How do you react to DEA's new...

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What do you do now?

  • I call the doctor’s office to get someone’s initials and rewrite everything.

    Votes: 9 64.3%
  • I call the doctor’s office to get someone’s initials but do not rewrite anything.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Don’t call but just write “confirmed with Dr. XYZ,” whether I rewrite the approved refill or not.

    Votes: 5 35.7%
  • FTS! DEA is long overdue to be abolished, and I don’t dispense no controls!!

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    14

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How do you react to DEA's new interpretations on pre-population refill requests for controlled substances sent by pharmacy to prescribers? Now pharmacists can no longer simply use the approval faxed back by prescribers, but instead must rewrite everything as a new prescription and call prescribers to get someone's initial to be placed on the hardcopies. Having to rewrite everything instead of using what the computer has already generated is dumb enough an idea because it creates more room for errors during the re-writing process. Having to call a doctor's office again even after a faxed approval is received just annoys the hell out of everyone (pharmacists, patients, and prescribers). I can't imagine how a pharmacy that handles hundreds of controlled substance requests daily can continue to function without angry mobs at pick-up window ready to torch down the pharmacy.

So, do you actually give a poop about the DEA's new interpretations?
 
How do you react to DEA's new interpretations on pre-population refill requests for controlled substances sent by pharmacy to prescribers? Now pharmacists can no longer simply use the approval faxed back by prescribers, but instead must rewrite everything as a new prescription and call prescribers to get someone's initial to be placed on the hardcopies. Having to rewrite everything instead of using what the computer has already generated is dumb enough an idea because it creates more room for errors during the re-writing process. Having to call a doctor's office again even after a faxed approval is received just annoys the hell out of everyone (pharmacists, patients, and prescribers). I can't imagine how a pharmacy that handles hundreds of controlled substance requests daily can continue to function without angry mobs at pick-up window ready to torch down the pharmacy.

So, do you actually give a poop about the DEA's new interpretations?

You should care for 2 reasons:

Your employer wont like it so much when PBMs come knocking and take back money on controls cause the law wast followed.

The DEA fines you for not following the Law. DEA is one agency I would not mess with. I will write out what ever they want. Once they find one small little problem, they will dig. No thanks.
 
I print out a pre-populated form and manually fax it to the MD.

Screw the DEA. They took a step backwards with this new "interpretation". It's time consuming, has a potential for errors, and doesn't accomplish anything.
 
"MOM! There is DEA in my medicine, what should I do?"

'Well it's still ok to take, but may cause GI upset.'
 
In NY we don't take faxed or e-script controls anyway, so a refill request simply means we need a new rx. When we fax, we make that clear. "This is a controlled substance, need a written hard copy RX, do not fax this back". They still get sent that pre-populated form though.
 
Based on the poll results thus far, it seems some pharmacists don't give a poop to what the DEA thinks. I respect your courage to take off your pants and fart at the face of the big guy. However, won't you worry if someone you work with would use that against you. For example, one of your techs may one day decides that he wants your ass burnt and tell the DEA or the company that you have not been following the DEA's instructions all the time.
 
Based on the poll results thus far, it seems some pharmacists don't give a poop to what the DEA thinks. I respect your courage to take off your pants and fart at the face of the big guy. However, won't you worry if someone you work with would use that against you. For example, one of your techs may one day decides that he wants your ass burnt and tell the DEA or the company that you have not been following the DEA's instructions all the time.

I worry about two agencies:

DEA
OIG

I worry about the DEA because they can shut you down or fine you for anything. A fine could be disasterous to a small business.

The OIG cause if you employ anybody on their exclusion list and you fill prescriptions under insurance, the insurance companies will take back all that money.

Again, i do no see any reason NOT to follow this new law. Why set yourself up for issues later. Especially with the DEA.
 
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