how feasible is it to take both the NERB and the SRTA?

[Vapor1122]

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I know it's been done before, but is it something that's a pretty serious undertaking, or more of just a hassle?

 

[tinman831]

Moving to Dental forum for better responses.

 

[gottago]

Definetly doable, but you will double the stress and expense. NERB works in a gazillion states so it maybe enough.

 

[ItsGavinC]

It's feasible (I haven't taken either exams), but don't put yourself through the stress unless you have to.

 

[diagnodent]

Why would you take 2 board exams? You should know where you want to practice after school and then take the appropriate exam. You can always take other exams later.

 

[OceanDMD]

Why would you take 2 board exams? You should know where you want to practice after school and then take the appropriate exam. You can always take other exams later.

I agree. I took the WREB, and started practice after school where the WREB was required. After a year I moved to a state that only took the NERB. Taking the NERB was much easier, all it involved was a written exam (no clinical ) since I had been actively practicing and had passed WREB. Two sets of patients for these exams, what a pain in the arse!

 

[gryffindor]

I agree. I took the WREB, and started practice after school where the WREB was required. After a year I moved to a state that only took the NERB. Taking the NERB was much easier, all it involved was a written exam (no clinical ) since I had been actively practicing and had passed WREB. Two sets of patients for these exams, what a pain in the arse!

This totally depends on the rules of the NERB state you are trying to move to, it is not a general rule. They could have made you take the entire NERB, it depends on how the lenient the state is going to be. I took the NERB only and now live in a WREB/SRTA state and I am out of luck unless I take and pass one of those exams.

 

[Vapor1122]

Why would you take 2 board exams? You should know where you want to practice after school and then take the appropriate exam. You can always take other exams later.

Wait, so you're saying I don't need to necessarily take the regional exam for the school I go to? It all depends on where I get accepted, but let's say I go to school at VCU (SRTA) and then want to live/practice in NYC (NERB). Could I simply not take the SRTA and just go straight to the NERB?

 

[OceanDMD]

Wait, so you're saying I don't need to necessarily take the regional exam for the school I go to? It all depends on where I get accepted, but let's say I go to school at VCU (SRTA) and then want to live/practice in NYC (NERB). Could I simply not take the SRTA and just go straight to the NERB?

Yes. The board exam is based on where you want to practicenot where you are going to school. You may have to travel to take a different exam.

 

[sacjumpman]

Wait, so you're saying I don't need to necessarily take the regional exam for the school I go to? It all depends on where I get accepted, but let's say I go to school at VCU (SRTA) and then want to live/practice in NYC (NERB). Could I simply not take the SRTA and just go straight to the NERB?

Ask when you visit VCU which regional exams they offer.

I know that they mentioned offering the Western Regional's on the school campus, and that sounded pretty appealing to me.

I think they may have even mentioned that the NERB was available.

 

[DrAngie]

Wait, so you're saying I don't need to necessarily take the regional exam for the school I go to? It all depends on where I get accepted, but let's say I go to school at VCU (SRTA) and then want to live/practice in NYC (NERB). Could I simply not take the SRTA and just go straight to the NERB?

Actually, NY is no longer accepting the NERB. If you want to be a general practitioner you successfully complete a one year residency (i.e. GPR) and you can get your NY license.

 

[SugarNaCl]

There is a bunch of misinformation here. First off, NY state DOES require the NERB to even get a GPR. You have to prove competency to practice dentistry...then you have to complete a GPR. You CAN NOT GET INTO A GPR WITHOUT PASSING THE NATIONAL AND REGIONAL BOARDS. At least this is how I understand it from everything I have looked at.

Second, I go to VCU and I will never move farther south, but am from NY originally. I plan to stay in VA, but to keep my options open in the future, I found out something cool. I do believe as of 2005, Virginia now accepts the NERB. It is new, but all the people from the north moving to DC were pretty much forced to practice in MD or DC leaving VA out of it.

The downside is that VCU doesnt offer the NERB, so you have to go to a close NERB exam school like UMD or Howard to complete it.

 

[rocknightmare]

There is a bunch of misinformation here. First off, NY state DOES require the NERB to even get a GPR. You have to prove competency to practice dentistry...then you have to complete a GPR. You CAN NOT GET INTO A GPR WITHOUT PASSING THE NATIONAL AND REGIONAL BOARDS. At least this is how I understand it from everything I have looked at.

Second, I go to VCU and I will never move farther south, but am from NY originally. I plan to stay in VA, but to keep my options open in the future, I found out something cool. I do believe as of 2005, Virginia now accepts the NERB. It is new, but all the people from the north moving to DC were pretty much forced to practice in MD or DC leaving VA out of it.

The downside is that VCU doesnt offer the NERB, so you have to go to a close NERB exam school like UMD or Howard to complete it.

Sorry bud some of the info is not correct here either.. according to NYS board of dentistry website (http://www.op.nysed.gov/dentlic.htm):

"Beginning January 1, 2007, all applicants for initial licensure must complete an approved clinically-based dental residency program of at least one year's duration. A clinical (practical) examination such as NERB will not be accepted for initial licensure after December 31, 2006."

"If you participate in a residency program in New York State, you must obtain a limited permit to practice within the residency program.

You may complete a residency program in either a clinical specialty or in general dentistry. The dental residency program requirements are:

* Specialty Clinical Dental Residency Program

The dental resident applicant must complete a clinical specialty residency program in one or more of the following specialty areas: endodontics, oral and maxillofacial pathology, oral and maxillofacial radiology, oral and maxillofacial surgery, orthodontics and dentofacial orthopedics, pediatric dentistry, periodontics or prosthodontics. If the specialty residency program is not in one of these specialty areas, 50% of the program completed by the resident must include clinical training in one or more of these specialty areas or general dentistry to meet New York State requirements.

* General Dentistry Residency Program

The dental resident applicant must complete a general dentistry program. During the residency program, the dental resident applicant must complete 9 dental procedures - 2 full crowns, 2 endodontically treated teeth (root canals), 4 restorations (2 anterior, 2 posterior), and 1 periodontal case (Type 1) - independently and to generally accepted professional standards. See the Reference Guide included with Form 4B for further information."

Thus no requirement of NERB for state of NY anymore!

At VCU we offer WREB, and SRTA currently. That maybe changing in the near future.

 

[rocknightmare]

btw to answer the OP. It is possible to take both - my sister did b/c few years ago there was no reciprocities between states... she took the NERBs in pittsburgh when she was a student.. then couple of years later took SRTA as a GPR resident

 

[SugarNaCl]

Sorry bud some of the info is not correct here either.. according to NYS board of dentistry website (http://www.op.nysed.gov/dentlic.htm):

"Beginning January 1, 2007, all applicants for initial licensure must complete an approved clinically-based dental residency program of at least one year's duration. A clinical (practical) examination such as NERB will not be accepted for initial licensure after December 31, 2006."

"If you participate in a residency program in New York State, you must obtain a limited permit to practice within the residency program.

You may complete a residency program in either a clinical specialty or in general dentistry. The dental residency program requirements are:

* Specialty Clinical Dental Residency Program

The dental resident applicant must complete a clinical specialty residency program in one or more of the following specialty areas: endodontics, oral and maxillofacial pathology, oral and maxillofacial radiology, oral and maxillofacial surgery, orthodontics and dentofacial orthopedics, pediatric dentistry, periodontics or prosthodontics. If the specialty residency program is not in one of these specialty areas, 50% of the program completed by the resident must include clinical training in one or more of these specialty areas or general dentistry to meet New York State requirements.

* General Dentistry Residency Program

The dental resident applicant must complete a general dentistry program. During the residency program, the dental resident applicant must complete 9 dental procedures - 2 full crowns, 2 endodontically treated teeth (root canals), 4 restorations (2 anterior, 2 posterior), and 1 periodontal case (Type 1) - independently and to generally accepted professional standards. See the Reference Guide included with Form 4B for further information."

Thus no requirement of NERB for state of NY anymore!

At VCU we offer WREB, and SRTA currently. That maybe changing in the near future.

First, what is this limited permit? I actually called a dental school in NY to ask and they said that in addition to a regional exam, you had to have one year GPR to practice in NYS. In addition, the ADA site states that VA as of 2005 accepts (but does not offer) the NERB as I stated. Just to make it clear. I would be interested to know too if this dental school in NY is giving some bad info or something. I'm from NY so obviously I was curious enough to contact them when I read this question.

If it turns out NYS requires NO REGIONAL BOARDS at all... I will be VERY intrigued. In addition, if this is the case, can you be accepted to a GPR in NYS? If so, Ill have to call SB and inform.

 

[gryffindor]

If it turns out NYS requires NO REGIONAL BOARDS at all... I will be VERY intrigued. In addition, if this is the case, can you be accepted to a GPR in NYS? If so, Ill have to call SB and inform.

You don't need to pass any regional boards to be accepted to a NY GPR or any GPR or specialty program in the USA. All you have to do is graduate dental school. After you graduate, if you are doing a GPR or specialty in NY, then you have to apply for a "limited license" from the state board and now you can practice at your GPR. This limited license means that you can only practice at your GPR/residency program; you can't go and moonlight at private practices. No exceptions. My friend tried to work at an ortho office during a summer in her ortho residency, and the best she could do there was assist because she only had a limited license.

After you finish the GPR or specialty program, you then apply for a regular license from the NY state board. No NERB or WREB or any regional board exams necessary. You do have to show that you passed your written NBDE I & II and you have to show the certificate you received from completing your residency.

I have classmates who did exactly what I outlined above and have now been practicing in NY since 2004 (the first year the residency for licensure option became available). They were people who knew they were never going to leave NY and they were doing either GPR or specialty residencies, so they didn't bother to spend money taking the NERB because it is unnecessary if all you want is a NY state license.

 

[SugarNaCl]

You don't need to pass any regional boards to be accepted to a NY GPR or any GPR or specialty program in the USA. All you have to do is graduate dental school. After you graduate, if you are doing a GPR or specialty in NY, then you have to apply for a "limited license" from the state board and now you can practice at your GPR. This limited license means that you can only practice at your GPR/residency program; you can't go and moonlight at private practices. No exceptions. My friend tried to work at an ortho office during a summer in her ortho residency, and the best she could do there was assist because she only had a limited license.

After you finish the GPR or specialty program, you then apply for a regular license from the NY state board. No NERB or WREB or any regional board exams necessary. You do have to show that you passed your written NBDE I & II and you have to show the certificate you received from completing your residency.

I have classmates who did exactly what I outlined above and have now been practicing in NY since 2004 (the first year the residency for licensure option became available). They were people who knew they were never going to leave NY and they were doing either GPR or specialty residencies, so they didn't bother to spend money taking the NERB because it is unnecessary if all you want is a NY state license.

No joke? I wonder if there was some sort of confusion or if I didn't state my question appropriately because she didn't even hesitate when I asked...she just told me that I needed to take the NERB, but I have some concerns. NYS requires a GPR, but I'm not so sure there are enough accomodations for GPRs unless they open up more spots... Even nationwide. NY has quite a few people that will be wanting to practice dentistry there when they graduate.

 

[gryffindor]

No joke? I wonder if there was some sort of confusion or if I didn't state my question appropriately because she didn't even hesitate when I asked...she just told me that I needed to take the NERB, but I have some concerns. NYS requires a GPR, but I'm not so sure there are enough accomodations for GPRs unless they open up more spots... Even nationwide. NY has quite a few people that will be wanting to practice dentistry there when they graduate.

You don't have to do the GPR in NY to practice there. The GPR or specialty residency can be completed in any state, and you can use it to apply for a NY license. There are plenty of GPR spots around the country to accomodate those who want to practice in NY. There are tons of GPR spots within NY state (probably the most spots available in any state) so it shouldn't be too much of a concern to do a residency and then get your NY license.