How much is it to send a transcript to each medical school?

[Shalom12345]

I normally attend College X, and for one summer I decided to take Physics at College Y. A day after the midterm I dropped the course at College Y (I was a visiting student at College Y. This was the only time I ever took a course at College Y).

Anyways, turns out the policy for withdrawals at College Y is very stringent, and apparently dropping a course the day after the midterm was not soon enough and a W was listed. I am now applying to Medical School, and REALLY want to avoid sending and spending the money to send a single transcript with a W (so no credit received) to each of the 35 medical schools I apply to. Its financially ridiculous, and also unnecessary. I spoke to AMCAS, and they said that this W from College Y must be reported to AMCAS, and the only way to go around this is by appealing to College Y for them to remove the W off my transcript. (Then I would have no record from College Y). I actually appealed to College Y to do this, but I have been unsuccessful but plan to continue trying.

-How much is it to send each transcript to medical school?
-Is AMCAS really telling the truth? I really have to report a single W to them from a school I was a visiting student at? If I do not include it, they will notify me, type of thing?

I am trying my best to appeal to delete the W but I don't know that it will happen. I just think its going to be so much money for me to send it to each school, and for what? A single W? Thats nuts.

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[Heday]

You only need to send one transcript from each institution you attended to AAMC (for your AMCAS).

The cost of sending a transcript varies from school to school. Ask the institution's registrar.

Edit: I'm so confused as to why you think you have to send every transcript to every medical school you apply.

 

[Shalom12345]

Don't you think its a little ridiculous for them to receive a transcript from an outside institution with a stupid W?

Also I assume when I interview the medical schools will have hard copies of all my transcripts. So one of the hard copies will be a sheet with a stupid W?

Is there any way out of this?

 

[CharmanderMD]

I don't see the issue here. A lot of schools don't even have a fee to send your transcript. And, as previously mentioned, you only have to send ONE transcript to amcas so you won't have to pay the fee 35 times.

 

[Shalom12345]

Because it will then make me having a total of 5 transcripts. I was trying to avoid that.

And when the 5th one is a stupid W from a course I was enrolled in for 2 weeks, I find that to be incredibly annoying.

 

[OneTwoThreeFour]

Don't you think its a little ridiculous for them to receive a transcript from an outside institution with a stupid W?

Also I assume when I interview the medical schools will have hard copies of all my transcripts. So one of the hard copies will be a sheet with a stupid W?

Is there any way out of this?

Probably gonna be like, 20 dollars. AKA the LEAST expensive part of this process.

 

[Shalom12345]

Probably gonna be like, 20 dollars. AKA the LEAST expensive part of this process.

It is more the fact that the irrelevant W will now amount me to a student with 5 transcripts. I do not want that.

 

[Ismet]

It is more the fact that the irrelevant W will now amount me to a student with 5 transcripts. I do not want that.

This is not up for discussion. Point blank, you need to submit the transcript, even if it's just one course with a W. You can complain all you want that it's a hassle or it's stupid, but at the end of the day, if you want to go to med school, you have to do it.

 

[Shalom12345]

This is not up for discussion. Point blank, you need to submit the transcript, even if it's just one course with a W. You can complain all you want that it's a hassle or it's stupid, but at the end of the day, if you want to go to med school, you have to do it.

Unless I successfully appeal to the school to delete it off my record

 

[theseeker4]

This is not up for discussion. Point blank, you need to submit the transcript, even if it's just one course with a W. You can complain all you want that it's a hassle or it's stupid, but at the end of the day, if you want to go to med school, you have to do it.

This.

Why are you so bent out of shape about this, OP? It is not a major expense, a single W on a transcript will not have a meaningful impact on your application or your chances, and there are HUGE downsides if you try to hide that you ever attended that school. I don't see why this is such a big deal to you, unless you have something like an IA at that school you aren't mentioning, that you obviously would love the opportunity to hide......

 

[Shalom12345]

This.

Why are you so bent out of shape about this, OP? It is not a major expense, a single W on a transcript will not have a meaningful impact on your application or your chances, and there are HUGE downsides if you try to hide that you ever attended that school. I don't see why this is such a big deal to you, unless you have something like an IA at that school you aren't mentioning, that you obviously would love the opportunity to hide......

Whats an IA? No, I really just do not want to apply with 5 transcripts! It is obviously not the BIGGEST deal, but its something I was trying to avoid. thats all.

 

[theseeker4]

Whats an IA? No, I really just do not want to apply with 5 transcripts! It is obviously not the BIGGEST deal, but its something I was trying to avoid. thats all.

IA stands for institutional action, which is some infraction committed where the school took some action against a student, often for cheating which is a nearly-universal application-killer. Really, there is no point in expending energy to avoid 5 transcripts, no medical school will care how many you have. It will be much less of a headache to simply send the transcript.

 

[Shalom12345]

IA stands for institutional action, which is some infraction committed where the school took some action against a student, often for cheating which is a nearly-universal application-killer. Really, there is no point in expending energy to avoid 5 transcripts, no medical school will care how many you have. It will be much less of a headache to simply send the transcript.

Objectively its better to have less. They want to see consistency and that you were at fewer institutions rather than more
But ya, wtvr, the conversation is really over. I'm gonna try to get the W away so it doesn't need to be sent, but if not, not.

 

[Ismet]

Unless I successfully appeal to the school to delete it off my record

By the time you appeal, the appeal is reviewed, and the meaningless W is removed (if it's removed at all), you will be a late applicant and you're just shooting yourself in the foot at that point.

 

[Aerus]

They want to see consistency and that you were at fewer institutions rather than more

What? Why does this matter? Everyone wants to see less paper work, but no one is going to care that you had 5 transcripts vs 4...

 

[Ismet]

They want to see consistency and that you were at fewer institutions rather than more

As a committee member at my school, I can tell you that this is not a mentality that admissions committees have.

 

[Shalom12345]

Ya I know...

Summer courses are also fairly easy to explain as to why the course did not work out.

For me, it was more just having as few red flags as possible...as few questions asked on an interview as possible... so I was hoping I wouldn't need to include it with the rest of my transcripts.

Again, not the biggest deal. But thats where I am coming from.

 

[amad01]

relax OP... i had 1 class from a school i took in highschool... paid $5 and sent to amcas... got over it in about 3.2 seconds

 

[Shalom12345]

relax OP... i had 1 class from a school i took in highschool... paid $5 and sent to amcas... got over it in about 3.2 seconds

I hear. Ya still gonna see if I can get rid of it, but ya I know it is not the end of the world

 

[familyaerospace]

Let's see, the cost of a transcript. Hmmm.... my most expensive was $5 from my grad school. As they said, it goes to AMCAS. They'll send a copy to everyone.

Now if you are accepted and you have to send all your transcripts to all the schools you are accepted to (assuming you were accepted to all 35), well that is different but I am sure if that situation was to occur you could just pick your favourite few schools and send it to them.

For the record, I've been a student at 6 schools over 16 years and they have 5 transcripts, one is not required by AMCAS as it was overseas.

 

[amad01]

I hear. Ya still gonna see if I can get rid of it, but ya I know it is not the end of the world

Why? Let it go... Are you trying to screw yourself over? You are already endangering yourself with an application that isn't as early as it should be.... messing with a W will only hurt you more.

 

[Jepstein30]

I normally attend College X, and for one summer I decided to take Physics at College Y. A day after the midterm I dropped the course at College Y (I was a visiting student at College Y. This was the only time I ever took a course at College Y).

Anyways, turns out the policy for withdrawals at College Y is very stringent, and apparently dropping a course the day after the midterm was not soon enough and a W was listed. I am now applying to Medical School, and REALLY want to avoid sending and spending the money to send a single transcript with a W (so no credit received) to each of the 35 medical schools I apply to. Its financially ridiculous, and also unnecessary. I spoke to AMCAS, and they said that this W from College Y must be reported to AMCAS, and the only way to go around this is by appealing to College Y for them to remove the W off my transcript. (Then I would have no record from College Y). I actually appealed to College Y to do this, but I have been unsuccessful but plan to continue trying.

-How much is it to send each transcript to medical school?
-Is AMCAS really telling the truth? I really have to report a single W to them from a school I was a visiting student at? If I do not include it, they will notify me, type of thing?

I am trying my best to appeal to delete the W but I don't know that it will happen. I just think its going to be so much money for me to send it to each school, and for what? A single W? Thats nuts.

You should review the application process, it doesn't sound like you really know how it works. You don't need to send transcripts to schools directly.. in fact, they won't even want or look at them if you do.

College Y decides how much it is to send a transcript. Sometimes, the first few are free. It varies by school.

AMCAS won't notify you if you leave it out. What will happen, however.. is if/when you gain acceptance somewhere, the school will run your name through the National Student Clearinghouse database. This will inform them of every school you have a record of attending (including College Y). When the school sees you violated AMCAS procedures by not reporting your attendance of College Y, it is up to them as to how to proceed. I'd think it would be an automatic withdrawal of their acceptance offer regardless of circumstances given it's clearly stated that you must report all academic classes.

Don't you think its a little ridiculous for them to receive a transcript from an outside institution with a stupid W?

Also I assume when I interview the medical schools will have hard copies of all my transcripts. So one of the hard copies will be a sheet with a stupid W?

Is there any way out of this?

No? They don't really care..

They won't have a hard copy of your transcript. They will have AMCAS. This will include a record of all your classes.. so there will be a single line with the class from College Y and the associated grade.

It is more the fact that the irrelevant W will now amount me to a student with 5 transcripts. I do not want that.

Who cares? There's no rule that X amount of transcripts makes one ineligible for medical school. Again, schools will likely not even realize you attended 5 different institutions.. let alone care that you did. Some may ask you to explain withdrawals.. and you can do so however you wish (simply stating you wanted to take the course at your home institution would suffice).

Unless I successfully appeal to the school to delete it off my record

Likely way too late for that. The fact that your transcripts aren't in yet is also pretty scary given it will take at least a month for AMCAS to process them.. so you won't be able to submit for verification until late July.. meaning no verification or secondaries until early September. That's not a great start to an application cycle.

What I really recommend doing is getting that transcript sent ASAP and submit as soon/before it gets there. On top of that, you should hit the "print PDF" of your application so you can see EXACTLY what medical school admissions officers see. This way you can have a better idea of how things are presented on AMCAS and what actually matters. The number of transcripts do not.

 

[Shalom12345]

I am not applying this cycle.

Yes, I will include it if the W is still there by the time I am applying. Funny, I did not even realize that I technically attended College Y, until I sat down and thought about it and called them to see if I had a record over there. I guess it is good then that I even investigated the matter because otherwise, like you said, it would look like I was violating a policy.

 

[Heday]

Don't you think its a little ridiculous for them to receive a transcript from an outside institution with a stupid W?

Also I assume when I interview the medical schools will have hard copies of all my transcripts. So one of the hard copies will be a sheet with a stupid W?

Is there any way out of this?

All institution are technically "outside." No I don't think it's ridiculous. No they will most likely have soft copies of your transcript. The cost of the secondaries could not possibly pay for the printing, interviews, storage, etc of each individual's application (at most schools any how). Considering some schools have blind interviewers as well, I doubt it would include "a sheet with a stupid W," but rather a summary (akin to your AMCAS) with pertinent information.

If any adcoms want to comment on what is actually given to an open-file interviewer, that would be helpful.

Also assume-ing makes an ass of our u and me. That is all.

 

[SPionic]

What's wrong with having 5 transcripts? Is this looked down upon?
I earned my undergrad degree entirely from one institution (no transfers), but I have 7 transcripts because of HS dual enrollment, 1-off classes to prepare me for other coursework, and fulfilling my prereqs at 2 schools as a nontrad. It cost me about $80 to get all of my transcripts sent in, including sending one of them twice.

 

[Ismet]

If any adcoms want to comment on what is actually given to an open-file interviewer, that would be helpful.

Depends on the school. At my school, faculty interviewers can see all of your essays and work/activities, but they cannot see your grades or MCAT score.

 

[Plecopotamus]

getting this worked up over something so trivial is far more of a "red flag" than any W or having more transcripts (which is completely a non-issue).

If this is not just behavior disinhibited by internet anonymity, LORs, PS, & interviews are much more of a concern.

 

[el_duderino]

Even if it gets deleted off your record, you need to list the course on AMCAS.

When entering coursework, you must include information and corresponding grades for
every course in which you have ever enrolled at any U.S., U.S. Territorial, or Canadian postsecondary
institution, regardless of whether credit was earned.

This includes, but is not limited to:
 All attempts at courses that have been repeated, which includes any courses
removed from your transcript or GPA as a result of academic bankruptcy or
institutional forgiveness policies.
 Courses removed from your transcripts or GPA as a result of academic bankruptcy,
forgiveness, or similar institutional policies.
 Courses from which you withdrew.
 Courses for which you received a grade of "Incomplete" and for which no final
grade has been assigned.
 Courses that you failed, regardless of whether they have been repeated.
 Remedial/developmental courses.
 College-level courses you took while in high school even if they were not counted
toward a degree by any college.
 Courses taken at an American college overseas.
 Physical Education and Music courses
 M.D. and Foreign M.D. Courses

As for transcript exemptions, there is a comprehensive list of possible reasons, and none of them fit this situation at all.

Send the transcript and quit complaining.

 

[NickNaylor]

What's wrong with having 5 transcripts? Is this looked down upon?
I earned my undergrad degree entirely from one institution (no transfers), but I have 7 transcripts because of HS dual enrollment, 1-off classes to prepare me for other coursework, and fulfilling my prereqs at 2 schools as a nontrad. It cost me about $80 to get all of my transcripts sent in, including sending one of them twice.

No one is going to care that you're sending in a bunch of transcripts, though in the absence of actual reasons for doing so (e.g., dual credit in HS, summer work at home institutions, study abroad experiences, etc.) you will likely be asked about it since it's somewhat unusual.

 

[mehc012]

Even if it gets deleted off your record, you need to list the course on AMCAS.

When entering coursework, you must include information and corresponding grades for
every course in which you have ever enrolled at any U.S., U.S. Territorial, or Canadian postsecondary
institution, regardless of whether credit was earned.

This includes, but is not limited to:
 All attempts at courses that have been repeated, which includes any courses
removed from your transcript or GPA as a result of academic bankruptcy or
institutional forgiveness policies.
 Courses removed from your transcripts or GPA as a result of academic bankruptcy,
forgiveness, or similar institutional policies.
 Courses from which you withdrew.
 Courses for which you received a grade of "Incomplete" and for which no final
grade has been assigned.
 Courses that you failed, regardless of whether they have been repeated.
 Remedial/developmental courses.
 College-level courses you took while in high school even if they were not counted
toward a degree by any college.
 Courses taken at an American college overseas.
 Physical Education and Music courses
 M.D. and Foreign M.D. Courses

As for transcript exemptions, there is a comprehensive list of possible reasons, and none of them fit this situation at all.

Send the transcript and quit complaining.

Ooohh, that'll be an interesting factoid to remember the next time one of those "can I go Carib/DO and then apply MD again next year without telling them I'm in med school already" threads pops up!

 

[DocPhysician]

You should review the application process, it doesn't sound like you really know how it works. You don't need to send transcripts to schools directly.. in fact, they won't even want or look at them if you do.

College Y decides how much it is to send a transcript. Sometimes, the first few are free. It varies by school.

AMCAS won't notify you if you leave it out. What will happen, however.. is if/when you gain acceptance somewhere, the school will run your name through the National Student Clearinghouse database. This will inform them of every school you have a record of attending (including College Y). When the school sees you violated AMCAS procedures by not reporting your attendance of College Y, it is up to them as to how to proceed. I'd think it would be an automatic withdrawal of their acceptance offer regardless of circumstances given it's clearly stated that you must report all academic classes.



No? They don't really care..

They won't have a hard copy of your transcript. They will have AMCAS. This will include a record of all your classes.. so there will be a single line with the class from College Y and the associated grade.



Who cares? There's no rule that X amount of transcripts makes one ineligible for medical school. Again, schools will likely not even realize you attended 5 different institutions.. let alone care that you did. Some may ask you to explain withdrawals.. and you can do so however you wish (simply stating you wanted to take the course at your home institution would suffice).



Likely way too late for that. The fact that your transcripts aren't in yet is also pretty scary given it will take at least a month for AMCAS to process them.. so you won't be able to submit for verification until late July.. meaning no verification or secondaries until early September. That's not a great start to an application cycle.

What I really recommend doing is getting that transcript sent ASAP and submit as soon/before it gets there. On top of that, you should hit the "print PDF" of your application so you can see EXACTLY what medical school admissions officers see. This way you can have a better idea of how things are presented on AMCAS and what actually matters. The number of transcripts do not.

You have a lot of good Points. But I just thought I should ask you a few questions since you have already been through the process.
From your comment, I am getting the impression that you didn't have to submit a final transcript to a medical school upon your acceptance.
Don't some medical schools need your final transcripts to make sure you have graduated and have all your courses done? Since most pre-meds apply at the end of their junior year, medial school admit them with the assumption that accepted students will complete everything before matriculation, and they would definitely need proof wouldn't they?
Now, if you get admitted to a medical school that is already under the state's school system that also includes your undergraduate institution , it may not require transcripts because it can automatically get it from the school system and proof of your graduation will also be available to them. The other scenario would be I think if you applied after you graduated and wasn't involved in kind of schooling after your application, in which case you have nothing new to report.
Was your case any of the above two? If then it makes sense. Otherwise, I would say that each medical schools have different requirements because I know some medical schools (for example Loma Linda) require you to send all transcripts from all schools upon acceptance. Thanks

 

[DocPhysician]

Let's see, the cost of a transcript. Hmmm.... my most expensive was $5 from my grad school. As they said, it goes to AMCAS. They'll send a copy to everyone.

Now if you are accepted and you have to send all your transcripts to all the schools you are accepted to (assuming you were accepted to all 35), well that is different but I am sure if that situation was to occur you could just pick your favourite few schools and send it to them.

For the record, I've been a student at 6 schools over 16 years and they have 5 transcripts, one is not required by AMCAS as it was overseas.

So, I agree with your reasoning. I have a similar situation with yours when I comes to attending multiple number of institutions including one foreign institution. My transcripts from the foreign institution wasn't required by AMCAS and I was able to turn in my application without it. My question is, If we get accepted do you think medical schools are going to require the foreign transcripts or just the one from degree granting institution?
was you credits transferred to US institution?
Thank you.

 

[Jepstein30]

You have a lot of good Points. But I just thought I should ask you a few questions since you have already been through the process.
From your comment, I am getting the impression that you didn't have to submit a final transcript to a medical school upon your acceptance.
Don't some medical schools need your final transcripts to make sure you have graduated and have all your courses done? Since most pre-meds apply at the end of their junior year, medial school admit them with the assumption that accepted students will complete everything before matriculation, and they would definitely need proof wouldn't they?
Now, if you get admitted to a medical school that is already under the state's school system that also includes your undergraduate institution , it may not require transcripts because it can automatically get it from the school system and proof of your graduation will also be available to them. The other scenario would be I think if you applied after you graduated and wasn't involved in kind of schooling after your application, in which case you have nothing new to report.
Was your case any of the above two? If then it makes sense. Otherwise, I would say that each medical schools have different requirements because I know some medical schools (for example Loma Linda) require you to send all transcripts from all schools upon acceptance. Thanks

That's not what this thread was about.. it was about sending transcripts to schools you were APPLYING to. That's not how it works, you just send your transcript to AMCAS and they distribute it.

You only matriculate at ONE school. That school may or may not require you send a transcript indicating you finished your degree. It varies.. some schools don't even require you to have a BS/BA (i.e. have graduated college).

If you have a lot of different transcripts, they may require you to send a copy from each of them.. but again, that's only to the school you will be matriculating to. Not everywhere.. AMCAS takes care of that.

 

[DocPhysician]

That's not what this thread was about.. it was about sending transcripts to schools you were APPLYING to. That's not how it works, you just send your transcript to AMCAS and they distribute it.

You only matriculate at ONE school. That school may or may not require you send a transcript indicating you finished your degree. It varies.. some schools don't even require you to have a BS/BA (i.e. have graduated college).

If you have a lot of different transcripts, they may require you to send a copy from each of them.. but again, that's only to the school you will be matriculating to. Not everywhere.. AMCAS takes care of that.

Can you please mention one school that does not require transcripts after acceptance or matriculation?
BZW, I don't believe we have to create new thread for every single topic. That is why it is called a forum; you clear things as you discuss as long as it stays with in the same issue. I just asked you a question based on your own comment, and it is not like I asked something totally different. I have been through the application process, I just didn't know what it is going to be after acceptance.
FYI, AMCAS doesn't distribute your transcripts, they distribute you grades along with almost all of your the application info.

 

[Jepstein30]

Can you please mention one school that does not require transcripts after acceptance or matriculation?
BZW, I don't believe we have to create new thread for every single topic. That is why it is called a forum; you clear things as you discuss as long as it stays with in the same issue. I just asked you a question based on your own comment, and it is not like I asked something totally different. I have been through the application process, I just didn't know what it is going to be after acceptance.
FYI, AMCAS doesn't distribute your transcripts, they distribute you grades along with almost all of your the application info.

Look it up yourself. They exist. I personally had to submit a transcript from my final year of college. I know other people who didn't submit any at all (at my school, nonetheless). Even so, what exactly is your point here? So let's say they don't exist and every school requires transcripts.. does that really change anything? will you suddenly not bother graduating college because you don't need to? let's just stop a few credits short. Are you going to only apply to those schools? It's something that shouldn't even be a concern..

Anyways, since I think I know what you're asking about (based on a thread I see you are now browsing), don't try and hide old transcripts. It won't work. There is a National Student Clearinghouse that keeps track of everywhere a student has enrolled. Every school you want to matriculate to will run your name and it will come back with EVERY school you attended. Whether or not that specific school requires you to send transcripts is irrelevant as its a discrepancy that will easily be caught when compared to your AMCAS. Your AMCAS lists every school you attended.. if one is missing, you're in trouble. Even if there's no ill will.. it's your responsibility and the school can easily use it as a reason to terminate an acceptance.

If you have a specific issue that you want to ask about, PM me and I can offer advice based on what I know about the application process. Otherwise, I'd recommend approaching your pre-med advisers (if you have any.. if not, try and contact a school directly) and laying it out. It's a problem that could keep you out of medical school.. especially if you pursue the application process and are later inevitably caught. That's not something that's going to be easy to explain away on future application cycles that ask you about prior acceptances to medical school.

 

[DocPhysician]

Look it up yourself. They exist. I personally had to submit a transcript from my final year of college. I know other people who didn't submit any at all (at my school, nonetheless). Even so, what exactly is your point here? So let's say they don't exist and every school requires transcripts.. does that really change anything? will you suddenly not bother graduating college because you don't need to? let's just stop a few credits short. Are you going to only apply to those schools? It's something that shouldn't even be a concern..

Anyways, since I think I know what you're asking about (based on a thread I see you are now browsing), don't try and hide old transcripts. It won't work. There is a National Student Clearinghouse that keeps track of everywhere a student has enrolled. Every school you want to matriculate to will run your name and it will come back with EVERY school you attended. Whether or not that specific school requires you to send transcripts is irrelevant as its a discrepancy that will easily be caught when compared to your AMCAS. Your AMCAS lists every school you attended.. if one is missing, you're in trouble. Even if there's no ill will.. it's your responsibility and the school can easily use it as a reason to terminate an acceptance.

If you have a specific issue that you want to ask about, PM me and I can offer advice based on what I know about the application process. Otherwise, I'd recommend approaching your pre-med advisers (if you have any.. if not, try and contact a school directly) and laying it out. It's a problem that could keep you out of medical school.. especially if you pursue the application process and are later inevitably caught. That's not something that's going to be easy to explain away on future application cycles that ask you about prior acceptances to medical school.

I think you are very far from what my question is. It is funny because the thread you are talking about showed up as I was just searching schools that do not require foreign transcripts after acceptance. all of a sudden I am now a liar? I have already listed one foreign institution I attended long time ago on my AMCAS application. The Transcript wasn't required by AMCAS because it was independent foreign institution(transcript waived). What I am worried about is that I get accepted later and be asked to turn in the foreign transcript. How am I going to hide this if I already listed it on my AMCAS application? When I listed the school I knew it will be very hard for me to obtain the transcript since the school is located in underdeveloped country (home country) trust me I literally have go there and manually process the transcript.....No technology . But I did list it because I didn't want to lie though I know there is no way of tracking the record. If I had lied, I wouldn't be asking this question at all, would I? I feel like you should have asked me before coming up with all this conclusion. My question was simple and I was just trying drive my own conclusion from the thread. All I needed to know is .......do all medical school require all transcripts after acceptance? If so I should start acting now. Thanks.

 

[Jepstein30]

Who is calling you a liar? Calm down. The thread you were visiting when I clicked on your name was about hiding transcripts. Not sure where I came to a conclusion about anything.. I was offering advice related to your line of questioning.

How did AMCAS treat your situation? I'm assuming they required you to send a transcript in and you were able to? If so, you should be okay. Once you're accepted, it should be easier to work with a school around your unique problem. I'd try and get a transcript if you can.. odds are, your school will require one. However, given AMCAS has verified your grades from that copy.. a school that WANTS you to matriculate should be willing to work with you. It's not something you need to worry about now if it's not something you can get done. After you get accepted, inform the school of your situation and ask them how to proceed.

Most of the final transcript stuff is to confirm you a) graduated and b) didn't completely bomb the semester. In your scenario, neither rely on that transcript since you're not currently enrolled in that school. Combine that with it being a foreign school.. I can't really see med schools caring all that much.

 

[DocPhysician]

Who is calling you a liar? Calm down. The thread you were visiting when I clicked on your name was about hiding transcripts. Not sure where I came to a conclusion about anything.. I was offering advice related to your line of questioning.

How did AMCAS treat your situation? I'm assuming they required you to send a transcript in and you were able to? If so, you should be okay. Once you're accepted, it should be easier to work with a school around your unique problem. I'd try and get a transcript if you can.. odds are, your school will require one. However, given AMCAS has verified your grades from that copy.. a school that WANTS you to matriculate should be willing to work with you. It's not something you need to worry about now if it's not something you can get done. After you get accepted, inform the school of your situation and ask them how to proceed.

Most of the final transcript stuff is to confirm you a) graduated and b) didn't completely bomb the semester. In your scenario, neither rely on that transcript since you're not currently enrolled in that school. Combine that with it being a foreign school.. I can't really see med schools caring all that much.

Okay I hope I will explain my self clearly this time. I understand that you may not be familiar with this kind of situation but....When it comes to foreign transcripts......it is all different complicated game. You see, AMCAS did not require the foreign transcripts. I was verified with out the foreign transcript. I was only required to list the name of the foreign institution and I did that. No grades were entered, no courses were listed. That is the way it works with my situation.
Basically school need your educational documents to fully admit you..If I get accepted, turning those transcripts will be a HUGE problem for me but the grades are not going to affect me in no way because they were not even required for the application to start with. That is why if I can just find a medical school that can say " hey, you are accepted, we will need all your transcripts from the schools in the US, but we will not need a transcript from foreign institution 'z' you listed on your AMCAS", it will be easy for me. It is not as easy as you think. I emailed a couple of school about those issues and they don't even seem to care about my issue. The worst case scenario for me would be looking at couple more years delay to tackle the problem.

 

[AspiringERMD]

Whats an IA? No, I really just do not want to apply with 5 transcripts! It is obviously not the BIGGEST deal, but its something I was trying to avoid. thats all.

I applied with 5 transcripts. I have four IIs so far and it hasn't come up once.

 

[Jepstein30]

Okay I hope I will explain my self clearly this time. I understand that you may not be familiar with this kind of situation but....When it comes to foreign transcripts......it is all different complicated game. You see, AMCAS did not require the foreign transcripts. I was verified with out the foreign transcript. I was only required to list the name of the foreign institution and I did that. No grades were entered, no courses were listed. That is the way it works with my situation.
Basically school need your educational documents to fully admit you..If I get accepted, turning those transcripts will be a HUGE problem for me but the grades are not going to affect me in no way because they were not even required for the application to start with. That is why if I can just find a medical school that can say " hey, you are accepted, we will need all your transcripts from the schools in the US, but we will not need a transcript from foreign institution 'z' you listed on your AMCAS", it will be easy for me. It is not as easy as you think. I emailed a couple of school about those issues and they don't even seem to care about my issue. The worst case scenario for me would be looking at couple more years delay to tackle the problem.

If AMCAS didn't care, they aren't likely to care either. Again, they don't want your transcripts to verify grades themselves.. they already have AMCAS for that. They ask for them to verify you graduated (which often occurs post-AMCAS) and so they can see the coursework you completed post-AMCAS. Neither are issues here..

My school didn't ask me to supply transcripts from every school. They asked for the one I graduated from and was currently enrolled in. Many schools are like this. Schools like Loma Linda are the exception, not the rule. They don't want to be inundated with transcripts from students they have already decided to accept. I'm not sure what 'a' school that has a certain policy will do for you since the odds of gaining acceptance at that specific school (rather than in general) aren't good.

I'd have to believe you'll be perfectly okay but if you really want to make sure, go into the school-specific forum. Find the schools you applied (or are planning to apply there) and ask there if the school requires ALL or just your final transcript. A current student who knows the actual policy of that school will be more than happy to help you. It's something you can send a polite email to ADCOMs explaining in more detail post-interview/acceptance. Quite frankly, they aren't likely to care until you have at least started the application process with that school.. and maybe not even until they've reciprocated interest via an interview/acceptance. Unless the school is obtuse, I cannot believe they would turn away a student they WANT to attend to the school just because they don't have a transcript from a foreign school.

 

[DocPhysician]

Okay.

 

[DocPhysician]

If AMCAS didn't care, they aren't likely to care either. Again, they don't want your transcripts to verify grades themselves.. they already have AMCAS for that. They ask for them to verify you graduated (which often occurs post-AMCAS) and so they can see the coursework you completed post-AMCAS. Neither are issues here..

My school didn't ask me to supply transcripts from every school. They asked for the one I graduated from and was currently enrolled in. Many schools are like this. Schools like Loma Linda are the exception, not the rule. They don't want to be inundated with transcripts from students they have already decided to accept. I'm not sure what 'a' school that has a certain policy will do for you since the odds of gaining acceptance at that specific school (rather than in general) aren't good.

I'd have to believe you'll be perfectly okay but if you really want to make sure, go into the school-specific forum. Find the schools you applied (or are planning to apply there) and ask there if the school requires ALL or just your final transcript. A current student who knows the actual policy of that school will be more than happy to help you. It's something you can send a polite email to ADCOMs explaining in more detail post-interview/acceptance. Quite frankly, they aren't likely to care until you have at least started the application process with that school.. and maybe not even until they've reciprocated interest via an interview/acceptance. Unless the school is obtuse, I cannot believe they would turn away a student they WANT to attend to the school just because they don't have a transcript from a foreign school.

Okay, I will keep digging like you said. Thanks for taking the time, and I will probably shoot you PM in the future.

 

[DocPhysician]

I applied with 5 transcripts. I have four IIs so far and it hasn't come up once.

Oh I am sure that is true. No one asked me that for my secondary apps either. The questions is whether you will be asked after acceptance or not.

 

[el_duderino]

What's the plan here? Only apply to schools that won't ask for your transcripts upon acceptance?

 

[DocPhysician]

What's the plan here? Only apply to schools that won't ask for your transcripts upon acceptance?

The Plan is to only apply to the schools that don't ask for foreign transcripts that were already waived for me (not required) by AMCAS...I have no problem of submitting my US transcripts including the one from degree granting Institution.

 

[el_duderino]

The Plan is to only apply to the schools that don't ask for foreign transcripts that were already waived for me (not required) by AMCAS...I have no problem of submitting my US transcripts including the one from degree granting Institution.

Why would that be such an issue for you?

 

[Jepstein30]

Why would that be such an issue for you?

Because he has a foreign transcript that was waived by AMCAS that he is unable to obtain?? It's pretty simple.. if a school absolutely requires it, he won't be able to comply.

I don't think it will be an issue but it's not something that I wouldn't be completely worry-free about.

 

[DocPhysician]

Because he has a foreign transcript that was waived by AMCAS that he is unable to obtain?? It's pretty simple.. if a school absolutely requires it, he won't be able to comply.

I don't think it will be an issue but it's not something that I wouldn't be completely worry-free about.

If it wasn't for the change that MCAT is undergoing, I would just say, 'What a heck!, I would just take few years gap, go back home take care of everything and apply when I am ready'. But now If I do that, I might have to take the new MCAT, do the whole process all over.

I am sure it is going to come up on an interview if I get one. I have listed the school on my application so there is no way they are just ignore asking me about it. We will see how it goes. I hope it is not an issue.

 

[Jepstein30]

If it wasn't for the change that MCAT is undergoing, I would just say, 'What a heck!, I would just take few years gap, go back home take care of everything and apply when I am ready'. But now If I do that, I might have to take the new MCAT, do the whole process all over.

I am sure it is going to come up on an interview if I get one. I have listed the school on my application so there is no way they are just ignore asking me about it. We will see how it goes. I hope it is not an issue.

You likely won't be asked about it. Interviewers don't really tear your application apart looking for red flags. They'll probe about obvious ones they see but they don't really dig.

It might come up because I'm assuming you either grew up there or spent some time in college there.. so it may have other obvious connections in your application (i.e. in an EC or in a secondary question). You may be asked about your time there but they won't be grilling you about the classes you took, the grades you received and how the professors were. They'll just ask about your time there to try and learn more about you. It's important to realize that at most places.. by extending you an interview invite, the school more or less believes you are capable academically to succeed in medical school. The interview is to learn about you non-academically.. which is tough via an application.

It's even possible your interview is even closed file and they won't know about the school at all.