• Funniest Story on the Job Contest Starts Now!

    Contest starts now and ends September 27th. Winner will receive a special user banner and $10 Amazon Gift card!

    JOIN NOW
  • Site Updates Coming Next Week

    Site updates are coming next week on Monday and Friday. Click the button below to learn more!

    LEARN MORE

How much free time do/did you have during psychiatry residency?

nebuchadnezzarII

CALI born and raised.
5+ Year Member
Mar 25, 2015
420
447
166
America
  1. Resident [Any Field]
Hi everyone, thank you for reading this post. I am starting intern year in a month in psychiatry and wanted to get a good sense of if I will have time to pursue my hobbies.

For PGY-1, schedule seems to be 8-5 with evening call q6. Medicine months is q4 call. No overnights overall. PGY-2 is better, PGY-3 is completely outpatient, PGY-4 is no call. I think it's pretty average in terms of psychiatry programs, but I wanted to get the perspective of people who are living through it or have lived through it. Thanks.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 user

BiscoDisco

Full Member
Mar 21, 2019
159
104
31
  1. Resident [Any Field]
Medicine will be terrible. Just plan for that.

As far as intern year goes, definitely had time to do things. You'll quickly see how much different being a psych intern is from being a medicine or surgery intern.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 user

myPsychAlt

mailing bobcats
10+ Year Member
Jan 5, 2011
198
121
266
Hi everyone, thank you for reading this post. I am starting intern year in a month in psychiatry and wanted to get a good sense of if I will have time to pursue my hobbies.

For PGY-1, schedule seems to be 8-5 with evening call q6. Medicine months is q4 call. No overnights overall. PGY-2 is better, PGY-3 is completely outpatient, PGY-4 is no call. I think it's pretty average in terms of psychiatry programs, but I wanted to get the perspective of people who are living through it or have lived through it. Thanks.

So wait, who's covering weekends/nights at your program then?
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 user
About the Ads

Celexa

Full Member
2+ Year Member
Oct 15, 2017
148
283
116
  1. Resident [Any Field]
Hi everyone, thank you for reading this post. I am starting intern year in a month in psychiatry and wanted to get a good sense of if I will have time to pursue my hobbies.

For PGY-1, schedule seems to be 8-5 with evening call q6. Medicine months is q4 call. No overnights overall. PGY-2 is better, PGY-3 is completely outpatient, PGY-4 is no call. I think it's pretty average in terms of psychiatry programs, but I wanted to get the perspective of people who are living through it or have lived through it. Thanks.
Only your seniors in your program can give you any useful information. Call schedule is only part of how tired or busy you will be. As important is how many patients you carry on a service, how good your ancillary support is, and whether call shifts involve sleeping 90% of the time or nonstop work. Strangers on the internet don't know these variables for your institution.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 3 users

Monocles

Full Member
10+ Year Member
Feb 6, 2011
1,100
735
266
Boston, MA
  1. Attending Physician
Largely depends on your program and how efficient you are. I tended to be on the faster end so I always left on time and never brought work home. However I do remember pgy-1 year being the busiest by far.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 user

nebuchadnezzarII

CALI born and raised.
5+ Year Member
Mar 25, 2015
420
447
166
America
  1. Resident [Any Field]
Thanks guys. I realize the futility of the question as being specific to my program. I guess I wanted a general sense of how you felt on average. Of course, it varies by program, but I do feel more comfortable knowing the experiences of others. I can't always get the raw truth from program seniors like I can get on an anonymous message board. I appreciate all your answers!
 

Bartelby

Full Member
10+ Year Member
Mar 15, 2007
1,473
1,052
276
  1. Attending Physician
I would say PGY-1 medicine clocked in close to 80 hours/week. Neurology more like 60 (and no neuro call shifts). My other rotations were typically anywhere from 40 hours on the light side to 60 hours on the heavier side, plus some overnight psychiatry call (I think typically 2x/month).

PGY-2 I worked maybe 50 hours per week on average in daytime rotations, but had call overnight or 24-hour weekend call about once a week. There was also some night float time, that is about 14 hours per day either five or six days per week (I forget). Basically you stay up all night and sleep all day, don't expect to get much done otherwise.

PGY-3 it came down to much closer to 40 hours/week though with call every two weeks (overnight or 24-hour)

PGY-4 I worked a real 40 hour week at a pretty relaxed pace, and took only pretty easy from-home call.

I also spent time outside of work hours reading about relevant topics and writing up papers. I don't have a great sense of the amount of time spent on that, but basically that falls into how I chose to spend free time.

I think my program was on the heavier workload side, but some require more. It's been a while at this point so I may be mixing up the details.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 user

Stagg737

Full Member
7+ Year Member
Jul 2, 2013
9,278
11,780
226
Decapod 10
  1. Resident [Any Field]
At my program I'm averaging 50-55hrs/week through the first 2 years. That's including 4 months of medicine where I averaged 65-70 hours per week. I also tend to be one of the slower people in my program and spend more time at work as I take a chunk out of each day to teach med students when they're there and do some reading on my own. It also depends heavily on the rotation. Some of our VA rotations are very light and ~40 hour work weeks aren't uncommon, while other rotations can be rougher (consults) and end up being 60+ hours. My program allows for plenty of time for hobbies on most rotations though. We only have overnight call during the week during 2nd year, so I'd say it's the roughest in terms of time commitment. I have 3-5 overnight calls per month and 0-2 weekend call days depending on the rotation. Next month I have 3 overnights and a 24-hr weekend call day.

PGY3 and 4 only take call if they want to for extra pay to cover our private units. Otherwise they're just back-up call (I've called my back-up person a total of 2 times). 3rd and 4th year seem pretty consistent across most programs, so it's really just first two years you need to ask about in-depth.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 users

milesed

Full Member
7+ Year Member
Jun 25, 2011
396
164
216
  1. Attending Physician
I trained in 1996-2001.
My 1st year- about 80-100hr/week and psyc call was worse than IM or Neuro.
2nd year- closer to 40/wk plus call which was every 8th night= 44h/week average
3rd year- about 30/wk and had the ability to moonlight 1 day/week at CMHC which I HIGHLY recommend. You will see lots more patients and really develop skills rapidly. Call was 1/20 days for the program and no call for moonlighting.
4th year- same as third and was also a 1st year C/A fellow
5th year- I continued the C/A fellowship and could have gotten by working only 3 day a week, moonlighting 2. I worked one 10 hour day a week moonlighting and worked about 25 hours for the program (call was 3rd line and I was never called). I also was moonlighting on every holiday I had off and many Saturdays at CMHC. I tripled my residency pay doing this my 5th year and the 3 years of part-time moonlighting equaled about 1 year of full-time work. On day 1 of my first real job I was way ahead of those who didn't moonlight. I loved the work and didn't mind the extra hours and pay at all.
 
About the Ads
This thread is more than 1 year old.

Your message may be considered spam for the following reasons:

  1. Your new thread title is very short, and likely is unhelpful.
  2. Your reply is very short and likely does not add anything to the thread.
  3. Your reply is very long and likely does not add anything to the thread.
  4. It is very likely that it does not need any further discussion and thus bumping it serves no purpose.
  5. Your message is mostly quotes or spoilers.
  6. Your reply has occurred very quickly after a previous reply and likely does not add anything to the thread.
  7. This thread is locked.