How many DOs are taking USMLE Step II CS ?

[Osteojazz]

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Im sure this has been asked before.. but I am planning on applying to allopathic IM residencies and I wanted to know how many of the DOs out there are taking both COMLEX PE and USMLE CS?

I know it depends on the programs if you need to take the USMLE CS as well... because most allopathic programs require USMLE Step 3 and in order to take step 3 you have to take both parts of 2

Is it worth it to take both??

any thoughts??

 

[DrMom]

If you are a DO resident in an MD residency program, you still use the COMLEX as your licensure pathway. You will not be required to take USMLE step 3.

 

[LadyGrey]

There is no reason to take PE and CS. CE & CK, that's a good idea. I'm taking both and CE and CK, to make it easier for allo programs to compare me to other applicants, but I think they can interpret my "pass" on the PE to mean the same thing a "pass" on CS does. Taking both of the fake patient exams is $2000 of crazy.

 

[Terpskins99]

Im sure this has been asked before.. but I am planning on applying to allopathic IM residencies and I wanted to know how many of the DOs out there are taking both COMLEX PE and USMLE CS?

I know it depends on the programs if you need to take the USMLE CS as well... because most allopathic programs require USMLE Step 3 and in order to take step 3 you have to take both parts of 2

Is it worth it to take both??

The only reason to take USMLE Step 2CS and Step 3 as a DO is if you want to get double board-certified.

I don't think it matters, personally. And unless you completely tanked USMLE Step 1, you shouldn't need Step 2CK either. Many allopathic applicants to competitive residencies don't take CK until after they've matched.

 

[Old_Mil]

There's one very good reason to take step 2CS (if you're planning on taking step 2CK) as a DO...that is, upon graduation, this makes you eligible to bypass Comlex 3 and become certified in all but a handful of states on the strength of your USMLE exams.

This means

(1) The day you graduate, no more OMM. Ever.

(2) As a practicing physician, no AOA CME requirements to meet.

You're free at last. As far as the money, think of how much you'll save not paying AOA dues year after year.

 

[climbingdocs]

There's one very good reason to take step 2CS (if you're planning on taking step 2CK) as a DO...that is, upon graduation, this makes you eligible to bypass Comlex 3 and become certified in all but a handful of states on the strength of your USMLE exams.

This means

(1) The day you graduate, no more OMM. Ever.

(2) As a practicing physician, no AOA CME requirements to meet.

You're free at last. As far as the money, think of how much you'll save not paying AOA dues year after year.

for real?? If I take CS I don't need to take comlex????? also, which states are you talking about?

 

[Old_Mil]

for real?? If I take CS I don't need to take comlex????? also, which states are you talking about?

Yes, for real.

*IF* you take USMLE Step 1, USMLE Step 2CS, USMLE Step 2CK, and USMLE 3 that will be enough for certification. Note you'll still have to take Comlex 1, 2, and 2PE to get your degree.

Which states?

Well, I know for a fact that WV, PA, MI, FL, and OK won't do it. Those are the five states that require the osteopathic internship or rule 42 waver so they are out of the question.

The real question comes up with CA, WA, AZ, and OH - states with separate osteopathic boards, but state laws written such that the list of exams required for licensure aren't tied to specific degrees.

 

[oreosandsake]

Yes, for real.

*IF* you take USMLE Step 1, USMLE Step 2CS, USMLE Step 2CK, and USMLE 3 that will be enough for certification. Note you'll still have to take Comlex 1, 2, and 2PE to get your degree.

Which states?

Well, I know for a fact that WV, PA, MI, FL, and OK won't do it. Those are the five states that require the osteopathic internship or rule 42 waver so they are out of the question.

The real question comes up with CA, WA, AZ, and OH - states with separate osteopathic boards, but state laws written such that the list of exams required for licensure aren't tied to specific degrees.

Very very interesting!

is there somewhere online that we can find info regarding this?

 

[Old_Mil]

Very very interesting!

is there somewhere online that we can find info regarding this?

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=517315&highlight=DO+USMLE

 

[Bill_Brasky]

I took it today (errr the 4th). Trying for an MD surgery spot so it was necessary. I recommend taking it, on Step I the differences between the two tests in difficulty (and my scores bore that out) were negligible as long as you boned up on biochem that didn't appear in COMLEX I.

In this test I don't think you'd need to substitute anything, it was all cut and dried. 😎

 

[oreosandsake]

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=517315&highlight=DO+USMLE

thanks.


"doh!" I live in california...

 

[Old_Mil]

thanks.
"doh!" I live in california...

...so get to work on "merger v 2.0". 🙂

 

[lubaDOc]

There's one very good reason to take step 2CS (if you're planning on taking step 2CK) as a DO...that is, upon graduation, this makes you eligible to bypass Comlex 3 and become certified in all but a handful of states on the strength of your USMLE exams.

This means

(1) The day you graduate, no more OMM. Ever.

(2) As a practicing physician, no AOA CME requirements to meet.

You're free at last. As far as the money, think of how much you'll save not paying AOA dues year after year.

If you never want to do OMM should have never attended an osteopathic school

 

[mabish71DO]

If you never want to do OMM should have never attended an osteopathic school

OH please....most people in DO school don't give a damn about OMM. And even more don't use it past their second year in medical school. Face reality.

 

[DOMb]

How about if you want to do an allopathic fellowship, do u need complete the entire USMLE process?