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ssc_396 said:If you have a crap interview for a school you really want is it inappropriate to email your interviewer trying to explain the things you should have said during the interview?
Has anyone done this?
ssc_396 said:If you have a crap interview for a school you really want is it inappropriate to email your interviewer trying to explain the things you should have said during the interview?
Has anyone done this?
ssc_396 said:Thanks, good point.
Do many pleople send a thank-you letters for a med school interviews?
ssc_396 said:If you have a crap interview for a school you really want is it inappropriate to email your interviewer trying to explain the things you should have said during the interview?
Has anyone done this?
anon-y-mouse said:I personally don't feel it is appropriate to thank someone for their time if the school hasn't admitted me -- interviewing is something that comes with the interviewer's job, and I like to think my application fee helps cover the interview service they provide.
The notion of "manners" is subjective; I think I have good manners, despite the fact that I don't categorically send thank-you notes. I do, however, take the time to genuinely and politely thank the interviewer upon the end of the interview. As for business etiquette, I'm sorry, but I'm not going into business, law, or even healthcare administration, so I personally don't think those stuffy standards apply to me -- and nobody thinks I'm insensitive, rude, or inappropriate.
Law2Doc said:If you think the interviewers do this as part of their job, you are misinformed. Most of the interviewers out there are clinicians and do so voluntarilly, for no compensation, out of pride for their school and some enjoyment in being involved. There is no part of their job description that requires them to do interviews, and they get no personal benefit out of it. And medicine is far more of a bona fide profession than "business", so frankly those standards of professionalism and etiquette apply even more to you than to a business school applicant. And I wouldn't say "nobody" finds you inappropriate on this point. 🙄
excellent point!! 👍 You always have very good responses and helpful advice. You are on your way to becoming a great professional and caring physician. You already sound like an awesome peson.Law2Doc said:Most do. There have been many many many many threads on this on SDN. It is a matter of good business etiquette and will absolutely not affect an interviewer's decision. They will most typically get it after they have turned in your evaluation anyway, and most won't take the time to read it. I personally write them. Some on here don't. Don't do it because you feel you have to -- do it because that's who you are and the kind of professional you plan to be. It will not come across as brown nosing (as others will surely suggest), and is not uncommon (it is the norm) it is just proper manners.
anon-y-mouse said:Formal etiquette (sending grovelling thank-you notes en masse) is absolutely ridiculous to me, and reeks of impersonalness.
Law2Doc said:Etiquette is not something that you follow because it makes sense to you, and you don't get to make up your own code of societal manners. You either be polite in the manner that society dictates is polite, or you are demonstrating bad etiquette/manners. Much like you don't eat steak with your hands in a restaurant, or wipe your nose with your sleeve. I'm sure some people find those things ridiculous too, but fortunately the majority follow the societal norms. In this case, you are going into a profession, and it is considered polite for folks in professional school and job interview settings to send a thank you note in follow up. You don't have to like it, but that is the etiquette. No groveling, no reeking -- just following the norm.
And actually, only sending a thank you note when you get accepted is pretty lame -- for all you know those interviewers gave you worse reviews than the ones at the schools that rejected you.
anon-y-mouse said:Sending a note "because it is the norm" ipso facto is fake and not genuine.
shinenjk said:I agree w/ anon.
If it mattered so much like law2doc stated, I wonder why med schools accept applicants who don't send thank you notes.
If you think people who don't send thank you notes are bad mannered, you got a problem. And you keep on mentioning that it is proper etiquette to send thank you notes, but I'd like to know where this "rule" is, who dictates it, etc.
Law2Doc said:individuals don't get to make up the societal rules, or choose to not follow them because they think they are silly, without others thinking they are impolite.
shinenjk said:Law2doc, during my next interview, I'm going to ask my interviewer what he thinks about sending thank you notes and get back to you. 😀
I don't think you're "wrong" per say, you and anon represent two opposite spectrums of looking at this issue. I just happen to agree w/ anon's viewpoint that's all.
QofQuimica said:When I first began interviewing, I did send out thank you letters to my interviewers. My thoughts on the subject were pretty much like law2doc's. However, at one school (and much to my chagrin), the admissions director explicitly told us NOT to send thank you letters at all (or if we felt compelled to do it, to wait until after being accepted). Since that time, I have been more or less following anon's procedure. Maybe it depends on the school, but just an FYI for all of you interviewers that not everyone agrees with what law2doc and I had assumed was "proper" med school interviewing etiquette. Maybe it's just new rules of etiquette for a new generation, law2doc. 😕
I agree.Law2Doc said:More likely just one atypical school having trouble with handling paperwork.
I think is a little silly considering that these ppl have volunteered their free time. Just becuase you didn't get doesnt mean that they should not be thanked.I'll send heartfelt thank-you notes if they're merited
MissMary said:Just becuase you didn't get doesnt mean that they should not be thanked.
AcesHigh said:This all really boils down to the type of person you are.
i'm not sure i'd call a pretty civil debate/discussion bickering. u seem like the only one really upset about it. i think the OP wanted to hear opinions from both sides of the fence and that's what has happened. i think its clear that ppl are capable of coming to a conclusion about this topic on their own and will do what makes the most sense to them.Its_MurDAH said:I dont understand what the bickering is about. Some of you guys like Law2doc claim sending thank you letters is the "proper" thing to do...proper according to what or whom? Proper may hold a different definition for others. That does NOT make them an impolite person or someone who is selfish. SO they are very choosy with who they give their thanks to...so the f*ck what? Many premeds i know will have you believe that the "proper" thing to do in a class room setting is bother the hell out of the professor and TA's and question every little answer that was marked wrong so that they can "win back" a few points here and there. You guys aren't the authority on this subject no matter HOW old or experienced you are. The arguments you guys are making - that it is the social norm to send thank you notes is absolutely ridiculous. SO we should do it cuz it's the social norm? Granted, the interviewers are doing their job as volunteers but maybe the thanks that i express during the interview itself will come across as more genuine and heartfelt than the thank-you i can put on paper. I have volunteered at a million different places...but I don't expect a thank-you from everyone i have helped or rendered my services to...not expecting something in return is the definition of volunteering. If i feel that my interview was exceptional and if it had a substantial impact on me then i may be inclined to email or send a thanks to the interviewer but other than that...fuggedaboudit
To everyone who doesnt want to send thank-you notes...don't do it. No one is gonna think of you any less and it isn't the "proper" thing to do unless you think it is and not because someone told you it is.
Its_MurDAH said:To everyone who doesnt want to send thank-you notes...don't do it. No one is gonna think of you any less and it isn't the "proper" thing to do unless you think it is and not because someone told you it is.
Law2Doc said:That there are no repercussions [...]
[...] will reflect upon you now and in the future.
anon-y-mouse said:These are incongruent statements. If there are no repercussions, then there is no such reflection. Surely you should have learned that in law school?
MrBurns10 said:And the fact that interviewers are volunteers shouldn't have any place in the argument, to be honest.
anon-y-mouse said:And you're just another obsequious mediclone to me 🙂
klause said:Let's consider this from another perspective shall we:
The one of the interviewer.
Most likely, the interviewer has made their decision on what they thought of you within five minutes of you leaving their office. So this means that unless you wrote the thank you note in front of them and handed it over before you left, it is unlikely to bear any impact on their decision. I know this has already been voiced but now to the main point.
If an interviewer were to come across a thank-card addressed to them a week later (from quite possibly a face-less applicant, or not, but chances are they do quite a few interviews over time), what would they think? IMO, not much. They may be slightly amused, because we are pre-meds who wanna go to med school <and will do almost anything to get there>, but at the end of it, they know that it's just part of the game. To some it may be so meaningless and trivial or impersonal, but it's there. And that's the beauty of it. Maybe if you're lucky and they do remember what you said and you were to bring that up in the card, then they might pause for two seconds and smile to themselves because it was funny or lame or whatever. Or if they don't remember then they don't. But that's how it goes. How many times have you received a calender from your realtor? May get annoying some times but that doesn't stop them from sending it. It's a business thing. You do it because that's your style. Like when you buy someone flowers when you stay at their house for a couple days.
Point is: No one is going to remember if you didn't send them anything. How you view that is totally your call.
Law2Doc said:Having interviewed folks in other settings and having gotten thank you notes, I tell you this. You get the note, open it, say "how nice" and then pitch it. But that doesn't make it not the proper etiquette thing for the interviewee to have done. Most of etiquette is inconsequential nicety. But it does apply in professional settings, and folks in the pre-allo board are presumably planning to embark into a profession. I think everyone knows my views on this ad nauseum. Nuff said.
Its_MurDAH said:all this talk of etiquette and being socially proper...
it seems you have spent too much time trying to appease everyone else and "fit in" professionally that you have forgotten to live your life on your terms and not someone elses.
yea it is a big assumption on my part but your every post is just oozing with words like "proper", "social norm", "etiquette", "being polite".
Its_MurDAH said:it seems you have spent too much time trying to appease everyone else and "fit in" professionally that you have forgotten to live your life on your terms and not someone elses.
That's just too much.
huh???????Its_MurDAH said:all this talk of etiquette and being socially proper...
it seems you have spent too much time trying to appease everyone else and "fit in" professionally that you have forgotten to live your life on your terms and not someone elses.
yea it is a big assumption on my part but your every post is just oozing with words like "proper", "social norm", "etiquette", "being polite".
