How many candidates do you need to rank?

[ddjamb]

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Hi all,
I have a question for those of you involved in residents recruitment. How many candidates do you usually need to rank to fill all of your positions so you don't go unfilled? I know for the interviews the consensus is 10:1 what about the ranking list?

 

[operaman]

That’s going to vary dramatically by program and field. Even for us it varies from year to year.

For us: interview 40 people to fill 5 slots. Have never gone unfilled or even come close.

At a certain point you have to interview enough so you can select out that handful of people from the already awesome pool who just seem to fit better with our vibe and what we are all about.

 

[ddjamb]

out of the 40, how many will you rank?

 

[fasteddie911]

At my program we interview at that 10:1 ratio and we usually rank everyone unless we really didn't like someone. As far as our match we've barely gone down our list to going down halfway, can vary. Understand that some programs rank according which applicants tell them they're #1 program, so as to not have to go down far on their list and for bragging rights.

 

[AdmiralChz]

At my program we interview at that 10:1 ratio and we usually rank everyone unless we really didn't like someone. As far as our match we've barely gone down our list to going down halfway, can vary. Understand that some programs rank according which applicants tell them they're #1 program, so as to not have to go down far on their list and for bragging rights.

Exactly what we did during training, interviewed 10:1 and probably ranked 2/3 to 3/4 of interviewees.

 

[Psai]

At my program we interview at that 10:1 ratio and we usually rank everyone unless we really didn't like someone. As far as our match we've barely gone down our list to going down halfway, can vary. Understand that some programs rank according which applicants tell them they're #1 program, so as to not have to go down far on their list and for bragging rights.

That makes zero sense. Who cares how far you go down your list, what matters is a good list and nice fit.

 

[Ironheme]

Usually rank everyone except for red flag candidates. Agree with the 10:1 ratio, and ranking around 90%

 

[NGTY1991]

Usually rank everyone except for red flag candidates. Agree with the 10:1 ratio, and ranking around 90%

Red flag in interview or the app? Because the latter seems like a waste of interview day offering interviews to those who already have program perceived red flags

 

[gutonc]

Red flag in interview or the app? Because the latter seems like a waste of interview day offering interviews to those who already have program perceived red flags

Interview day. The app red flags don't get invites.

It's hard to imagine how you can mess up an interview day badly enough to get your app DNR'd...but I've seen it happen multiple times.

 

[LucidSplash]

Interview day. The app red flags don't get invites.

It's hard to imagine how you can mess up an interview day badly enough to get your app DNR'd...but I've seen it happen multiple times.

I’ve seen people not ranked because they were clearly a bad fit for the program based on their goals (candidate, not program) too. One girl who stated, in her interview, she wanted to take 2 years of research in a lab, and be at a place that had a peds Surg fellowship associated with it. She seems nice and smart but neither of those things applied to our program so I couldn’t figure out what she was doing there. I asked her if she was aware that we didn’t have a setup for people to go into the lab and that there was no peds fellowship at that hospital. She said yes and just smiled at me. She had to travel to get there too so I was confused. We didn’t rank her. She would have been desperately unhappy and we’d likely have been looking to fill her spot in a year if she’d somehow matched with us. Points for honesty I guess but seemed like a waste of both her and our time.

But yes usually it’s a “can’t hide the crazy” kind of situation.

 

[operaman]

out of the 40, how many will you rank?

Nearly all unless someone has a big red flag.

This would be a red flag during the interview. Nobody with a red flag on the app gets an interview with us at all. The 40 tend to be pretty stellar applicants and all end up at awesome top programs. We get sent a breakdown each year of where the people we ranked ended up matching and they all do very very well.

 

[atomi]

We interview 30 per spot, seriously. It varies drastically by program and field.

 

[mymembernames]

Do you guys know where we ranked you after the match?

 

[mcl]

Do you guys know where we ranked you after the match?

No

 

[mvenus929]

Do you guys know where we ranked you after the match?

The only thing they might be able to glean is if you matched somewhere else and they dropped below you on their rank list. Then they know you ranked them lower than the place you matched. Could have been one below or 10 below, though, and they’ll never know unless you tell them.

 

[OrthoTraumaMD]

Depends on the year but generally we go about 25 down the list before we match all our spots. But we rank everyone unless they’re horrific. We generally interview about 90 people and rank 75-85 or so.


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[DarkHorizon]

Come from a small ortho program. We interviewed about 15 for 2 spots and ranked 10. Usually got our top two or three, but did go down to five one year.

 

[Shinken]

We typically interview about 10 applicants per spot (4 spots), we end up ranking about 25-30 people. And yes, every year there are a handful of interviewees with great applications, that turn out to be duds on interview day.