How Long Should I study in Campus to Get Straight A's?

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I am planning on studying hard and having a nearly perfect GPA. I know it is a lot of hard work and sacrifice. I will be volunteering 10 hours a week at a local hospital. I will also take 17 credits in Seminar course, which has four credits, Principles of Chemistry(no lab), Ecological Biology, Psychology, and a writing class( 1 credit).

I am not the party type of person, so social life is not that big of an issue for me. Considering all of the points I mentioned, how long do you think studying per day is enough to pull off a straight A?

And I would highly appreciate it if you mention studying methods for Biology, Psychology, and Chemistry. 🙂

Thanks in advance!
 
I don’t think it is possible to tell you how long or hard you need to study to attain all A’s. That being said, I am happy to provide you with some study tips. Biology is rogue memorization at the end of the day as biology is mostly definition based. For psychology, I would watch videos and figure out how the theories apply to life. For example, how does Darwin’s Heiratchy of Needs apply to your personal life? For chemistry, from general chem all the way through organic, I found I learned best by doing tons of practice problems.
 
I don’t think it is possible to tell you how long or hard you need to study to attain all A’s. That being said, I am happy to provide you with some study tips. Biology is rogue memorization at the end of the day as biology is mostly definition based. For psychology, I would watch videos and figure out how the theories apply to life. For example, how does Darwin’s Heiratchy of Needs apply to your personal life? For chemistry, from general chem all the way through organic, I found I learned best by doing tons of practice problems.
Where did you get all the practice questions you did for Chemistry?

And would you please recommend best books for Eco Bio and Gen Chem?
 
Great advice above^^. Only thing I will add is don't get into the habit of cramming especially with your chemistry and physics classes. Do some practice problems every night.
 
Agree that nobody can tell you except you yourself after you test out your classes and how your study habits work out for each of them.

I just wanted to add: please enjoy your undergrad. Studying and all is of course very important, but take care of yourself. Make sure you destress and enjoy the experience as you go, if you go the premed route you're in for the long haul.
 
Where did you get all the practice questions you did for Chemistry?

And would you please recommend best books for Eco Bio and Gen Chem?
For Organic Chem, I used this site: Discordia Organic Chemistry

331 has Orgo 1 problems and 332 has Orgo 2 problems. As for Gen Chem, I just looked up problems on the internet based on what we were studying at the time. I can’t recommend books though, as I never used books (too much money). However, I can recommend Second Language for organic, it helped with some “hard to understand” topics.
 
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Its going to be different for everyone.
I got As in gen chem fairly easily. (Basic concepts chem1/ chem2was more math and practice problems)
I got As in bio although material was super boring flashcards/Anki is powerful here.
I got As in orgo because 1. David klein books, and 2. flashcards helped some
I got As in physics through pure practice problems. BORING
If you can convince yourself to enjoy the classes you will find yourself doing better with little effort.
 
The first mistake you can make as a freshman undergrad is taking too many credits. 17 is bordering on too many. I would recommend starting with 14-15 if you come from a strong HS background (all AP courses in last 2 years, 4-5 on all exams or prep program with good track record) and 12-13 if you have a weaker background (underfunded school, few AP/IB courses).

There is absolutely no reason to take more than 15 credits in your very first semester at university. Do not sabotage yourself. Undergrad (and being a pre-med in general) is a marathon, not a sprint. Don't believe me? Search for the umpteen billion threads on SDN through the years titled something like "OMG tanked first semester, how to recover?", "Will 5 Ws in two semesters hurt me???", "Bad freshman year, is this a good upward trend??". It's better to underestimate your own potential and get straight As than to go hard in the paint your first semester and make straight Bs (or even, gasp, a C!).

My second piece of advice is that "how many hours" is the wrong question to be asking (another generic rule for being a pre-med, if you are asking 'how many hours?' you aren't thinking hard enough about what you should be doing). There are two pieces of ultimately very helpful information you can obtain about a class from the moment it starts: A) the syllabus, and B) advice from people who took the same class with the same professor in the past and did well. The syllabus tells you what the class covers and how grades work, with the latter being far more important. Take professors with more lenient grading policies and opportunities for extra credit, retakes, dropped exams, and finals you can either opt or top out of (i.e. nobody with a grade > 94 needs to take the final, etc.). You can't bomb an exam if you don't take it (think about it). Ask students who did well how they studied and what materials/resources were the most useful for preparing for exams. Every class is different. A lot of the O-Chem resources people swear by on the internet, for example, did bugger-all for me in my class because the focus of the exams was just radically different from what is typical.

My freshman English professor had a saying about coming to a class or event several weeks ahead: "Start walking now!". What he meant is that you should not procrastinate and cram. This is good advice. At the same time, it is incredibly difficult to follow because most 17-18 yr olds are absolutely horrible at time management (I was), undergrad gives you more freedom than youve ever had before in your entire life, and it is entirely possible to leave everything until the very last minute and still do well in undergrad if you're bright enough and like to drink coffee. My number one source of anxiety as a freshman pre-med was feeling that I should always be working. This feeling is ultimately more crippling than motivating. The way to fight it off and get everything done is to plan, plan, plan. Set out the activities you want to accomplish that day, check them off as you go, and when you're done for the day, BE DONE for the day. Go do something else. Yoga, football, browse memes, watch movies, read, hang out with your friends, w,e but have a life.

Finally, when you inevitably bomb an exam (and you will) don't wallow in your own pity about it. Don't spend time worrying about whether or not you deserve to be in uni or if you're a fraud or something (and you will feel that way a lot of the time). Be proactive and use all of the resources at your proposal: classmates, learning center, office hours, the internet. Figure out what you need to do better. Often, all it takes to figure this out is literally asking the professor, "I'm having a hard time doing well on exams even though I feel prepared beforehand. Can you offer any advice on improving?"
 
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The first mistake you can make as a freshman undergrad is taking too many credits. 17 is bordering on too many. I would recommend starting with 14-15 if you come from a strong HS background (all AP courses in last 2 years, 4-5 on all exams or prep program with good track record) and 12-13 if you have a weaker background (underfunded school, few AP/IB courses).

There is absolutely no reason to take more than 15 credits in your very first semester at university. Do not sabotage yourself. Undergrad (and being a pre-med in general) is a marathon, not a sprint. Don't believe me? Search for the umpteen billion threads on SDN through the years titled something like "OMG tanked first semester, how to recover?", "Will 5 Ws in two semesters hurt me???", "Bad freshman year, is this a good upward trend??". It's better to underestimate your own potential and get straight As than to go hard in the paint your first semester and make straight Bs (or even, gasp, a C!).

My second piece of advice is that "how many hours" is the wrong question to be asking (another generic rule for being a pre-med, if you are asking 'how many hours?' you aren't thinking hard enough about what you should be doing). There are two pieces of ultimately very helpful information you can obtain about a class from the moment it starts: A) the syllabus, and B) advice from people who took the same class with the same professor in the past and did well. The syllabus tells you what the class covers and how grades work, with the latter being far more important. Take professors with more lenient grading policies and opportunities for extra credit, retakes, dropped exams, and finals you can either opt or top out of (i.e. nobody with a grade > 94 needs to take the final, etc.). You can't bomb an exam if you don't take it (think about it). Ask students who did well how they studied and what materials/resources were the most useful for preparing for exams. Every class is different. A lot of the O-Chem resources people swear by on the internet, for example, did bugger-all for me in my class because the focus of the exams was just radically different from what is typical.

My freshman English professor had a saying about coming to a class or event several weeks ahead: "Start walking now!". What he meant is that you should not procrastinate and cram. This is good advice. At the same time, it is incredibly difficult to follow because most 17-18 yr olds are absolutely horrible at time management (I was), undergrad gives you more freedom than youve ever had before in your entire life, and it is entirely possible to leave everything until the very last minute and still do well in undergrad if you're bright enough and like to drink coffee. My number one source of anxiety as a freshman pre-med was feeling that I should always be working. This feeling is ultimately more crippling than motivating. The way to fight it off and get everything done is to plan, plan, plan. Set out the activities you want to accomplish that day, check them off as you go, and when you're done for the day, BE DONE for the day. Go do something else. Yoga, football, browse memes, watch movies, read, hang out with your friends, w,e but have a life.

Finally, when you inevitably bomb an exam (and you will) don't wallow in your own pity about it. Don't spend time worrying about whether or not you deserve to be in uni or if you're a fraud or something (and you will feel that way a lot of the time). Be proactive and use all of the resources at your proposal: classmates, learning center, office hours, the internet. Figure out what you need to do better. Often, all it takes to figure this out is literally asking the professor, "I'm having a hard time doing well on exams even though I feel prepared beforehand. Can you offer any advice on improving?"
Thank you so much, sir! It is better to be safe than to be sorry. I believe 14 is something I can manage.
 
Start low and ramp up to your comfort level.
 
Also use ratemyprofessor.com when you're choosing your classes. Not even kidding lol.
 
If you don't bring a sleeping bag to the library you arn't doing it right. This way you can never be outworked and you save a crap ton on housing.
 
Please stop posting nonsense on my thread. Thank you.
 
I am planning on studying hard and having a nearly perfect GPA. I know it is a lot of hard work and sacrifice. I will be volunteering 10 hours a week at a local hospital. I will also take 17 credits in Seminar course, which has four credits, Principles of Chemistry(no lab), Ecological Biology, Psychology, and a writing class( 1 credit).

I am not the party type of person, so social life is not that big of an issue for me. Considering all of the points I mentioned, how long do you think studying per day is enough to pull off a straight A?

And I would highly appreciate it if you mention studying methods for Biology, Psychology, and Chemistry. 🙂

Thanks in advance!

Not possible to accurately give you a number... for me, I was fine with an hour a day, others needed to put in 8-9 hours a day. Instead of putting in a lot of hours and working super super hard (not saying you should not work hard... you definitely should), you should invest some of your time into finding out what style of learning works for you and what doesn't. Experiment with different learning styles. Go to lecture, and when a professor says something is important, that's basically code for this is going to be on the exam. For chem, I'd say do a lot of practice problems (more than what is assigned)... if you can't figure something out, go to office hours and ask questions. Not only will this help you learn, you are also planting seeds for a future letter of rec maybe. I would say reading the chem book is a waste of time (again highly variable depending on your learning style), so instead go based off of your professors slides and just make sure you can do every problem in the book. For bio, I would say straight memorization is not enough... a lot of students I mentored tried memorizing stuff and were shocked when they got C's in certain bio classes. You need to learn the fundamentals, and then understand how to manipulate certain variables and what that does to the entire system. When your professor is lecturing, actively ask yourself, "what can the professor ask about this, and how can the professor manipulate this on a potential exam question?"... when you view the material under from that perspective, you gain a deeper understanding and it also helps you anticipate exam questions... works well for any subject
 
Please stop posting nonsense on my thread. Thank you.
No. These people:
25 hours/day should do the trick

If you don't bring a sleeping bag to the library you arn't doing it right. This way you can never be outworked and you save a crap ton on housing.
were funny and not excessively mean. They are also trying to point out that you are being a neurotic pre-med (something we are all guilty of at times).

And would you please recommend best books for Eco Bio and Gen Chem?
Start with your assigned textbooks, but only if the class truly requires it. There are many courses I did not crack an actual book once and everything was based on lecture. Other courses, all the material was straight from the book or we had practice problems to do from the book. Also use youtube for concepts. Things like Osmosis and Khan Academy are often enlightening.


"how many hours" is the wrong question to be asking
nobody can tell you except you yourself after you test out your classes and how your study habits work out for each of them.

I just wanted to add: please enjoy your undergrad. Studying and all is of course very important, but take care of yourself. Make sure you destress and enjoy the experience as you go, if you go the premed route you're in for the long haul.
Just thought I would add these in my collection of quotes because they are so important they should be emphasized again.
 
Thank you all so much! Keep it coming, please.
 
No joke though at my school I actually saw students with sleeping bags at the library 🤣

But do not, I repeat DO NOT DO THIS!
 
No. These people:


were funny and not excessively mean. They are also trying to point out that you are being a neurotic pre-med (something we are all guilty of at times).


Start with your assigned textbooks, but only if the class truly requires it. There are many courses I did not crack an actual book once and everything was based on lecture. Other courses, all the material was straight from the book or we had practice problems to do from the book. Also use youtube for concepts. Things like Osmosis and Khan Academy are often enlightening.




Just thought I would add these in my collection of quotes because they are so important they should be emphasized again.

I second your comment about text books. I made the stupid mistake of buying them almost every semester and i only ever used a book in a couple of courses. Huge waste of money (even bigger on in med school lol).

Yes, we’ve all been there on the neurotic side. On SDN, just roll with it and let the sarcastic comments slide.
 
I second your comment about text books. I made the stupid mistake of buying them almost every semester and i only ever used a book in a couple of courses. Huge waste of money (even bigger on in med school lol).

Yes, we’ve all been there on the neurotic side. On SDN, just roll with it and let the sarcastic comments slide.
I will not buy any type of book if I do not make sure the teacher uses one.

I guess I will have to suck it up and take the sarcasm like a man🙂

It makes me feel good that ya'll have been on this neurotic side during undergrad.
 
I will not buy any type of book if I do not make sure the teacher uses one.

I guess I will have to suck it up and take the sarcasm like a man🙂

It makes me feel good that ya'll have been on this neurotic side during undergrad.

I just finished MS2 and it hasnt stopped lol
 
I will not buy any type of book if I do not make sure the teacher uses one.

I guess I will have to suck it up and take the sarcasm like a man🙂

It makes me feel good that ya'll have been on this neurotic side during undergrad.

I'm sure most premeds are some scale of neuroticism, especially the ones on SDN lol. Just don't let it consume your life.
 
15-20 hours per test for science/difficult classes worked for me.
For easier classes like gen eds, algebra, trig, etc, I did like 7-10 hours.
 
My advice: live a little.
If you are aiming for top 20, you need to have some personality and some quirky hobbies. Otherwise you are just another cookie cutter applicant.
And that is something that will naturally come by when you are enjoying your life.
 
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