How do the schools rank? From 1-8

[diidy]

Note that this is my opinion and it is not based on 1st hand experience, but rather, based on my own research and what Ive read from others on this board (no offense to anyone...).

1. DMU 👍
2. Scholl
3. AZPOD (tough bc theyre not accredited yet but looks promising)
4. Temple
5. Ohio
6. NY
7. CSPM
8. Barry

How does it look? Accurate? Ive been hearing alot of bad things about Barry so Ive placed them last. How would you rank the 8 schools?

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[doclm]

Note that this is my opinion and it is not based on 1st hand experience, but rather, based on my own research and what Ive read from others on this board (no offense to anyone...).

1. DMU 👍
2. Scholl
3. AZPOD (tough bc theyre not accredited yet but looks promising)
4. Temple
5. Ohio
6. NY
7. CSPM
8. Barry

How does it look? Accurate? Ive been hearing alot of bad things about Barry so Ive placed them last. How would you rank the 8 schools?

It's really hard to say, because some programs are better for different people. Many schools have their pro's and con's. Also, you need to look at what hospitals each one is affiliated and determine where (location in US) you ultimately would prefer to live. Some schools are affiliated with certain residencies, which is where you may get job offers after you complete the residency program. EG- if someone really wants to go back to San Fran attend residency and ultimately end up in Cali. The CSPM may give you an advantage to that residency versus a programs like Scholl, DMU, Ohio, ect.
However, if you don't care where you do residency someday and want a more challenging education, choose some of the schools that offer harder curriculms.

Stating each school in order like that has always been a sticky thread.

 

[jonwill]

Note that this is my opinion and it is not based on 1st hand experience, but rather, based on my own research and what Ive read from others on this board (no offense to anyone...).

1. DMU 👍
2. Scholl
3. AZPOD (tough bc theyre not accredited yet but looks promising)
4. Temple
5. Ohio
6. NY
7. CSPM
8. Barry

How does it look? Accurate? Ive been hearing alot of bad things about Barry so Ive placed them last. How would you rank the 8 schools?

This has been discussed before and the thread can be found at this link:

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=255466

Concerning residency training from what I've seen, although most of the schools are represented at the "top residencies", the upper tier schools seem to get the majority of the spots.

 

[Dr_Feelgood]

Note that this is my opinion and it is not based on 1st hand experience, but rather, based on my own research and what Ive read from others on this board (no offense to anyone...).

1. DMU 👍
2. Scholl
3. AZPOD (tough bc theyre not accredited yet but looks promising)
4. Temple
5. Ohio
6. NY
7. CSPM
8. Barry

How does it look? Accurate? Ive been hearing alot of bad things about Barry so Ive placed them last. How would you rank the 8 schools?

Tough to say but I'd would not argue against your rankings.

 

[circle]

Tough to say but I'd would not argue against your rankings.

I attend Barry and would probably agree! I have thought of transferring, but would lose time. I hope that my grades and performance in clinic/clerkships will offset the Barry reputation.

Its so frustrating because good student or bad student we all get thrown in the pot together.

 

[Dr_Feelgood]

I attend Barry and would probably agree! I have thought of transferring, but would lose time. I hope that my grades and performance in clinic/clerkships will offset the Barry reputation.

Its so frustrating because good student or bad student we all get thrown in the pot together.

You are right. There are very good students at Barry but they can be hidden by the very bad.

 

[diidy]

I attend Barry and would probably agree! I have thought of transferring, but would lose time. I hope that my grades and performance in clinic/clerkships will offset the Barry reputation.

Its so frustrating because good student or bad student we all get thrown in the pot together.

Thats kind of scary. So do you think it will affect the type of residency you will get or the job offers after residency? What if you went to Barry but got a 3.99 GPA and was just a stellar student? Would the Barry reputation still hang over you and lessen your competetive stats and a chance for a PMS-36 residency? 🙁

 

[cool_vkb]

Note that this is my opinion and it is not based on 1st hand experience, but rather, based on my own research and what Ive read from others on this board (no offense to anyone...).

1. DMU 👍
2. Scholl
3. AZPOD (tough bc theyre not accredited yet but looks promising)
4. Temple
5. Ohio
6. NY
7. CSPM
8. Barry

How does it look? Accurate? Ive been hearing alot of bad things about Barry so Ive placed them last. How would you rank the 8 schools?

So AZPOD is not accredited😱 . What happens to students who are studying there if they fail to get accredited.

 

[Dr_Feelgood]

So AZPOD is not accredited😱 . What happens to students who are studying there if they fail to get accredited.

New schools cannot be accredited until they graduate their first class. The same was true from DMU 25 years ago.

 

[bdaddyjolley]

Note that this is my opinion and it is not based on 1st hand experience, but rather, based on my own research and what Ive read from others on this board (no offense to anyone...).

1. DMU 👍
2. Scholl
3. AZPOD (tough bc theyre not accredited yet but looks promising)
4. Temple
5. Ohio
6. NY
7. CSPM
8. Barry

How does it look? Accurate? Ive been hearing alot of bad things about Barry so Ive placed them last. How would you rank the 8 schools?

It's tough because these are just opinions since there is no actual ranking system that looks at all the aspects of each school. I have found on SDN most people rank the schools similar to what you put with the 1-4 sometimes rearranged differently but usually with DMU #1. But in talking with people that have never heard of SDN they have given different opinions on the matter. So it must always be remembered that everyone sees things a little differently and opinions are shaped in different ways. The recruiter from scholl told me thought that she thinks there is going to be a struggle for being number 1 with the 1-4 schools in the next couple of years. I guess we'll see what happens but like Jonwill said, you need to pick a school that best fits you.

 

[jonwill]

It's tough because these are just opinions since there is no actual ranking system that looks at all the aspects of each school. I have found on SDN most people rank the schools similar to what you put with the 1-4 sometimes rearranged differently but usually with DMU #1. But in talking with people that have never heard of SDN they have given different opinions on the matter. So it must always be remembered that everyone sees things a little differently and opinions are shaped in different ways. The recruiter from scholl told me thought that she thinks there is going to be a struggle for being number 1 with the 1-4 schools in the next couple of years. I guess we'll see what happens but like Jonwill said, you need to pick a school that best fits you.

Never believe anything a recruiter says about another school! I have heard some OUTRAGEOUS things over the past 4 years.

 

[bdaddyjolley]

Never believe anything a recruiter says about another school! I have heard some OUTRAGEOUS things over the past 4 years.

That's why I said we'll see what happens. Most all the recruiters though said that you would get a good education wherever you go and to go wherever you feel the most comfortable. That was just something I though was interesting from the scholl one even though I don't take it as fact. But most of what I have heard about different schools is from students or podiatrists in the field and the opinions vary depending on who you talk to. One student told me that the best podiatrist he has ever met was from scholl and also the worst podiatrist he has ever met was from scholl too (the student does not go to scholl). So everything seems to be relative and not definite when we talk about rankings.

 

[efs]

For what it's worth, I'll ad my $0.02.

In the rankings given above, I think the 1-4 and 5-8 are about right. How you place each within those groups is pretty random. Basically I think you've made a 50-50 grouping of the best and the worst. Where each falls within that grouping is in question.

Also, the real deciding factor isn't the school, but the student. Good doctors come out of all of the schools. (For that matter, so do the bad doctors).

From what I have seen, the major factor often tends to be geography.

Bottom line.
Any school can provide you with the education you need. (This may also be student dependant.)
Some schools MAY give you an edge on SOME residencies.
Every school has some GOOD residencies that are somewhat affiliated with it, but this isn't set in stone.

Go where YOU feel YOU will be able to get the best training. You will be able to get to a good residency training program coming out of any of the schools. Some of them MAY give you an edge at SOME of the residencies, but not at all of them.

And again, good students (and residents) come from all of the colleges. And so do the mediocre students (and residents). The residency directors are usually able to figure this out in during the interviews.

Don't sweat the school stuff so much, as what you make of your time there.

 

[Feli]

For what it's worth, I'll ad my $0.02.
...the real deciding factor isn't the school, but the student. Good doctors come out of all of the schools. (For that matter, so do the bad doctors)...

This is the best response in this thread.

If I had to answer this question of ranking the schools, I'd say it's not really possible. Nobody has ever gone through the program or even taken one course at all 8 schools, and I doubt that many people have even set foot in more than half of them. As was mentioned above, if there's a neutral third party company that has ranked the pod schools (as US News ranks MD schools), I'm sure not aware of it.

What you are basically left with is rumors from students or possibly the opinions of residency directors which are based on a pretty small number of externs they have seen from the different schools.

In my personal opinion, podiatry is a small profession already and the eight DPM programs wouldn't be accredited if they weren't capable of giving you the knowledge to practice competent podiatrist. Comparisons are inevitable, but it may be beneficial for the schools to spend less time with negativite remarks about one another and more time trying to unify and accomplish some of the profession's goals (APMA, PPAC, podiatric research, etc).
Some of the schools certainly tend to attract better applicants than others, but I don't really know how intelligent, involved, available, etc the faculty and administrators are at any school except my own. Nobody really does.

The bottom line is that if you apply yourself and work hard, you will graduate as a good physician.

 

[MrFeeties]

->Also, the real deciding factor isn't the school, but the student. Good doctors come out of all of the schools. (For that matter, so do the bad doctors).


Remember, the guy who graduates at the bottom of his class is still a doctor 😉

 

[Dr_Feelgood]

->Also, the real deciding factor isn't the school, but the student. Good doctors come out of all of the schools. (For that matter, so do the bad doctors).


Remember, the guy who graduates at the bottom of his class is still a doctor 😉

I agree with this statement. But if you have read some of the comments from the students that went to less reputable schools and where excellent students, they have had problems not being lumped into the same group as the bad classmates. If only 1/2 of your class has past part I of the boards, their is a 50/50 chance you are a less qualified student. Humans prejudge everything. So to make life easier, go to a top school and work hard. This solves all of the world's problems, including hunger.

 

[krabmas]

I agree with this statement. But if you have read some of the comments from the students that went to less reputable schools and where excellent students, they have had problems not being lumped into the same group as the bad classmates. If only 1/2 of your class has past part I of the boards, their is a 50/50 chance you are a less qualified student. Humans prejudge everything. So to make life easier, go to a top school and work hard. This solves all of the world's problems, including hunger.

I agree with Feelgood.

If you want to be the doc from the bottom of the class, please choose a different profession. we have enough of the bottom dwellers in pod already.

Since MD and DO is a bigger profession or even DDS it is not as bad to be at the bottom.

The top residencies are very competative and most people that are out say that you get your real training in residency. So just getting a residency is not the optimal result, you should want the best.

 

[Podman]

I agree with Feelgood.

If you want to be the doc from the bottom of the class, please choose a different profession. we have enough of the bottom dwellers in pod already.

Since MD and DO is a bigger profession or even DDS it is not as bad to be at the bottom.

The top residencies are very competative and most people that are out say that you get your real training in residency. So just getting a residency is not the optimal result, you should want the best.

very well stated krabmas. Becasue we are a small profession, everyone of us has an opportunity to be represent this profession and upkeep a strong reputation - so we need as many good docs as possible.

 

[doclm]

very well stated krabmas. Becasue we are a small profession, everyone of us has an opportunity to be represent this profession and upkeep a strong reputation - so we need as many good docs as possible.

Absolutely👍

Since our profession is so small of a group and has evolved dramatically over the past years, other physicians as well as the public will keep us under a "higher powered microscope" than your ordinary MD. Ultimately we want to prove our competence, and maintain a good reputation in the face of society. We need motivated DPM students/physicians who have the highest standards of scientific and clinical skills to keep driving this great profession forward.