despite a shorter time in college (?), this will further help to prove your point. Do you have good ECs?

I wouldn't address it explicitly unless asked in an interview, but as you said I would try to show how I've grown through formative experiences which led me to medicine.
 
17...18 when i matriculate if i am accepted. few to none extracirriculars. i am a part of AMSA at my school but not a national member. do i have to be a national member? but thats about the only club i am a part of. besides that I have shadowed a few doctors. I have also volunteered at a hospital but not while i was in college. am i screwed in the sense that i have no extracirriculars. also is it wise to start a new organization on campus just to call myself a board member. one reason im not very involved is that I commute and dont live near campus...is that a legitimate excuse for not doing anything on campus?
 
You don't have to do anything on campus. The community near your house is just as good or better a place for your activities or service. So yes, starting your own group on campus just to be its leader would be a waste of time in my opinion. Something with an established infrastructure could provide you with more meaningful experiences. Having to commute to school is unfortunately not a valid reason for a lack of ECs.

Honestly 18 by matriculation will be a HARD sell. I'm not saying it can't be done... But that young of an age combined with a lack of solid ECs will be a big stumbling block.

If you really will have your bachelor's degree soon, then I would consider getting a Master's in something. That's 2 years added at most, which would make you 20 by the time you matriculate and that's a much better boat to be in. Plus it will give you time to find a solid EC that you have benefitted from and contributed to during that time.

I wouldn't think of a Master's degree as wasted time. Use it to learn more about something you always wanted to learn about but haven't had time. Or consider the fact that it will make you more of an expert in a certain area. There has to be some subject that you would like to learn a little bit more about, be it science or nonscience.
 
I'm going to go ahead and be the a**hole who says it: YOU ARE TOO YOUNG.

Why? LOTS OF DOCTORS ARE MISERABLE. There is NO WAY you could possibly know at your age if you'd be happy and/or successful as a doctor.

Just because you CAN go to med school does NOT mean you SHOULD.

Starting med school as a teenager would mean you NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO FIND OUT WHO YOU ARE OR WHAT MAKES YOU HAPPY until after your 20's are over.

If I were in charge, nobody would start med school before the age of 25. I'd make it a prereq to live in a developing country, or at least a non-English-speaking country, for at least a year. I'd also make it a prereq to be independent from parents, working at a job and paying rent, for at least 3 years.

Please don't be in a hurry to go to med school. This old fart wishes a non-sucky life for you.
 
Starting med school as a teenager would mean you NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO FIND OUT WHO YOU ARE OR WHAT MAKES YOU HAPPY until after your 20's are over.
If what this kid is saying is true. He started college at perhaps 14-15, beat out a huge percentage of the university population significantly more "mature" than he is and still smoked the MCAT.


I have no idea what your chances are.. but I do know that people of your intellectual ability have a gift many of us won't begin to understand. I would quickly say to stop and smell the roses a bit, certainly, but obviously your path in life is vastly different than all of us and even the traditional as well. Just because it took many of us a bit, doesn't mean your path is such.

If I were in charge, nobody would start med school before the age of 25. I'd make it a prereq to live in a developing country, or at least a non-English-speaking country, for at least a year. I'd also make it a prereq to be independent from parents, working at a job and paying rent, for at least 3 years.
Well that wipes out your competition.. except me.. but hey.. experience is good, but genius combined with a fundamental desire to help people heal is perhaps better. I figure the kid would probably irritate and push a good chunk of his med class because the "kiddie" could be kicking everyone's arse.

If you really will have your bachelor's degree soon, then I would consider getting a Master's in something. That's 2 years added at most, which would make you 20 by the time you matriculate and that's a much better boat to be in. Plus it will give you time to find a solid EC that you have benefitted from and contributed to during that time.

So now the boy genius has a masters at 20 and has spent more time in a classroom and less time experiencing life. I think you guys are failing to see the strength of his application in the sheer idea that an 18 or 19 year old has already completed college. and done really well to boot. Everything this kid does to improve his application just makes him look like more of phenom. Does he further delay matriculation because he's only 20 and so should spend 3 more years working on a PhD just to make him older.. Ponder that headline and profile in the local newspaper. Local 23 year old completes his PhD research....Not to mention that just makes him that much more stronger while in medical school because of the vast prior knowledge he would have to develop in acquiring the PhD. Delaying doesn't mean maturing.

I say go for it and discuss the hardships of being significantly younger, but just as smart as your peers and why you feel that makes you competitive in med school.. Don't get wrapped up in starting organizations, although that looks good, but if you don't want to do that as a physician, it's phony. You need to show them a bit of what you want to actually be. You're going to raise eyebrows for ADCOMS that many do not simply because of your age, you'll garner people simply curious how an 18 year old is applying to medical school. Go take an EMT-b course and volunteer in an ER. Try to get a job as a ward clerk.. doesn't take any "qualifications" to get hired in most cases, just a willingness to learn.



Good luck Doogy.
 
Age is not a factor if you are otherwise qualified. Much of the "qualification" factor for younger candidates hinges on how you interview and what you bring to the table. Medical school is not a reward for having a perfect uGPA and MCAT score. You need to be more than that and maturity is a factor to a large degree. Your challenge, which is opposite older people applying to medical school, is to show that you have the maturity to not only master the coursework but work with others in a professional manner. The quality of professionalism usually comes with being a bit older but not always. In any event, I would say that your age alone isn't going to get you into or keep you out of medical school if your application is competitive and I mean your COMPLETE application.
 
I'd say you need to build up your healthcare related extracurriculars in order to demonstrate that you know what you are getting yourself into. Volunteering doesn't need to be related to your school, but try to find a position where you will have lots of direct patient contact. If you find schools reject you this cycle, then I'd rather see you get a job than complete more education. This would help you gain a little more "real world" perspective. Maybe do something in clinical research for a few years.

The only way you'll find out if you get accepted is to try. I would agree that there is no rush and a few years of other experiences wouldn't hurt.
 
do something else besides med school this early...i echo a previous poster's sentiments.....you haven't even begun to live life yet and have no idea what the real world is like beyond what you have experienced...i applaud you on your accomplishments thus far but the last thing this world needs is another doctor with no people skills and little to no real world experience...

you are a kid, enjoy it...it only happens once

just my two cents
 
I won't echo what others have said here, but I think the information you've given us doesn't really tell us enough of the story to give you advice. That is, as far as numbers are concerned, you're a shoe-in for med school. You're clearly smart enough and capable of hard work.

What the schools (and we!) would want to know more about is why you want to be a doctor. See, the biggest hurdle for the medical field is getting in in the first place. If you make it in, it's extremely likely that you'll graduate and end up somewhere in practice. What schools DON'T want is for you to get into school and then become bitter and disgruntled because you changed your mind. So, before you say "med school's the next step, so why wait?" think hard about exactly why you want to be in med school. And volunteering someplace to get some real patient interaction would be good too. The lot of us all find the human body fascinating (or we wouldn't be here), but we all have to survive a lot of emotional and physical stress from dealing with patients that are in pain. So, it would help your application if you could show that you are looking forward to the people side of medicine just as much as the science side.

Maybe you're ready. I don't know. But I'd certainly want to hear enthusiasm about the medical profession instead of more about your stats before I could make any judgement.
 
If I were in charge, nobody would start med school before the age of 25. I'd make it a prereq to live in a developing country, or at least a non-English-speaking country, for at least a year. I'd also make it a prereq to be independent from parents, working at a job and paying rent, for at least 3 years.

Ah, if only you were my admissions committee! I'd pass with flying colors in the "life experience" department!

<Still waiting to hear back from my interviews>
 
Have you considered something like a year abroad program?? Like AFS or something like that. My kids each went to 11th grade in a foreign country and it was very maturing, besides it would give you something to write your personal statement about. Maybe somewhere where you could become fluent in Spanish or another language that is helpful in healthcare in your area.
Just an idea.
 
I had that concern this year. It may or may not be valid.

Last year I applied to about 50 FP residencies and got one interview - failed to match. This year I applied to about the same number, and got 13 FP interviews.

I made my personal statement very different this year, and one paragraph was specifically one designed to allay any concerns about my age (I am 46). I specifically mentioned winning a state championship this summer in a competitive individual sport, completing a triathalon, and a few days of work this past year that involved working around the clock (regular job and then being an extra in a TV show at night until early morning and then back to my regular job). I think it worked because all the residencies I interviewed at mentioned what a high level of energy I must have.

FP is not highly competitive, but I felt it was an issue and I addressed it in my personal statement.
 
truly, you are awesome. who among us has done what you have at such a young age. it's great.
however, you don' t know anything about yourself or about the world that really counts. no one does when we're that young. it's not an insult. you may think you do. but you don't. admissions committes know this, too. everyone older than you knows it. go travel, get a job, get more education, do something to challenge yourself in a non-academic way. become more well-rounded. good luck.
 
Have you considered becoming a D.O.? I know a lot of D.O. schools are pretty cool with non-traditional students. Now, that normally means older students--WVSOM, in the state where I'm from, focuses on non-traditionals and has a median age of, I think, around 27 or so--but I would think most would be OK with a student the other way, too. I mean, if you're MCATs are good, your GPA is good and you say the right things at your interview...why not?

Does anyone know if osteopathic med schools are more open to younger students than allopathic?
 
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