How do people get 35 MCATs after studying for just one month?

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I studied for about 5 months (around 7-8 hours per day) and ended up with a 10/9/10. I see so many people scoring that on their diagnostics.

Kind of intimidating to think that I'll be going to medical school with these people!
 
I studied for about 5 months (around 7-8 hours per day) and ended up with a 10/9/10. I see so many people scoring that on their diagnostics.

Kind of intimidating to think that I'll be going to medical school with these people!

The best thing you can do for yourself is stop comparing yourself to others. Concentrate on doing the best you can and forget about whether that puts you in the top tenth, or bottom tenth, of your class. What other people are scoring should have no impact on what you do, since your behavior and performance is the only thing you can actually control.
 
Honestly, there are a lot of people that exaggerate their study time and a lot of people that underestimate or just lie about how little they studied. I've heard people claim they hardly studied at all for a test and yet I spied them several days in a row with their nose buried in the textbook.

Worry about yourself and what works for you. Life will be much less stressful that way. Quality of studying is better than quantity.
 
1. Most of those people lie. They are the same people who say they hardly studied for the midterm, when you see them in the library every night.
2. People who take the MCAT while still in school (during the summer or something) generally need to study less since the material is so much fresher. I think a month is pushing it for a 35, but it is not unreasonable to think a few bright people could manage to do it. Realize the people you see on SDN are not indicative of what you see in your every day life.
 
It's definitely possible. Some people do very well on their prereqs, and MCAT thinking is just second nature for some people.
 
Some people are just good test-takers, generally smarter, and were more attentive during their classes. There's a variety of reasons; take your pick. There's not use griping about something you don't have any control over.
 
One of my best friends got a 37 studying just a month...it's been ruining my studying ever since he told me because no score seems good enough to justify the extra time I've studied more than him.

But realistically, you have to let some of this go. You don't want to be oblivious to what your peers are doing, but I approach it a lot like I do weightlifting at the gym. Sometimes I go, and I feel good about my reps and my weight, and then I see a guy next to me just killing it and lifting amounts that I wouldn't dream of. You have to learn to just ignore what other people are doing and focus on your own goals and responsibilities (and generally accept that there are people smarter/stronger than you).

It's hard, it takes constant concerted effort and it's kind of cool because I'm at that point as far as working out and athletics, but I'm not all the way there yet in academics. We'll get there though.
 
Kind of intimidating to think that I'll be going to medical school with these people!

Some have great foundation knowledge from hs/college before even prepping.

Others have very strong memories and are excellent readers. (I.e. I feel that being a slow reader absolutely took points off my score.)

Others are simply amazingly intelligent. (This is the minority imo, second only to...)

Others just get lucky. (I.e. average 29 on all practice tests, then get 35 on real thing.)

I studied for ~5 weeks and went from a composite below the 50th percentile to scoring over the 90th percentile on real thing. My absolute highest FL was 38, iirc. Not only did i come up way short of my "potential", but i never could even approach the scores of NickNaylors, Tatortots, et al. So what does this mean? Well, perhaps they will get into a more renowned school than me; maybe they will do better on step1 than me... however that doesn't have any influence on my own performance and residency app.

In other words, don't sweat'em bro. Someone will always be better. Just do ur thang.
 
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Luck and critical thinking. Likewise a good background in the sciences. If you've taken endo, phys, neurophys, and genetics then you probably will find the bio section easy as pie.
 
Some people are just smarter. Accept it and stop comparing yourself to them and you'll end up a happier person.
 
i only studied a week and scored a 32. although it was 16 hours a day until i was blurred in the eyes type studying and i had no spring break, but at least i wasn't stressing for months on end. i took 2 full length practice tests the day before and scored a 28 and a 33 so in a way i got lucky on test day

i worked hard in undergrad, and there was nothing in my review books i hadn't seen before. most of my studying was just practicing questions and quickly reading through high yield review books (e.g. Berkeley's orgo series) and that's how everyone should approach the exam imo
 
There are some wonderful comments here. Some people exaggerate (not necessarily lie outright), especially someone who got an amazing high score and says things like, "Ya-dee-da. And I just studied for a month." Several people here have added as a possible reason, "because they're just more intelligent". I don't fully accept that. It's true that some are better test-takers (they caught where the red-herrings were, they took all the right courses and did all the prep, and they weren't nervous). But I believe we all have it in ourselves to achieve a tippy-top score.

One huge difference is what you could call an "active/attentive brain". Is that test-taker REALLY reading the question and REALLY conjerring all the layers of background knowledge to accurately answer the question? Memory skills is one of the most traits to have in high-pressure stakes like this. I don't mean access to certain materials, although that's important, but having the true ability to really remember. (i.e. how easily did you learn your multiplication tables in 3rd grade?)

Knowing how you learn will also be important as you study for this test. Some auditory-learners may benefit from using the EK Osmosis, while visual-learners will need to draw pictures to nail some concepts. The kinesthetic-learners may especially benefit from continued practice of the FL AAMC test.

There's no sense in comparing yourself because that's self-defeating. For this test, you need the confidence to know you're going to do your best. That's all you can ask for.
 
I studied for about 5 months (around 7-8 hours per day) and ended up with a 10/9/10. I see so many people scoring that on their diagnostics.

Kind of intimidating to think that I'll be going to medical school with these people!

1. They lied about their score.
2. They lied about how long they prepared.
3. They studied hard and did very well in pre-reqs.
4. They're good test takers.
5. They're more intelligent than most of us.
6. They lied.
 
Some have great foundation knowledge from hs/college before even prepping.

Others have very strong memories and are excellent readers. (I.e. I feel that being a slow reader absolutely took points off my score.)

Others are simply amazingly intelligent. (This is the minority imo, second only to...)

Others just get lucky. (I.e. average 29 on all practice tests, then get 35 on real thing.)

I studied for ~5 weeks and went from a composite below the 50th percentile to scoring over the 90th percentile on real thing. My absolute highest FL was 38, iirc. Not only did i come up way short of my "potential", but i never could even approach the scores of NickNaylors, Tatortots, et al. So what does this mean? Well, perhaps they will get into a more renowned school than me; maybe they will do better on step1 than me... however that doesn't have any influence on my own performance and residency app.

In other words, don't sweat'em bro. Someone will always be better. Just do ur thang.

IIRC, even Nick didn't get above a 38/39 in his practice FL's but then popped out a 41 on the real thing. This is a stupid test. I'm irritated at every minute that I spent studying for this thing, and even if I got a 45, I would still think it's a completely dumb test. I'm not any smarter than I was 3 months ago when I started studying. Instead I've just wasted my summer memorizing stupid facts and details I'll have forgotten by the time next summer rolls around.
 
IIRC, even Nick didn't get above a 38/39 in his practice FL's but then popped out a 41 on the real thing. This is a stupid test. I'm irritated at every minute that I spent studying for this thing, and even if I got a 45, I would still think it's a completely dumb test. I'm not any smarter than I was 3 months ago when I started studying. Instead I've just wasted my summer memorizing stupid facts and details I'll have forgotten by the time next summer rolls around.

This is because the difference between a 36 and a 41 is only like 7 questions. Schools generally treat this scores the exact same because of that. Once you break out of the pack scores vamp up incredibly fast.
 
Some sections on the MCAT, such as VR, come naturally to some people. Such test takers have been voracious readers their whole life who reads regularly for sheer pleasure. Granted, they had to put some time to the physical science sections as well, but they probably paid extra attention when they were taking science requirement courses because they knew they would encounter similar material on the MCAT.
 
IIRC, even Nick didn't get above a 38/39 in his practice FL's but then popped out a 41 on the real thing. This is a stupid test. I'm irritated at every minute that I spent studying for this thing, and even if I got a 45, I would still think it's a completely dumb test. I'm not any smarter than I was 3 months ago when I started studying. Instead I've just wasted my summer memorizing stupid facts and details I'll have forgotten by the time next summer rolls around.

I like your attitude. 👍 I get angry and nasty whenever I study for the MCAT, too. It wouldn't be so bad if everyone just took it cold, but pre-meds keep raising the bar so we have to study for months on end if we want to be competitive.
 
circulus you have a point, I know several predents who didn't study for the DAT (less than 1 week) and scored > 99th percentile (23/30). I don't know any premed that has studied that little and scored that high on the MCAT (39/45).

I think the cutthroat, neurotic nature of premeds really skews the exam. But I still think it gives a good representative sample of how smart you are. I'm not going to bash it because it honestly is the only single way for schools to compare students across the board. GPAs are a horrible indicator due to the differences between schools.
 
I've heard different views on this issue, but how much of a difference would there be between something like a 37 and a 40? Same as the difference between a 37 and a 34?
 
IIRC, even Nick didn't get above a 38/39 in his practice FL's but then popped out a 41 on the real thing. This is a stupid test. I'm irritated at every minute that I spent studying for this thing, and even if I got a 45, I would still think it's a completely dumb test. I'm not any smarter than I was 3 months ago when I started studying. Instead I've just wasted my summer memorizing stupid facts and details I'll have forgotten by the time next summer rolls around.

You already had an elevated baseline of intellect before starting, bro. 😉

I'm sure you're gonna knock it out.

Def agree though...wasn't a fan of prepping for the test.
 
I really think the VR section is the key to a high score with little studying. I never studied for the VR and ended up receiving the same score on my actual exam that I did on my first AAMC practice test (13). I think majoring in the humanities was a significant factor in this. BS and PS obviously take a lot more work and I definitely saw increases after studying...
 
I really think the VR section is the key to a high score with little studying. I never studied for the VR and ended up receiving the same score on my actual exam that I did on my first AAMC practice test (13). I think majoring in the humanities was a significant factor in this. BS and PS obviously take a lot more work and I definitely saw increases after studying...

You lucky bastard, I studied so much for that stupid section and only got an 11.
 
I like your attitude. 👍 I get angry and nasty whenever I study for the MCAT, too. It wouldn't be so bad if everyone just took it cold, but pre-meds keep raising the bar so we have to study for months on end if we want to be competitive.

Pre-meds suck. I wish there was a section for holding a conversation or explaining the difference between an ERA and a WHIP. We'll see who's smarter then.

Then again, the bar would probably still go up...
 
I've heard different views on this issue, but how much of a difference would there be between something like a 37 and a 40? Same as the difference between a 37 and a 34?

AAMC grading scale is proprietary and changes from test to test, so no one really knows. Using 2011 data:

~86,000 tests administered (25.1 mean composite, 6.4 std. dev.)
34: 2.6% of test-takers achieved this score, 91.2─93.8th percentile
37: 1.1% of test-takers achieved this score, 97.4─98.4th percentile
40: 0.3% of test-takers achieved this score, 99.6─99.8th percentile
https://www.aamc.org/students/download/264234/data/combined11.pdf
 
circulus you have a point, I know several predents who didn't study for the DAT (less than 1 week) and scored > 99th percentile (23/30). I don't know any premed that has studied that little and scored that high on the MCAT (39/45).

I think the cutthroat, neurotic nature of premeds really skews the exam. But I still think it gives a good representative sample of how smart you are. I'm not going to bash it because it honestly is the only single way for schools to compare students across the board. GPAs are a horrible indicator due to the differences between schools.

Yeah, but when is it going to end? I can't wait until a 3.8 GPA, 2 years of research , 1000 hours of volunteering, and the founding of a non-profit are the standard for admission to low-tier state schools.
 
I don't really read for pleasure, and I have always been a very slow, very analytical reader. I had to do the entire Princeton and EK verbal books. and I still only got a freaking 10!! So when I see some people popping out 10s or 11s from the get-go, it does burn me up a little.
 
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AAMC grading scale is proprietary and changes from test to test, so no one really knows. Using 2011 data:

~86,000 tests administered (25.1 mean composite, 6.4 std. dev.)
34: 2.6% of test-takers achieved this score, 91.2─93.8th percentile
37: 1.1% of test-takers achieved this score, 97.4─98.4th percentile
40: 0.3% of test-takers achieved this score, 99.6─99.8th percentile
https://www.aamc.org/students/download/264234/data/combined11.pdf

I meant in the eyes of adcoms, not percentiles. I kinda doubt how correlated the two are, I have a feeling adcoms cream themselves for that big 40.
 
My baseline VR was about a 7, I was able to raise it to a 10-12 regularly on practice, and got a 10 on the real thing. I don't really read for pleasure, and I have always been a very slow, very analytical reader. I had to do the entire Princeton and EK verbal books. and I still only got a freaking 10!!

Me too man, I started at freaking 5 only finishing like 4 passages. Slow reading ftl.
 
Some sections on the MCAT, such as VR, come naturally to some people. Such test takers have been voracious readers their whole life who reads regularly for sheer pleasure. Granted, they had to put some time to the physical science sections as well, but they probably paid extra attention when they were taking science requirement courses because they knew they would encounter similar material on the MCAT.

I don't read, never have, and my VR was fine. I took the MCAT twice, first time I did 0 VR prep and got a 10, second time I did EK, TPRH, and all the AAMCs for VR and got an 11. I think it's near impossible (at least it was for me) to improve VR significantly.
 
I meant in the eyes of adcoms, not percentiles. I kinda doubt how correlated the two are, I have a feeling adcoms cream themselves for that big 40.

Of course they do, but it's not as big of a deal as you think. Anywhere between a 38 and a 42 is extremely variable, and anywhere above a 33 is going to be competitive at any school in the nation other than maybe the top 5 stat-mongering schools. But think of it this way: Last year about 1300 students got a 38 or higher on the MCAT. This is enough to fill up the top 10 schools in the nation. However, only one school even has a median of 38, and that's the notorious Washington University in St. Louis. Few schools have medians in the 37s, and a majority of the top tiers have medians between 34 and 36. Clearly, these schools could fill the classes with 38s, but they choose not to for many reasons. One of which is that the differences between a 34 and a 38 may not be as drastic as say, their personalities and other accomplishments, and Admissions Committees know this.

I've heard different views on this issue, but how much of a difference would there be between something like a 37 and a 40? Same as the difference between a 37 and a 34?

There isn't a huge amount of difference when you're speaking in the 90th percentile. Once you're in the 36, 37... 42 range, you're dicing up individual questions. This is why schools don't look into the higher scores as much. The real weed-out comes in the low 30s and high 20s range. This is because the test is very forgiving around section scores of 8, 9, or 10 where point spreads can be quite several questions, whereas the score differential at 13, 14, and 15 is generally only one, two questions maximum.

Overall, the scores represent percentiles, not a consistent scalar quantity. The numerical scores are used to more quickly and easily review applicants, though percentiles are more accurate. That's why this system exists.

I will use the 2011 data as my example. However, all the data for the past 12 years can be found here at the AAMC website.


If you look at the E-MCAT score spreadsheet that the AAMC offers, the difference between a 37 and a 40 is as little as four questions, and only a max of 2.5% of all test takers score in this range. Now, if you look at a 37 to a 34, up to 7% of test takers score in this range, and the difference in questions right between these test takers could be up as far as the ten range. Obviously, this isn't a huge difference, but you're currently looking at the > 90th percentile of test takers only (34 or greater is 90th percentile).

Now, the big differences come around the 30 range. Each point in this range is about 6% of all test takers, that's more than all test takers scoring >34! Also, the number of questions difference in a 4 point spread doesn't just indicate that about 25% of the test takers fall into this range, it also indicates a significantly larger number of questions wrong (ie lack of knowledge) than the very high or very low score ranges. Just like all standardized exams, the test is designed to designate who can comprehend and can also demonstrate their knowledge in a standardized testing environment (which you will face many, many more times in medical school, residency, and beyond). The focus is on distinguishing the middle of the pack, not either end of it. The single test design may be a poor judge of people scoring < 16 and > 34, but is pretty accurate between those numbers.

For more detail regarding how the exam is scored, you should view the AAMC's website regarding the topic.

Edit: I hope this is helpful and enlightening, but I'm going to put a disclaimer in here. I'm using my own research and interests in the topic (I got bored studying for the test so I found other things to do... haha) and what other reliable sources on SDN have said. If an AdCom were to come in here and say I'm full of ****, I would go with their insight, not mine.
 
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I don't read, never have, and my VR was fine. I took the MCAT twice, first time I did 0 VR prep and got a 10, second time I did EK, TPRH, and all the AAMCs for VR and got an 11. I think it's near impossible (at least it was for me) to improve VR significantly.

People who have been active readers all their life can easily score a 15 on VR. Like you said, 10 or 11 is probably the best you could have done since you have never been an avid reader.
 
Of course they do, but it's not as big of a deal as you think. Anywhere between a 38 and a 42 is extremely variable, and anywhere above a 33 is going to be competitive at any school in the nation other than maybe the top 5 stat-mongering schools. But think of it this way: Last year about 1300 students got a 38 or higher on the MCAT. This is enough to fill up the top 10 schools in the nation. However, only one school even has a median of 38, and that's the notorious Washington University in St. Louis. Few schools have medians in the 37s, and a majority of the top tiers have medians between 34 and 36. Clearly, these schools could fill the classes with 38s, but they choose not to for many reasons. One of which is that the differences between a 34 and a 38 may not be as drastic as say, their personalities and other accomplishments, and Admissions Committees know this.



There isn't a huge amount of difference when you're speaking in the 90th percentile. Once you're in the 36, 37... 42 range, you're dicing up individual questions. This is why schools don't look into the higher scores as much. The real weed-out comes in the low 30s and high 20s range. This is because the test is very forgiving around section scores of 8, 9, or 10 where point spreads can be quite several questions, whereas the score differential at 13, 14, and 15 is generally only one, two questions maximum.

Overall, the scores represent percentiles, not a consistent scalar quantity. The numerical scores are used to more quickly and easily review applicants, though percentiles are more accurate. That's why this system exists.

I will use the 2011 data as my example. However, all the data for the past 12 years can be found here at the AAMC website.


If you look at the E-MCAT score spreadsheet that the AAMC offers, the difference between a 37 and a 40 is as little as four questions, and only a max of 2.5% of all test takers score in this range. Now, if you look at a 37 to a 34, up to 7% of test takers score in this range, and the difference in questions right between these test takers could be up as far as the ten range. Obviously, this isn't a huge difference, but you're currently looking at the > 90th percentile of test takers only (34 or greater is 90th percentile).

Now, the big differences come around the 30 range. Each point in this range is about 6% of all test takers, that's more than all test takers scoring >34! Also, the number of questions difference in a 4 point spread doesn't just indicate that about 25% of the test takers fall into this range, it also indicates a significantly larger number of questions wrong (ie lack of knowledge) than the very high or very low score ranges. Just like all standardized exams, the test is designed to designate who can comprehend and can also demonstrate their knowledge in a standardized testing environment (which you will face many, many more times in medical school, residency, and beyond). The focus is on distinguishing the middle of the pack, not either end of it. The single test design may be a poor judge of people scoring < 16 and > 34, but is pretty accurate between those numbers.

For more detail regarding how the exam is scored, you should view the AAMC's website regarding the topic.

Edit: I hope this is helpful and enlightening, but I'm going to put a disclaimer in here. I'm using my own research and interests in the topic (I got bored studying for the test so I found other things to do... haha) and what other reliable sources on SDN have said. If an AdCom were to come in here and say I'm full of ****, I would go with their insight, not mine.

This is an awesome write up about how much of a fickle beast the MCAT can be. Around 30, every point counts significantly, while above ~34 you're starting to rely more on luck honestly. This should be required reading for pre-meds who ask about chances for their MCATs.
 
People who have been active readers all their life can easily score a 15 on VR. Like you said, 10 or 11 is probably the best you could have done since you have never been an avid reader.

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It's like this in everything in life. If you are a triathlete, there will be people that will tell you they only trained 5 hours a week for the Ironman and then they go qualify for Kona. Meanwhile I train 20 hours/week and can barely finish in a decent amount of daylight.

there will always be people like us who have too work hard at everything to get the passing/decent scores/athletic abilities. And there will always be the elites who dominate at everything without any practice.
 
People who have been active readers all their life can easily score a 15 on VR. Like you said, 10 or 11 is probably the best you could have done since you have never been an avid reader.

Yeah... I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you...

Unless you got a 15 on every practice verbal and also on the real thing, then you're just blowing smoke.

The VR is anything but straight forward; some of the questions are highly subjective and there are questions that you may not be able to get right with unlimited time. Reading the AAMC practice test VR explanations gives the impression that some questions/correct answers are just pulled straight out of their arse. This is purportedly an attempt to trap nervous test takers into thinking about it over and over again, wasting time. I recognized those questions as junk, took a good guess, flagged it, and came back if there was time.

I have great reading comprehension, and I got a 12. Attaining a 15 is certainly possible, but it is definitely not guaranteed solely by being an active reader.

Back to the OP's topic, this has been discussed before. Some people are naturally more intelligent than others. Some people are more efficient with study time. Some people lie. I had around 3 months total study time. This is longer than a month but I was while taking graduate classes and doing research full time, so I studied hard but it wasn't every day.

I got a 37, and I was getting mid 30's most of the practices with a high of 38, so it wasn't a fluke. I can give a screenshot from e-mcat and/or MCAT THX if anyone doesn't believe.

I studied smart & hard, and I think I'm a pretty sharp guy, but not genius level.
 
Yeah... I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you...

Unless you got a 15 on every practice verbal and also on the real thing, then you're just blowing smoke.

The VR is anything but straight forward; some of the questions are highly subjective and there are questions that you may not be able to get right with unlimited time. Reading the AAMC practice test VR explanations gives the impression that some questions/correct answers are just pulled straight out of their arse. This is purportedly an attempt to trap nervous test takers into thinking about it over and over again, wasting time. I recognized those questions as junk, took a good guess, flagged it, and came back if there was time.

I have great reading comprehension, and I got a 12. Attaining a 15 is certainly possible, but it is definitely not guaranteed solely by being an active reader.

Back to the OP's topic, this has been discussed before. Some people are naturally more intelligent than others. Some people are more efficient with study time. Some people lie. I had around 3 months total study time. This is longer than a month but I was while taking graduate classes and doing research full time, so I studied hard but it wasn't every day.

I got a 37, and I was getting mid 30's most of the practices with a high of 38, so it wasn't a fluke. I can give a screenshot from e-mcat and/or MCAT THX if anyone doesn't believe.

I studied smart & hard, and I think I'm a pretty sharp guy, but not genius level.

I see what you mean. However, I never said that being an active reader solely guarantees you a 15. For example, I was an avid reader, and I got a 14 VR on the real MCAT. Many people I spoke to (who also did extensive reading for pleasure) agreed that 15 is certainly easier to get if you have been a natural reader all these years.
 
I see what you mean. However, I never said that being an active reader guarantees you a 15. For example, I was an avid reader, and I got a 14 VR on the real MCAT. Many people I spoke to (who also did extensive reading for pleasure) agreed that 15 is certainly easier to get if you have been a natural reader all these years.

Oh yeah I agree that being a bookworm certainly helps you to score better, but the way you said they can easily score a 15 makes it sound, well, a little too easy.

I know people that have read all their lives and cant break 10-11. That is because there is strategy and test taking skill involved in addition to reading comprehension.

Also, as has been mentioned before, going from 13 to 14 or 14 to 15 is often one or two questions max, which means there is definitely a bit of luck involved.

Good job on the 14 though, that's a great verbal score.
 
Oh yeah I agree that being a bookworm certainly helps you to score better, but the way you said they can easily score a 15 makes it sound, well, a little too easy.

I know people that have read all their lives and cant break 10-11. That is because there is strategy and test taking skill involved in addition to reading comprehension.

Also, as has been mentioned before, going from 13 to 14 or 14 to 15 is often one or two questions max, which means there is definitely a bit of luck involved.

Good job on the 14 though, that's a great verbal score.

My apologies for the confusion, and thank you; I highly regard your MCAT score as well.
 
I studied for about 5 months (around 7-8 hours per day) and ended up with a 10/9/10. I see so many people scoring that on their diagnostics.

Kind of intimidating to think that I'll be going to medical school with these people!

Your score is good. It isn't amazing, but it won't actually hold you back from getting into medical school, so why sweat it? It is not evidence you can't be a good doctor.
 
Study for each of your pre-requisite classes as if you were studying for the MCAT.

Treat each pre-req as an MCAT course. Master the material and read chapters that aren't on the syllabus. The A in the class will just be a byproduct, and you will be ready for the MCAT.

You start "studying for the MCAT" the day you walk into gen chem 1.
 
Study for each of your pre-requisite classes as if you were studying for the MCAT.

Treat each pre-req as an MCAT course. Master the material and read chapters that aren't on the syllabus. The A in the class will just be a byproduct, and you will be ready for the MCAT.

You start "studying for the MCAT" the day you walk into gen chem 1.

Everything else I agree with but that. I don't recommend doing any extra work than you need to master the course content otherwise you'll be wasting a ton of time. If you take all your pre-reqs before the MCAT there's no reason why you can't fill any content gaps come MCAT-studying time.
 
Solid Prereq knowledge. If u screwed up on the prereqs like I did, then Mcat will show
 
Everything else I agree with but that. I don't recommend doing any extra work than you need to master the course content otherwise you'll be wasting a ton of time. If you take all your pre-reqs before the MCAT there's no reason why you can't fill any content gaps come MCAT-studying time.

That definitely makes sense. I think I say to read extra chapters because in my experience I had a professor in gen chem II who had a PhD in Ochem and skipped electrochemistry to talk about organic concepts that he liked to talk about. I knew that the MCAT covers electrochem so I had to study that on my own. Maybe not read extra chapters, but be familiar with what the MCAT will bring so you can recognize it. Basically have the mind set that "I need to fully understand this for the MCAT" instead of "I need to know this to get an A." I guess I could wait until my 3 month study time to cover it as well, either way.
 
Around 30, every point counts significantly, while above ~34 you're starting to rely more on luck honestly. This should be required reading for pre-meds who ask about chances for their MCATs.

I disagree with the tendency to call high scores pure luck. Sure, there are lucky circumstances where someone gets a high score that they weren't expecting, but I don't think it's as common as SDN implies. I scored exactly the average of my full length practice tests both times I took the MCAT, and scored >34 both times. In fact, even my sub-section scores were the average of my practice tests. Luck can get you there, but you can earn it too.

Instead I've just wasted my summer memorizing stupid facts and details I'll have forgotten by the time next summer rolls around.

Well, there's your problem. The MCAT is not at all about how much you can memorize. It's testing whether you truly understood the material, the why and the how rather than the what, and then can apply that knowledge in novel situations. Memorization is a relatively minor portion of the exam.

Study for each of your pre-requisite classes as if you were studying for the MCAT.

+1

And to answer the OP's question: Generally, those people are fresh out of the pre-reqs (which they did well in), and have naturally strong reading and critical thinking abilities. I don't like to say they're more intelligent, because I know some incredibly intelligent people who had trouble with the MCAT. It's testing very specific types of knowledge/thought processes. Some people think that way already, and so don't need to practice as much, others need some work to get there. In the end, just focus on yourself. Your 4.0 is going to treat you very well in the long run, don't sweat it.
 
IIRC, even Nick didn't get above a 38/39 in his practice FL's but then popped out a 41 on the real thing. This is a stupid test. I'm irritated at every minute that I spent studying for this thing, and even if I got a 45, I would still think it's a completely dumb test. I'm not any smarter than I was 3 months ago when I started studying. Instead I've just wasted my summer memorizing stupid facts and details I'll have forgotten by the time next summer rolls around.
that isn't constructive to your efforts.

People who have been active readers all their life can easily score a 15 on VR. Like you said, 10 or 11 is probably the best you could have done since you have never been an avid reader.

this is about the dumbest thing i ever read
 
I disagree with the tendency to call high scores pure luck. Sure, there are lucky circumstances where someone gets a high score that they weren't expecting, but I don't think it's as common as SDN implies. I scored exactly the average of my full length practice tests both times I took the MCAT, and scored >34 both times. In fact, even my sub-section scores were the average of my practice tests. Luck can get you there, but you can earn it too.



Well, there's your problem. The MCAT is not at all about how much you can memorize. It's testing whether you truly understood the material, the why and the how rather than the what, and then can apply that knowledge in novel situations. Memorization is a relatively minor portion of the exam.



+1

And to answer the OP's question: Generally, those people are fresh out of the pre-reqs (which they did well in), and have naturally strong reading and critical thinking abilities. I don't like to say they're more intelligent, because I know some incredibly intelligent people who had trouble with the MCAT. It's testing very specific types of knowledge/thought processes. Some people think that way already, and so don't need to practice as much, others need some work to get there. In the end, just focus on yourself. Your 4.0 is going to treat you very well in the long run, don't sweat it.


Meh I'm also an advocate of luck- My average for my last 3 AAMC exams (9,10,11) PS/VR/BS = 14/9/14 with a high of 38. I ended up getting 13-9-12 34 which broke my heart :/ (7 months studying- scored 1 point higher than my first FL lol- took 20+ FL's). I saw people who were averaging 31-32 get 35+

I think there is both skill + luck involved as well as random factors ie. sleep, food, anxiety
 
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