...huh? Are you wanting to try it out on yourself or something?robf said:...from saliva to an open wound? say someone with hep c spit into your open wound or licked a needle (no blood) and then you stuck yourself?
Only to B, which also gives cross immunity to Hep D.dexadental said:How much does the risk decrease given one has had the three doses of the hep vaccine administered? Does the hep vaccine apply to A, B, and C?
I work at a biotech company on HBV. Here's some facts that they gave us:dexadental said:How much does the risk decrease given one has had the three doses of the hep vaccine administered? Does the hep vaccine apply to A, B, and C?
The larger the bore the greater the risk. (eq Anesthetic needles in dentistry carry a lower risk than IV needles.) It is also important to note that there is not a single documented case of patient to dental provider (Assistant, Hygienist, Dentist, etc...) transmission of HIV in the United States.toofache32 said:The risk of HIV transmission is 0.3%, and for Hep C it's 1.8%.
Evanoff B, Kim L, Mutha S, et al: Compliance with universal precautions among emergency department personnel caring for trauma patients. Ann Emerg Med 33:106-165, 1999.
Also, open-bore instruments (needles) carry a higher risk than suture needles, etc. I will take an HIV patient any day over a Hep C patient.
Actually I heard of some, i forgot the exact article but yes it had occured before. Also you go to worry about protecting your eyes, you do not want to have blood squirt in your eyes when drilling. Maybe I am a germo-phob, I took an Advanced AIDs and Society Upper Division Elective in undergrad and also volunteered in an AIDS clinic for 1 year with a faculty member who was/is on President Bush's AIDs Advisery's Committee. I volunteered to help releave the stress or thought that there is soooooooooooooo much of a slim chance to get patient to doctor infections (any doctor DMD,DDS, DPM, etc...). Little did i find out the darn experience scared me sh*tless and did opposite of what i took the elective for. LoL, I remember having to take Medical Orientation Classes during beginning of Med School about abusing drugs/alcohol, I guess there is such a figure that 40% of most doctors did or will abuse either or , or both. I also loved how they showed us a True Story Video of a Pedo. Surgeon Resident just about to finish her residency, was off duty and was on her way down the hospital halls to her car. She noticed a baby chocking and gave the baby unprotected CPR out of instinct, and little did she know the baby was HIV+ through birth (if you have HIV or AIDs and get a kid, there is a high chance your kids will inherent the virus). All in all, the freakin resident went over 12 years to school and all these loans and before even practicing and making the big bucks she get infected with HIV. Who would of thought? It is a baby? And it is human instinct and even more human instinct when your a physician to revive any patient just like it is for a cop to protect even off duty. Sad story, felt bad, then felt why the F*ck did the school show us the video to begin with, it turned out so they can "encourage us" to carry around those annoying CPR covers with us at all times.Tarheel said:The larger the bore the greater the risk. (eq Anesthetic needles in dentistry carry a lower risk than IV needles.) It is also important to note that there is not a single documented case of patient to dental provider (Assistant, Hygienist, Dentist, etc...) transmission of HIV in the United States.
MD2b20004 said:Actually I heard of some, i forgot the exact article but yes it had occured before. QUOTE]
Although there are six "possible" dental exposures according to the CDC even they admit that the Science behind this categorization "is not very hard". Five of the six patients admitted other high risk behaviors. The CDC (Center for Disease Control) did not categorize these encounters as probable, likely or documented because of lack of evidence to substatiate these claims. Included below are excerpts from a review article in Dental World that covers each of the six possible cases.
March/April 2004 Dental world page 3
An Evidence-Based Study on the AIDS Epidemic in Dentistry
by E. J. Neiburger, DDS, Director, Center for Dental AIDS Research
In 1999, the CDC changed the total number, removing one case; thus reporting a new total of 6 possible cases of dental worker occupational exposure Of the seven (six) dentists classified as possible occupational HIV/AIDS transmission, three were general practitioners, one a periodontist, one a pedodontist and two were dental students. Five had AIDS; two were HIV positive but had no symptoms. Three dentists were mentally impaired. The seven preformed 22,134 procedures on 6,740 patients with no HIV/AIDS being transferred to or from the operators (DNA studies)
This report states that almost all the possible cases of DWs seroconverting had high-risk behavior, a proven source of HIV/AIDS infection unrelated to dentistry. The first dentist would not admit high-risk behavior. There were no examples of individuals who did not have this probable cause of infection. When asked how accurate this data was in supporting the possible designation, one CDC official stated, The scientific evidence is not very hard. There are no documented cases of (dental)occupational HIV/AIDS transmission. There are no probable cases and the six dentists classified in the possible designation appear arbitrary, lacking any scientific veracity .
So where do we stand on the potential of dental workers (dentists, assistants, etc.) of acquiring HIV/AIDS professionally? AIDS/HIV seroconversion rates of dentists have been studied for over 20 years. There is no dependable scientific evidence to substantiate that dental workers are or have been in ANY danger. The historical odds of a dental worker acquiring HIV/AIDS occupationally are zero. This is supported by the facts that in billions of dental patient contacts there have never been any documented cases of occupational HIV/AIDS infection in dentistry anywhere in the world since AIDS was discovered. It appears that the CDCs proposed seven (six) possible cases of dental worker infection are based on scant, unscientific, poorly substantiated and unreliable/data.
Herpes - yes when there are open lesionsDion said:Do the viruses (from STDS such as HIV) live in the saliva?
Yeah, my sisters-cousins-brothers-maid tolded me so...MD2b20004 said:Actually I heard of some, i forgot the exact article but yes it had occured before.
Is this supposed to impress?MD2b20004 said:a faculty member who was/is on President Bush's AIDs Advisery's Committee.
Which is what really answers the OP's question. Others have posted transmission rates, but those are rates in general from infected patients. The OP is wondering what the rates are upon contamination with saliva itself, in which case the rates are 0%.crazy_sherm said:Herpes - yes when there are open lesions
HIV - not in any amount that can result in transmission
HBV/HVC - no
Almost all other STDs are bacterial.
Im the OP and basically what happened was that this patient I have who has Hep C and HIV, I was doing a denture wax try-in and I had just taken the denture out of his mouth (covered with saliva) and was trimming it with a blade when I pricked my thumb. It was good enough to draw a little blood, but I dont think the tip of the blade (where I pricked myself) ever contacted saliva (at least I dont think) and people at school said I probably shouldnt worry, but I just wanted to hear what people here thought.Which is what really answers the OP's question. Others have posted transmission rates, but those are rates in general from infected patients. The OP is wondering what the rates are upon contamination with saliva itself, in which case the rates are 0%.