How Much Did You Spend Before Getting Admission To Advanced Standing?

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Hey buddies,i am starting this thread to encourage our colleagues who are still striving to get admission to advanced standing.They are definately spending alot of money right now, and if they know how much we spent that may console them.
please post your expenses.

i applied within a span of 2 years, went to 7 interviews,no acceptance last year, three acceptance this year.
btw exam fees,toefl,ece,wes,travelling to interview,hotel stay,car rental,food,application fee to school, fees for bench tests,deposit for schools i didnt eventually attend, etc i spent $21,000.
i was accepted at penn and had to cough out another $17,000 for the summer program 😱

so buddies, dont be disheartened.most of you ,wont spend as much as me but whatever it is keep on struggling
 
hey u got acceptance to UPenn...well then i think every penny spent was worth it..and sooner or later u will get it back..gud luck..
panchhi.
muberrymolar said:
Hey buddies,i am starting this thread to encourage our colleagues who are still striving to get admission to advanced standing.They are definately spending alot of money right now, and if they know how much we spent that may console them.
please post your expenses.

i applied within a span of 2 years, went to 7 interviews,no acceptance last year, three acceptance this year.
btw exam fees,toefl,ece,wes,travelling to interview,hotel stay,car rental,food,application fee to school, fees for bench tests,deposit for schools i didnt eventually attend, etc i spent $21,000.
i was accepted at penn and had to cough out another $17,000 for the summer program 😱

so buddies, dont be disheartened.most of you ,wont spend as much as me but whatever it is keep on struggling
 
hey muberrymolar,
does it really matter...how much u had to shell out to get into a school?and what do u exactly mean by coughing out $17000 bucks at upenn....what do u expect.....a free admission and free tution? 😕
i agree with panchii,u r at upenn and every penny is worth spending!so...good luck and please stop cribbing!sorry for being too rude.....
muberrymolar said:
Hey buddies,i am starting this thread to encourage our colleagues who are still striving to get admission to advanced standing.They are definately spending alot of money right now, and if they know how much we spent that may console them.
please post your expenses.

i applied within a span of 2 years, went to 7 interviews,no acceptance last year, three acceptance this year.
btw exam fees,toefl,ece,wes,travelling to interview,hotel stay,car rental,food,application fee to school, fees for bench tests,deposit for schools i didnt eventually attend, etc i spent $21,000.
i was accepted at penn and had to cough out another $17,000 for the summer program 😱

so buddies, dont be disheartened.most of you ,wont spend as much as me but whatever it is keep on struggling
 
fido! said:
hey muberrymolar,
does it really matter...how much u had to shell out to get into a school?and what do u exactly mean by coughing out $17000 bucks at upenn....what do u expect.....a free admission and free tution? 😕
i agree with panchii,u r at upenn and every penny is worth spending!so...good luck and please stop cribbing!sorry for being too rude.....

Fido, i dont think you really understood my thread,i am not bitching about the money spent, i definately know that its worth every penny of it.i am sharing my experience to encourage others 'cos, i know that throughout the process of interviewing there were times i was in low spirit and many times it seemed that i was thowing money into a bottomless pit.please people share your experience so that others still in the process will know there is light at the end of the tunnel!
 
muberrymolar said:
..........i was accepted at penn and had to cough out another $17,000 for the summer program 😱............

Hi muberrymolar,

I don't understand the reason and philosophy behind this thread. How much did it cost me to go to dental school in India? How much did it cost me to go for my favorite vacation? How much did it cost my parents to bring me up? You know what, all these are as important figure as the amount spent to get into an advanced standing program in US dental school. At the end of the day everything is another statistics. And all these statistics add up when you go through the hoops of life to get where you want to. Yet I can accept all these frivolous numbers because there are people on this earth who put a price to their dream!!!

What I can't understand and consider ridiculous is your comment about paying $17,000 for UPenn summer program. It's part of the 'cost of attendance' of PASS program. So if you want to pursue the program you have to 'cough up' that amount. All of us have to 'cough up' the cost of education to pursue the AS program. Yet I haven't come across a comment such as your in any forum of SDN. Do you think that UPenn is extorting you? What did you expect, a free ride?

rahmed
 
muberrymolar said:
Hey buddies,i am starting this thread to encourage our colleagues who are still striving to get admission to advanced standing.They are definately spending alot of money right now, and if they know how much we spent that may console them.
please post your expenses.

i applied within a span of 2 years, went to 7 interviews,no acceptance last year, three acceptance this year.
btw exam fees,toefl,ece,wes,travelling to interview,hotel stay,car rental,food,application fee to school, fees for bench tests,deposit for schools i didnt eventually attend, etc i spent $21,000.
i was accepted at penn and had to cough out another $17,000 for the summer program 😱

so buddies, dont be disheartened.most of you ,wont spend as much as me but whatever it is keep on struggling



hey,
I do not agree with u completely.
Yes !,it is absolutely true that we spend a huge amount on applications, travels,hotels , exams( n it does get frustating at times when u receive a rejection from a university)...But,dont u feel its worth it when what u receive at the end is AMERICAN DENTAL DEGREE.
I believe that dentistry is not only a career option but a passion for most of us .Its this passion which drives our interest in pursuing our profession in this country further inspite of the various difficulties.
N securing a position at a prestigous school makes all WORTH it!!Im sure u too must be proud to be a part of Upenn
still,i feel ur post was misunderstood by few 🙁
 
Hey c'mon guys, give him a break.. he wasn't complaining.... he was just sharing his info. I think he meant to say that what ever we (still applying) spend, it's all worth it. He was just sharing info. Read between the lines.... 🙂
 
g3k said:
Hey c'mon guys, give him a break.. he wasn't complaining.... he was just sharing his info. I think he meant to say that what ever we (still applying) spend, it's all worth it. He was just sharing info. Read between the lines.... 🙂


I´m with you!!
 
Hi,
I will have to make this really brief since I have an Tx to go to, but I am hoping to still get into medical school. I applied twice, taken the MCAT 3 times, and need to take again because the score were ridiculously horrible. My earlier sciences in college were bad, however the grades got progressively better throughout colllege. I have an MPH in Epidemiology, but I don't think that will help me any with the admissions process. I am DYING to get into medical school, however, I need to revamp my sciences. How would schools feel if I took some of the courses I needed over (Gen Chem, Biochem) online? The lab portions of those classes were seperate from the lecture portion in college, so I have great lab grades, but I need to redo the lecture part of the courses. I really have a difficult time fitting a class schedule into my routine because I work full-time, and also volunteer so my schedule is full! Do you think schools would also look at my undergraduate and graduate coursework, as well as any other science class I may take, even if it is upper level and online?
Any help would be appreciated, I am at my wits end.... 🙁
 
Hey Muberry.

I side with g3k here ... I don't know why everyone is picking on your thread ... Murberry is just trying to "vent" out a little bit !
You know, I too have been where you are now, and have felt the same frustration. I can't remember exactly how much I spent, but I think it was something like;

-$1,000 in application fees over a period of 2 years.
-Factoring in the exams and transcript evaluations just seems a little bit unreasonable, but for the sake of the discussion I would say it roughly amounted to another $1,000.
-About $700/interview (none of my interviews were local, so that would include airfare/car rental, hotel and everything).
-$5,500 as and acceptance/enrollment deposit ($1,000 first deposit and $4,520 for the second one) !

Man, why did you have to remind me ... 😀 I was almost over it ! :meanie:

I also know what you mean by "coughing" up the summer fund for UPENN. It is kind of strange that you have to pay it out of your pocket, upfront, since financial aid and student loans do not cover it ... you are not alone ! I know several people struggling to pay that amount (unless your uncle is rich) on such a short notice. I don't care what anyone says, $17,000 is still a truck load of money !
---> NB: The $17,000 summer program at UPENN which Muberry is referring to IS NOT part of the tuition (COA) ! It is a partial "fee" which UPENN students are expected to pay in full/cash prior to matriculation in order to attend the summer program starting April. And to make it worse, neither financial aid nor student loans will pay for it (UPENN will not certify it).

Anyways, as other posters noted ... it is all worth it ! Now get a calculator and start figuring out how much money you will make once you graduate !!
Hint: http://www.ada.org/ada/prod/survey/faq.asp

Good Luck !
 
Dr.iz-n said:
Hi,
I will have to make this really brief since I have an Tx to go to, but I am hoping to still get into medical school. I applied twice, taken the MCAT 3 times, and need to take again because the score were ridiculously horrible. My earlier sciences in college were bad, however the grades got progressively better throughout colllege. I have an MPH in Epidemiology, but I don't think that will help me any with the admissions process. I am DYING to get into medical school, however, I need to revamp my sciences. How would schools feel if I took some of the courses I needed over (Gen Chem, Biochem) online? The lab portions of those classes were seperate from the lecture portion in college, so I have great lab grades, but I need to redo the lecture part of the courses. I really have a difficult time fitting a class schedule into my routine because I work full-time, and also volunteer so my schedule is full! Do you think schools would also look at my undergraduate and graduate coursework, as well as any other science class I may take, even if it is upper level and online?
Any help would be appreciated, I am at my wits end.... 🙁

Hey Dr.iz-n
You have totally posted your queries in the wrong forum. This is the "International Dental Forum". Therefore, the people in here would not be able to help you out. You need to post the above in either the "Pre-Allopathic (MD)" or 'Pre-Osteopathic (DO)" forum and I'm sure someone there will be able to help you with your situation. Good luck.
 
hIi I THINK THIS IS A VERY Encouraging thread,especially to those who feel lost or disheartend.i think the point he was trying to make was that dont worry on how much u spend now,eventually it will be worth it.for eg. i know some of us who hire a nanny to watch their kids so they can read for the exam.or stuff like that.
 
everybody relax, mulberry molar wasnt cribbing, just bringing up some facts,which are true, UPENN asks for a whopping 17 k for the summer program, which doesnt hurt considering that u r getting an american dental degree, what hurts is that you have to make a down payment, you cant take a loan for it.........which really would suck!!
the money involved in applying to schools n going for interviews is no less ,can hurt those who dunt hav a sound financial base.i can understand.but there is no way out,we hav to apply in the max number of schools to hav a better chance,and once we get the degree then its a good life ahead!!
for a change i see NILEBDS very understanding.........if nilebds can understand u mulberrymolar, you better be right!!thanks for understanding nile that people need ot vent out sometimes(one person i am scared of on this forum!!) :scared: :scared:
 
godbless said:
thanks for understanding nile that people need ot vent out sometimes(one person i am scared of on this forum!!) :scared: :scared:

Okay, Sherif (Nile) what did you do to godbless that lead her to be scared of you, man?...Shame on you.....I'm only kidding. :laugh: :meanie: Come on, godbless, there is absolutely no need for you to feel this way about him. As far as I understand, he was only trying to help you and other people out at that time, although he may have come across as being quite assertive about his points. However, again he was only trying to help you guys out. Too bad, the two of you didn't agree, and that's okay...no harm done 😀 . So no need to have that feeling. Chill out. We've got enough stress in our lives so far; no need to add in anymore, right? 😀 Take care.
 
I think this thread is for someone who is all by him/her self in the country and works for a living and has to survive and also shed a whole lot of money on the process of applications,interviews etc.etc.unlike others who have earning spouses. I know how difficult it is for someone who has to earn a living and save money for the applications and interview cos I am in the same boat.no interview costs less than $400-500.so I think this is a very very sensible thread and I am all for it. 👍
 
godbless said:
everybody relax, mulberry molar wasnt cribbing, just bringing up some facts,which are true, UPENN asks for a whopping 17 k for the summer program, which doesnt hurt considering that u r getting an american dental degree, what hurts is that you have to make a down payment, you cant take a loan for it.........which really would suck!!
the money involved in applying to schools n going for interviews is no less ,can hurt those who dunt hav a sound financial base.i can understand.but there is no way out,we hav to apply in the max number of schools to hav a better chance,and once we get the degree then its a good life ahead!!
for a change i see NILEBDS very understanding.........if nilebds can understand u mulberrymolar, you better be right!!thanks for understanding nile that people need ot vent out sometimes(one person i am scared of on this forum!!) :scared: :scared:
😀 Nile is always nice.... 🙂
 
tiyakapoor said:
I think this thread is for someone who is all by him/her self in the country and works for a living and has to survive and also shed a whole lot of money on the process of applications,interviews etc.etc.unlike others who have earning spouses. I know how difficult it is for someone who has to earn a living and save money for the applications and interview cos I am in the same boat.no interview costs less than $400-500.so I think this is a very very sensible thread and I am all for it. 👍


i TOTALLY second what tiyakapoor has said. it is TOUGH [and i mean TOUGHHH!] when you are all by yourself in the country and managing ALL your finances yourself [unlike others who have spouses earning for them].
but the end thought is not for anyone to get discouraged. you ARE spending money in the correct path [even if its for interviews at schools you didnt get accepted to]. to gain some you have to lose some. and money is a thing that comes and goes. cant keep holding on to it. so all the new applicants and the ones still trying, dont sweat about the money too much. carry on with it and one day u'll hit it on the right spot :laugh:
 
Hey Muberrymolar,

I have spent about $22, 000 over the last 2 and a half years going to over 10 schools (including canadian schools like University of Manitoba that charge $1250.00 just to attend the interview and dexterity exam) for interviews and sending countless ECEs, Toefls, NB results and for those of u reading it was worth every penny to finally be accepted into a DMD program. The purpose of this thread is to encourage other people who are applying to still apply even though some applications look very costly. I often have people who say I won't apply to certain school because there are only 5 seats and $250 to apply (like U of M in Canada) BUT u never know what may be and u just might get one of those seats. I know some people who only spent like $1000 and applied to only one school and still got in . . . but then on the other side of the spectrum there are people like myself and muberry who have "left no stone unturned" and no credit card uncharged in the pursuit of an "american DMD" and it is soooooo worth it so please don't let the cost of application fees be a hinderence to applying. I'm not venting, i'm very glad to be at penn but i think this thread lets people know what to expect when the new application cycle starts and they have to start shelling out some serious cash for application fees. So Keep on trying! If I could do it so can u!!

Cheers,
Flosser
 
count me too...i am also on my own, working,f1 student paying for my own expenses..blah ....blah ....blah...but no regrets.Very encouraging thread.
tiyakapoor said:
I think this thread is for someone who is all by him/her self in the country and works for a living and has to survive and also shed a whole lot of money on the process of applications,interviews etc.etc.unlike others who have earning spouses. I know how difficult it is for someone who has to earn a living and save money for the applications and interview cos I am in the same boat.no interview costs less than $400-500.so I think this is a very very sensible thread and I am all for it. 👍
 
The bottom line is - if you love your profession, then every penny spent is money wisely spent. Remember this is the profession for the rest of your life and you will earn much more in return.
 
My post is not really about the worth of an AMERICAN DENTAL DEGEE.i believe anyone in the application cycle already knows and will not need a lecture on this.
Remember it when you finally get an admission letter that it finally becomes "Worth it" so i think it is good service to encourage people still in the process.
During my first application cycle i spent like $10k with no admission,same me,no new exams or anything extraordinary (just a couple of more grey hair 😀 )and this application cycle i had 3 admissions.At the begining of the application it was really depressing to start shelling out money again and i know a word of encouragement from someone that has gone through it would have helped.Thats why i started this thread as this new application cycle is starting to encourage fellow SDNers.

Rahmed,
much as i have great respect for you especially for your many useful posts which i have personally benefitted from ,i beg to differ on you position on this issue.UPENN is my dream school,i do not feel i am getting ripped.i feel i would get a good education here thats why i chose it even after droping deposits for 2 other schools.
the fact that the 17k is worth every penny of it does not make it easier to raise,i mentioned it not because i am ranting but becasue its could be a huge factor,2 very very bright candidates that i know were accepted to penn this year couldnt raise the 17k,one of them couldnt because he has used all his line of credit for application/interviewing.it may sound weired but it is easier to pay 160k for A.S through student loans than paying 17k out of pocket!
so for some of us that dont have much means it is actually "coughin it up"
no one is complaining about how much A.S costs we all know it is worth it.

NB
no offence meant to anyone,but please rather than sending me PM's on how much you spent why not just post it here so others can benefit!

doc12 said:
hey,
I do not agree with u completely.
Yes !,it is absolutely true that we spend a huge amount on applications, travels,hotels , exams( n it does get frustating at times when u receive a rejection from a university)...But,dont u feel its worth it when what u receive at the end is AMERICAN DENTAL DEGREE.
I believe that dentistry is not only a career option but a passion for most of us .Its this passion which drives our interest in pursuing our profession in this country further inspite of the various difficulties.
N securing a position at a prestigous school makes all WORTH it!!Im sure u too must be proud to be a part of Upenn
still,i feel ur post was misunderstood by few 🙁
 
godbless said:
for a change i see NILEBDS very understanding.........if nilebds can understand u mulberrymolar, you better be right!!thanks for understanding nile that people need ot vent out sometimes(one person i am scared of on this forum!!) :scared: :scared:
I am sorry that you feel that way about me Godbless.
There is nothing I can change about "me" that will make "you" perceive others in a more positive way.
I am not here to intimidate anyone. All I am trying to accomplish (and will continue to do so) is to help others out with the sometimes frustrating and elusive journey to Advanced standing.
Good Luck.
 
😳
cheer_up said:
Okay, Sherif (Nile) what did you do to godbless that lead her to be scared of you, man?...Shame on you.....I'm only kidding. :laugh: :meanie: Come on, godbless, there is absolutely no need for you to feel this way about him. As far as I understand, he was only trying to help you and other people out at that time, although he may have come across as being quite assertive about his points. However, again he was only trying to help you guys out. Too bad, the two of you didn't agree, and that's okay...no harm done 😀 . So no need to have that feeling. Chill out. We've got enough stress in our lives so far; no need to add in anymore, right? 😀 Take care.
 
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