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For average ophtho applicants in the past (240s on steps, tiny bit of research) with lets say 11-12 interviews, how far did you end up going on your rank list?
interesting discussion...
I'm also wondering how many applicants programs actually rank? If they interview say 50 ppl for 4 spots, would they just rank the most impressive 10, 20, 40 or all 50?
I'm sure some of the residents/attendings here have served on selection committees, it would be great if they can shed some light on this.
I agree with a lot that was said here, but the reason I think it's pointless to compare yourself is because:
1) it depends where you interview and how competitive you are for those places.
2) it depends on your spread of interviews - do you have all reaches or some middle tier?
3) who you know or where you come from does make a difference unfortunately. We all want to say it doesn't, but ophtho is a small world. Some programs do really look at where you are from, who you did research with, the name of your school...
4) an amazing job on an away rotation at the right program can make up for almost anything lacking on your application. I've seen people match to a top 10 with a 217 on step 1 this way. People like that can be ranked high and maybe over you.
5) some programs have 5 ppl making the decisions, some have 12 and some have their program director or chairman micromanage the ranking.
6) interviews matter and nobody knows how your interview went except you and the faculty you chatted with. They do affect your ranking.
I know people that got great feedback everywhere and didn't match. I don't think there is always rhyme or reason for how far people go down on the rank list.
People want to say, oh well that guy was weird or that person had borderline scores or... But every year I've seen people not match or go down on their rank list and be surprised. So... I think you gotta do your best, be informed and be prepared to go anywhere you rank.
Good luck.
Just read this post. It's a bit scary to think that people randomly don't match without a concrete rhyme or reason, but I suppose it's a harsh truth.