How in the world do you all get good practice scores?

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I've done content review, still a little rusty on certain areas.... but shouldn't I get AT LEAST a 7 in each section on practices?? It's rare for me to get even a 7.

So confused on where I'm going wrong... what are your secrets to get AT LEAST a 7 on each section?? Anyone experienced something similar?

MCAT is in less than a month!!

Thanks for 'listening'!! 🙂
 
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For me, i got that low in the beginning then JUMPED dramatically to above 10s, because I saw where and how I was getting things wrong. For me, it wasn't so much content as it was READING THE QUESTION CORRECTLY!... but that was me.

The moral here is that you're main problem is that you're probably not learning from your mistakes. When you're done with the practice exam you should probably take as much time reviewing what you got wrong and WHY you got it wrong as you did to take the exam!!
 
1. How long have you been studying? Without knowing this, we can't really gauge where you should be at.

2. You may want to move your test date back.

3. You seem like you feel like we all get great practice test scores. This is not true. Most of the scores that people post on here are great, but this is skewed because people who got low scores are probably not as willing to tell everyone their scores as people who get good scores. I have hardly ever seen anyone on here post that they got below a 25. Yet, a 25 is the 50th percentile and so half of all people get 25 or below.
 
1. How long have you been studying? Without knowing this, we can't really gauge where you should be at.

2. You may want to move your test date back.

3. You seem like you feel like we all get great practice test scores. This is not true. Most of the scores that people post on here are great, but this is skewed because people who got low scores are probably not as willing to tell everyone their scores as people who get good scores. I have hardly ever seen anyone on here post that they got below a 25. Yet, a 25 is the 50th percentile and so half of all people get 25 or below.
Hi everyone, thanks for all of your responses!!! 🙂

I've been studying since the end of May, after the finals for school were over. When June started, I studied mostly 3-4 hours per day with EK. Some days less, some days more.

My EK 30-minute exams are terrible. Usually get 7's for Bio in-classes, and usually 3-7 for the other subjects. When I get an 8 on a subject, I feel thrilled and excited because, to me, an 8 sounds wonderful compared to my 4's and what not. EK bio 1001 and EK Verb 101 scores are around 4-6. I usually can't finish EK Verb 101 passages on time.... and I've read that the MCAT verbal are much more brutal... How far behind am I? I have 3.5 weeks until the MCAT.... is that enough time to get 27+?
 
NOW thats more information right there. and important. Getting scores that low (no offense) is a sign that you're not getting the content itself. Once you get the content you'll jump immediately to the 9/10 range. At which point you have to learn how to read the passages correctly (that goes with verbal skills)

So, maybe you should try taking notes on each chapter. like 1-2 pages per chapter in the EK book. Writing helps you memorize by forcing you to rephrase and stuff. I would say try that and see what happens.
 
Thank you!!! I'm going to try it out and try to study for 10 hours per day. Then I'll take an AAMC practice... and figure out if I need to reschedule or not. 🙂
 
Thank you!!! I'm going to try it out and try to study for 10 hours per day. Then I'll take an AAMC practice... and figure out if I need to reschedule or not. 🙂

Hey, man. I am usually all for people who are gung ho about hitting the books and passing insurmountable odds, but your situation gives me the feeling that you should reassess where you are.

3.5 weeks? Based on what you've said, that's not enough time. From the sounds of it you're going to need to evaluate not only how you are taking practice tests, but how you are studying. Something is not clicking when you are reading the material.

I think your 10 hour goal is a fools errand. It will just stress you out unnecessarily. I think you should strongly consider pushing your exam back to the latest September date and start from scratch.

I would also strongly recommend using something other than EK for your studying. I have been using Berkeley Review and they are amazing. I wouldn't be getting very good scores if it weren't for BR. I initially tried with EK, but they assume you know too much ahead of time. BR walks you through the basics in an easy to follow manner. Not that it makes studying easy, but it makes it easier to understand what you do and don't know as you are going along. BR is also very good about pointing out important concepts.

Ok, now your more serious issue. You need to learn how to study more effectively. It sounds rough, but if you are getting 4's after you read a section you are not picking enough of the material up. If you were having those issues in just PS sections I could see it being a math issue, maybe a conceptual issue, or trouble digesting the complexities all at once, but because you are also having those issues in Biology, which EK does a pretty good job with, it has to fall on your studying technique.

The best thing I can tell you is to read the material actively. Don't fall into the trap of passive reading with this stuff. Your brain should hurt when your done. It takes work and it is much much slower than just reading the material and calling it a day. You need to think about the material. What does X mean? How does it apply to Y? What happens if I add Z? It is very important to analyze what you are reading.

I'm going to give you an example, because I think this is extremely important for you to get, otherwise you will waste more time studying inefficiently:

(This is the first thing I turned to in EK Bio, which you said you have)

In the EK Bio book on pg 45 there is a picture of chromatin. On that picture there is a lot going on, first you can see the DNA in loose strands, then it is wound around histones to form a nucleosome, which forms part of chromatin fiber, which is part of a supercoil within the chromosome, and ultimately leads to chromosome. (or you could look at it the other way and work your way from a chromosome to a double helix.)

Ok, now ask yourself, what is so important about this that they would dedicate 3/4 of a page to a picture of it? Now ask yourself what the hell is happening? Well, DNA is coiling and uncoiling. Ok, why is it coiling and uncoiling? What benefit does that offer DNA? Then think about how it would benifit the DNA to be supercoiled and in a chromosome - it makes it more stable, it's a safer means of cell replication and DNA seperation within the cell, etc. etc. Now ask yourself why the DNA would want to be uncoiled? How about for replication. Now think ok, if the DNA has to be uncoiled for replication, but coiled for cell replication what stages of mitosis are you going to find each type of DNA density? S phase would most likely be? Yep, uncoiled for synthesis. And during M phase the DNA would most likely be? Yep, supercoiled.

This was just a quick and dirty example and something you are probably familiar with, but I used it to illustrate a point. You must be thinking about what you're reading, otherwise it is meaningless and you will forget it as soon as you turn the page. Synthesize new material into old material you already know. How does it relate? What is a real world example? Or just plain, what the hell are they talking about (this is when you pull up your trusty friend google).

Start doing this now and see how it works for you. But do yourself a favor and push back your exam. It's not worth it to just roll in there and take it if you're not ready for it. It can make a retake twice as stressful.

Good luck though, man. You can get those scores up, but be realistic with yourself.

Here is a great quote for you:

"Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result"

-- Albert Einstein
 
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Hey, man. I am usually all for people who are gung ho about hitting the books and passing insurmountable odds, but your situation gives me the feeling that you should reassess where you are.

3.5 weeks? Based on what you've said, that's not enough time. From the sounds of it you're going to need to evaluate not only how you are taking practice tests, but how you are studying. Something is not clicking when you are reading the material.

I think your 10 hour goal is a fools errand. It will just stress you out unnecessarily. I think you should strongly consider pushing your exam back to the latest September date and start from scratch.

I would also strongly recommend using something other than EK for your studying. I have been using Berkeley Review and they are amazing. I wouldn't be getting very good scores if it weren't for BR. I initially tried with EK, but they assume you know too much ahead of time. BR walks you through the basics in an easy to follow manner. Not that it makes studying easy, but it makes it easier to understand what you do and don't know as you are going along. BR is also very good about pointing out important concepts.

Ok, now your more serious issue. You need to learn how to study more effectively. It sounds rough, but if you are getting 4's after you read a section you are not picking enough of the material up. If you were having those issues in just PS sections I could see it being a math issue, maybe a conceptual issue, or trouble digesting the complexities all at once, but because you are also having those issues in Biology, which EK does a pretty good job with, it has to fall on your studying technique.

The best thing I can tell you is to read the material actively. Don't fall into the trap of passive reading with this stuff. Your brain should hurt when your done. It takes work and it is much much slower than just reading the material and calling it a day. You need to think about the material. What does X mean? How does it apply to Y? What happens if I add Z? It is very important to analyze what you are reading.

I'm going to give you an example, because I think this is extremely important for you to get, otherwise you will waste more time studying inefficiently:

(This is the first thing I turned to in EK Bio, which you said you have)

In the EK Bio book on pg 45 there is a picture of chromatin. On that picture there is a lot going on, first you can see the DNA in loose strands, then it is wound around histones to form a nucleosome, which forms part of chromatin fiber, which is part of a supercoil within the chromosome, and ultimately leads to chromosome. (or you could look at it the other way and work your way from a chromosome to a double helix.)

Ok, now ask yourself, what is so important about this that they would dedicate 3/4 of a page to a picture of it? Now ask yourself what the hell is happening? Well, DNA is coiling and uncoiling. Ok, why is it coiling and uncoiling? What benefit does that offer DNA? Then think about how it would benifit the DNA to be supercoiled and in a chromosome - it makes it more stable, it's a safer means of cell replication and DNA seperation within the cell, etc. etc. Now ask yourself why the DNA would want to be uncoiled? How about for replication. Now think ok, if the DNA has to be uncoiled for replication, but coiled for cell replication what stages of mitosis are you going to find each type of DNA density? S phase would most likely be? Yep, uncoiled for synthesis. And during M phase the DNA would most likely be? Yep, supercoiled.

This was just a quick and dirty example and something you are probably familiar with, but I used it to illustrate a point. You must be thinking about what you're reading, otherwise it is meaningless and you will forget it as soon as you turn the page. Synthesize new material into old material you already know. How does it relate? What is a real world example? Or just plain, what the hell are they talking about (this is when you pull up your trusty friend google).

Start doing this now and see how it works for you. But do yourself a favor and push back your exam. It's not worth it to just roll in there and take it if you're not ready for it. It can make a retake twice as stressful.

Good luck though, man. You can get those scores up, but be realistic with yourself.

Here is a great quote for you:

"Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result"

-- Albert Einstein


Thanks so much! I really needed someone to tell me what you told me. I think I've been just lying to myself and knew it all along... just didn't want to admit it to myself. But after hearing it bluntly from you, it reallllly opened my eyes. So, I thank you because it means a lot to me.

I will most definately push my MCAT back until the last date in September, or maybe even possibly wait one year to apply and take the MCAT in January 2010. Even though I already paid for the application and everything, you are right that retaking an MCAT is probably more than twice as stressful.

I think you just saved my mentality. I can go on and on and on to thank you. But I think you realized how much a help you are. Again, thank you. 🙂


-EDIT- I have all the 2006 Kaplan books too (didn't look at them yet), are those okay? Or do you highly recommend BR for all topics?
 
Thank you!!! I'm going to try it out and try to study for 10 hours per day. Then I'll take an AAMC practice... and figure out if I need to reschedule or not. 🙂

10 hours is probably a waste of time. I can sometimes get in the zone and rip off 4-5 hours, but even sitting in lecture for 4 hours has become difficult. I'd be willing to wager you'd hit a law of diminishing returns after 3-4 hours where you simply aren't going to learn any more.

Push your date back, and try a little trick I developed during second year. Sit down and start doing questions, but take the first month (say you have three) and don't care about getting the question wrong. That's right- if you blow a question, don't care at this point.

However, go through and figure out why the correct answer is right. Figure out why the wrong answer is wrong. Figure out what keywords and key points are present in the question stem to make it A instead of B-E. Take your lumps over getting a 37%, but have as your goal walking away from each question knowing WHY.

Try that, and you'll improve. You may not be ready this September, but you may. Go and see what you have under the hood.
 
Once you are done with content review, try taking a practice AAMC test. Those EK tests are harder in my opinion (EK bio atleast). You have no numbers until you take a AAMC test so I wouldn't worry about it. Come back and tell us how much you improved after taking an AAMC test. =D
Good luck~
 
I've been having the same problem. I know the info but continue to make silly mistakes. I go over the answers to see why I get them wrong but I'm still not seeing any improvements. One of the other threads suggested writing down why I got the answer wrong in a color code format. Seems pretty time consuming and I'm def pressed for time. Does anyone have any suggestions???? Thanks in advance!
 
Hey Can I Have Food-

Studying 10 hrs a day is rough...go for quality over quantity. EFFICIENT studying; maybe 4 hrs spread out where you are very focused. I think anything over 6 hrs a day is overkill, however some people seem to be able to hammer out more.
 
I would also strongly recommend using something other than EK for your studying. I have been using Berkeley Review and they are amazing. I wouldn't be getting very good scores if it weren't for BR. I initially tried with EK, but they assume you know too much ahead of time. BR walks you through the basics in an easy to follow manner. Not that it makes studying easy, but it makes it easier to understand what you do and don't know as you are going along. BR is also very good about pointing out important concepts.
I cannot agree w/ this more. Honestly, I felt dumb w/ ek. I'd put all I had into a lecture, take the in class exam, and then freak out. I threw the book on my patio when I did the genes exam.

Tbr breaks it down. Ppl complain about the bio being too detailed, but I need that! They also hit the important stuff and explain it well.

I still use ek for bio and gen chem, but as a strict supplement to tbr and my textbook lol...
 
-EDIT- I have all the 2006 Kaplan books too (didn't look at them yet), are those okay? Or do you highly recommend BR for all topics?
Lol I have kaplan, ek, textbooks, and tbr. I have a bit of a compulsive hoarding issue, lol...

But more important than my various ocd related issues is my answer to your question: YES!!!! TBR is seriously my lifesaver. I can't imagine studying w/out it now that I've used it.

To be fair tho, I think ek 1001 is just as helpful and essential as tbr.

Personally, I consider my college textbooks essential, but most ppl don't.

I was in the same boat as you, believe me. It's frustrating and it gets old really quick to study so hard and then suck @ fl's. I've learned it's about studying smart, not hard: "maximum efficiency, minimum effort."

I was a psych and political science major (i.e. Not a whole lot of science background). Plus, I graduated a while ago, and was taking mostly politcs classes @ the end, so I feel like I'm STILL doing content review sometimes! I make sure to do enough questions tho... Here's what works for me:
1.Textbooks+wikipedia (seriously) for content review. For bio, I will say the ek book is really great for condensing the important info, so I use that w/ my bio textbook. I printed out the list of aamc topics, taped a topic (say, the respitory system) to one blank piece of paper. I try to condense my notes onto a single page so I stick w/ the minimal amount of content, since the mcat isn't about obscure details. To use the resp system as an example, here's what I put on a single pg:
-Order of anatomy
-Inhale/exhale (diaphragm contracts, etc)
-resp acidosis, etc (I ripped that info from this thread: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=222780)
-main diseases the mcat would test(emphysema, what happens if you're stabbed, etc)
-leave a little space for tidbits you learned from questions...I use the back of the pg a lot for this too tho.

I find trying to reduce it to the essentials is extremely helpful. I used to overload on peripheral info and lose focus. Plus, I'd be so frustrated when I'd get q's wrong bc I'd try to know too much!

2. Ek 1001 to drill home the concept.

3. Tbr passages- if you search my stats for posts I've done, I post a lot on how I re-take tbr passages repeatedly. Not to boast on a superior technique, mind you, but I don't feel like typing it all out again lol...so, look @ my posts if you're so inclined.

4. Gold standard+aamc fl's:again, I re-take the aamcs to make sure I'm learning the stuff. I space them out, and I haven't found that I remember it enough to think "oh, it's A"...

I started getting the high scores I envied in other sdn'ers when I did this stuff. to me, the mcat is about having enough tenacity to stick w/ it even when I feel like a total dumb ass...especially compared to most of the ppl on here (sheesh...39 on some of the aamc's?! Are you kidding me?!)

And then, after sticking w/ my routine, I got a 37 on an aamc. I literally did an irish heel kick jig and my dogs started getting all excited lol...the takeaway here is that if I can do it (I was getting 4's/low 20's) then you can too. 🙂
 
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