How does Complete date affect LizzyM score?

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The LizzyM score (GPA x 10 + MCAT) is a well known SDN metric for measuring applicant competitiveness vs. medical school averages. Looked at another way, the LizzyM score states that each 0.1 drop in GPA below a hypothetical perfect 4.0 GPA is equivalent to the loss of one MCAT point (or one LizzyM point).

It is also well known on SDN that the weather at the time of the interview affects the chance of acceptance to medical school. A cloudy/rainy day vs. a hypothetical perfect sunny day is equivalent to the loss of three MCAT points (or three LizzyM points).

My question is, what is the LizzyM exchange rate for application lateness? Would you estimate that for each month of lateness after a hypothetical perfect application being complete in July is worth one point? i.e. August=-1. September=-2, October=-3, November=-4?

Or maybe it is non-linear? August=-1, September=-2, October=-4, November=-6? As in, an applicant with a 29 MCAT complete in July is the equivalent to the same applicant being complete in November with a 35 MCAT, all other things being equal?
 
Its just a tool man

To answer your question, I would assume it would decrease (obviously) a large denomination.
 
You're trying to measure the length of your living room with a car odometer. You can try, but it won't tell you anything.
 
The LizzyM score (GPA x 10 + MCAT) is a well known SDN metric for measuring applicant competitiveness vs. medical school averages. Looked at another way, the LizzyM score states that each 0.1 drop in GPA below a hypothetical perfect 4.0 GPA is equivalent to the loss of one MCAT point (or one LizzyM point).

It is also well known on SDN that the weather at the time of the interview affects the chance of acceptance to medical school. A cloudy/rainy day vs. a hypothetical perfect sunny day is equivalent to the loss of three MCAT points (or three LizzyM points).

My question is, what is the LizzyM exchange rate for application lateness? Would you estimate that for each month of lateness after a hypothetical perfect application being complete in July is worth one point? i.e. August=-1. September=-2, October=-3, November=-4?

Or maybe it is non-linear? August=-1, September=-2, October=-4, November=-6? As in, an applicant with a 29 MCAT complete in July is the equivalent to the same applicant being complete in November with a 35 MCAT, all other things being equal?

yikes...
 
You're trying to measure the length of your living room with a car odometer. You can try, but it won't tell you anything.

+1

The LizzyM score (GPA x 10 + MCAT) is a well known SDN metric for measuring applicant competitiveness vs. medical school averages. Looked at another way, the LizzyM score states that each 0.1 drop in GPA below a hypothetical perfect 4.0 GPA is equivalent to the loss of one MCAT point (or one LizzyM point).

It is also well known on SDN that the weather at the time of the interview affects the chance of acceptance to medical school. A cloudy/rainy day vs. a hypothetical perfect sunny day is equivalent to the loss of three MCAT points (or three LizzyM points).

My question is, what is the LizzyM exchange rate for application lateness? Would you estimate that for each month of lateness after a hypothetical perfect application being complete in July is worth one point? i.e. August=-1. September=-2, October=-3, November=-4?

Or maybe it is non-linear? August=-1, September=-2, October=-4, November=-6? As in, an applicant with a 29 MCAT complete in July is the equivalent to the same applicant being complete in November with a 35 MCAT, all other things being equal?


+1 but I would say a 29 in June is probably equivalent to a 33-34 in November.
 
The LizzyM score (GPA x 10 + MCAT) is a well known SDN metric for measuring applicant competitiveness vs. medical school averages. Looked at another way, the LizzyM score states that each 0.1 drop in GPA below a hypothetical perfect 4.0 GPA is equivalent to the loss of one MCAT point (or one LizzyM point).

It is also well known on SDN that the weather at the time of the interview affects the chance of acceptance to medical school. A cloudy/rainy day vs. a hypothetical perfect sunny day is equivalent to the loss of three MCAT points (or three LizzyM points).

My question is, what is the LizzyM exchange rate for application lateness? Would you estimate that for each month of lateness after a hypothetical perfect application being complete in July is worth one point? i.e. August=-1. September=-2, October=-3, November=-4?

Or maybe it is non-linear? August=-1, September=-2, October=-4, November=-6? As in, an applicant with a 29 MCAT complete in July is the equivalent to the same applicant being complete in November with a 35 MCAT, all other things being equal?

I'm still not sold on the whole rain=decreased chance of acceptance thing. The article that everyone is using to make this claim 1) has a sample limited to the University of Toronto and 2) only states that those who interviewed on rainy days had an interview score on average 1% lower than those who interviewed on non-rainy days.

Doesn't seem like a very big difference to me. Plus the p scores are pretty weak.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2789141/?tool=pubmed


But as for the LizzyM thing...why are you worried lol? You got a 42. You are a beast my friend.
 
You're trying to measure the length of your living room with a car odometer. You can try, but it won't tell you anything.

This. LizzyM score is really only useful for finding schools to apply to based on your GPA/MCAT (which leaves out many important factors). Nothing more.
 
in that university of toronto study, do they specify at what point of the admissions cycle (i am assuming u of toronto is rolling admissions) these results come from?

assuming what i am, isn't it possible they are just interviewing "lower"-quality (here again, assuming earlier applicants are generally stronger applicants) applicants?
 
Ah boy...Now I'm gonna be worrying about the weather on my interview days.
 
or "precipitation (including freezing rain, snow and hail)"
 
in that university of toronto study, do they specify at what point of the admissions cycle (i am assuming u of toronto is rolling admissions) these results come from?

Nope, none of the Canadian schools - to my knowledge - do rolling admissions.
 
All you overbearing, neurotic, extreme type A LizzyM proponents are ridiculous. Classic premed. Live your lives, kids.
 
in that university of toronto study, do they specify at what point of the admissions cycle (i am assuming u of toronto is rolling admissions) these results come from?

assuming what i am, isn't it possible they are just interviewing "lower"-quality (here again, assuming earlier applicants are generally stronger applicants) applicants?

All it says is that "almost all interviews occurred in the early spring."

Regardless of applicant quality, the 1% lower score still holds for rainy vs. non-rainy interview days. I mostly feel like this small, isolated study shouldn't have any bearing on how we think rain might have affected our interview performance/chances at acceptance. I'd go so far as to say that it's a blatant, shameless testament to neuroticism, meant to stimulate trackless discussion and nothing more.
 
The Gpa x 10(MCAT) is just the simplified equation. If you want your true, adjusted Lizzy M score (otherwise known as TMI) the equation is:

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The Gpa x 10(MCAT) is just the simplified equation. If you want your true, adjusted Lizzy M score (otherwise known as TMI) the equation is:

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that should be d/dGPA.
 
Its a valid question. LizzyM score is a predictor for which schools to apply to BASED ON STATISTICAL LIKELIHOOD OF ACCEPTANCE WITH YOUR STATS.

Lower LizzyM score = decreased chance of admission

Late application = decreased chance of admission

so logically

Lower LizzyM score = Late application. The question is what is the equivalence point.
 
Its a valid question. LizzyM score is a predictor for which schools to apply to BASED ON STATISTICAL LIKELIHOOD OF ACCEPTANCE WITH YOUR STATS.

Lower LizzyM score = decreased chance of admission

Late application = decreased chance of admission

so logically

Lower LizzyM score = Late application. The question is what is the equivalence point.

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